Community Shootaround

Community Shootaround: NBA Coverage Trends

Sep. 10: Yesterday we asked hoops fans to tell us what NBA storylines they grew tired of hearing about over the summer as well as what items they felt may have flown under the radar. Not surprisingly, the Knicks came up as one of the teams most heavily discussed.

Between the ongoing Carmelo Anthony saga, controversy surrounding Kristaps Porzingis and the eventual dismissal of Phil Jackson, New York has been as much a part of the public’s consciousness this summer as any.

In contrast, a few teams that quietly did work this offseason were the Kings and Hornets. Will Sacramento’s shrewd draft and Charlotte’s gamble to bring Dwight Howard back under the tutelage of a former coach equate to noticeable improvements in 2017/18? It’s hard to imagine otherwise.

Yesterday I wrote that I’d pull from our own Hoops Rumors database to get a handle on some of the coverage trends that we’ve relayed over the summer.

As expected, the Knicks were the team that we covered the most over the course of the period ranging from the day after the NBA draft up until yesterday. Following the Knicks were the Cavaliers and, as one reader suspected, the Celtics. Rounding out the top five were the Clippers and Rockets.

Of the top five all but the Knicks made significant roster moves and, of course, two of those moves were blockbuster trades involving another team in the top five.

For science, here are the teams ranked 1-30.

  1. Knicks
  2. Cavaliers
  3. Celtics
  4. Clippers
  5. Rockets
  6. Timberwolves
  7. Lakers
  8. Heat
  9. Kings
  10. Pacers
  11. Mavs
  12. Bucks
  13. Hawks
  14. Warriors
  15. Jazz
  16. Nuggets
  17. Nets/Thunder/Pelicans
  18. Pistons
  19. Suns/Bulls/Wizards
  20. Sixers
  21. Raptors
  22. Spurs
  23. Hornets
  24. Magic
  25. Grizzlies
  26. Trail Blazers

Sep. 9: The NBA offseason can be a fascinating thing, this summer especially considering all of the blockbuster moves that went down. Inevitably, however, the excitement of the rookie draft and the ensuing start of the league’s free agency period gives way to the doldrums of August and September.

Now that the whirlwind of player movement has started to slow down, it’s a good time to reflect back on the weeks that were, as well as on the coverage that surrounded them.

We here at Hoops Rumors pride ourselves on being a repository of NBA news, earth shattering or trivial, whether that means bringing context to the Kyrie Irving trade mere minutes after news broke or updating minor storylines that few outside of a niche group would ever find particularly riveting.

As such, the archive of Hoops Rumors stories serves as comprehensive database of all headline-worthy items big and small that transpired over the course of the summer, an analogue of the highs and lows of the NBA news cycle.

Our question to you, on this quiet Saturday night in September, is what teams did you grow tired of hearing about this offseason? What teams did you feel flew under the radar of the hoops community at large?

We’ve compiled a list of the teams that pinged our radar the most over the offseason and, generally speaking, it’s not hard to guess which teams got the most coverage. There were some items that the NBA media wrote about ad nauseum while others barely caused a ripple.

Before we unveil specifically what teams took up the most real estate in our pages, however, we figured we’d field a bonus question to see if our community could guess which teams we talked about the most this summer and which teams we talked about the least.

Weigh in below!

Community Shootaround: Lottery Reform

The NBA Competition Committee is considering a change to the current lottery system, as we passed along on Thursday, and the proposed terms of the new system include:

  • Teams would be able to drop four spots in the lottery. Currently teams can drop no more than three spots.
  • The three worst teams would have equal probabilities of landing the first pick.
  • The odds for those three worst teams would be flattened, closing the gap between their odds of landing the top pick and the subsequent teams’ odds of landing the top pick.

The reform would help to discourage tanking, something that commissioner Adam Silver would like to accomplish. The committee may vote on the proposal prior to the upcoming season and if it gains support, there could be a new system in place as soon as the 2018 draft, though it’s more likely that any changes are phased in over time.

That leads us to tonight’s topic: Should the NBA make these changes to the lottery or does the current system work for the league? Are there other alternatives to the latest proposal that would be better for the NBA?

Let us know your thoughts in the comment section below. We look forward to what you have to say!

Community Shootaround: Western Darkhorse

Earlier today we asked readers to weigh in on who they thought might be capable of contending with the Celtics and Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference. This time around, we’d like to hear who could emerge as a serious threat to win the Western Conference ahead of Kevin Durant and the Warriors.

Currently pegged by Vegas as 4/11 favorites to win the West, the Warriors are head and shoulders above their closest peers. That’s not so surprising considering that earlier this week we asked readers whether they thought the club would exceed the 67.5 win-threshold that NBA oddsmakers had set for them.

A whopping 54% said Over!

Sure the Warriors have won 67, 73 and 67 games over the course of the last three years, respectively, but it’s worth pointing out that a 68-win campaign would put them in a tie with the 1967 Sixers for the fifth most wins of all time.

Appreciating the historical context of what the Warriors have done and truly recognizing the consensus that says Golden State will once again put forth a blisteringly dominant campaign, who of the remaining Western Conference clubs could possibly top them in a seven-game series?

Will the addition of Chris Paul push the Rockets into the conversation? Can the Spurs strike gold again after falling short the past few seasons? Could an upstart like the Timberwolves or Nuggets catch them sleeping in a second-round battle?

You tell us in the comments below.

Community Shootaround: Eastern Darkhorse

Well before their stunning blockbuster trade, the Cavaliers and Celtics were considered the top two teams in the Eastern Conference. Nothing has changed in that regard, despite some major pieces swapping uniforms. It’s generally assumed we’ll see LeBron James, Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder squaring off against Al Horford, Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward in the Eastern Conference Finals next spring.

A majority of the other teams are in the conference have either plunged into rebuild mode or are simply trying to show significant improvement following frequent trips to the lottery. Only a precious few seem capable of pulling a surprise and preventing another Cavs-Celtics matchup in the conference finals.

That group includes the Raptors, who shelled out big bucks this summer to retain their top free agents, Kyle Lowry and Serge Ibaka. The supporting cast seems a little weaker since Toronto shed some salary (DeMarre Carroll, Cory Joseph) to keep the trio of Lowry, Ibaka and DeMar DeRozan intact. But the core group from a 51-win season remain intact.

The Wizards’ offseason had a similar feel as they needed to make Otto Porter their highest-paid player for the next two seasons by matching an offer sheet from the Nets. Then they locked up John Wall with a max extension, ensuring that the trio of Wall, Porter and Bradley Beal will continue their efforts to climb the Eastern Conference ladder in the near future.

The Bucks and Heat, who overcame major injuries last season to finish around the .500 mark, could also make a leap into major contention. In particular, Milwaukee might be poised for a big run led by Giannis Antetokounmpo, especially if Jabari Parker can provide a second-half boost after recovering from his latest knee injury.

This leads us to our question of the day: Which Eastern team has the best chance of knocking out either the Cavaliers or Celtics in next year’s playoffs and reaching the conference finals?

Please take to the comments section to share your thoughts on this topic. We look forward to what you have to say.

Community Shootaround: The Importance Of Derrick Rose

Isaiah Thomas‘ hip injury has cast doubts on when he will be able to contribute to the Cavaliers this upcoming season. LeBron James and head coach Tyronn Lue reportedly “cooled” on the acquisition of Thomas after learning that he may miss the start of the regular season and possibly be out until after the All-Star break, according to The Ringer’s Kevin O’Connor.

Thomas himself has a more positive outlook. Speaking to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski before the Celtics and Cavaliers completed their blockbuster trade, Thomas proclaimed he is “not damaged” and promised he would return to last year’s form — where he averaged an Eastern Conference-best 28.9 PPG.

“There’s never been an indication that I wouldn’t be back, and there’s never been an indication that this is something messing up my career,” he said. Maybe I am not going to be back as soon this season as everyone wants me to be, but I’m going to be back, and I’m going to be the same player again. No doctor has told me anything different than that.”

If Thomas misses that much time, Cleveland’s signing of former NBA Most Valuable Player, Derrick Rose, becomes that much more important. Rose, 28, spent 2016/17 with the Knicks and while off court issues plagued most of his season, he was a productive asset, averaging 18.0 PPG and 4.4 APG. Hindered by injury for most of his career, Rose underwent surgery for a torn meniscus  — his fourth knee surgery — in April but is expected to be ready for training camp.

Cleveland signed Rose to a one-year, $2.1MM  deal — the veteran’s minimum. The same player who spent the last two years saying he will seek a maximum contract (which would have been worth approximately $150MM) will make less in 2017/18 than Ron Baker — his backup in New York last season. Yet, much like his new teammate Thomas, Rose is confident about what he will do in a Cavs uniform.

“When I get on a good team and I’m still hooping the same way, what are you going to say then?” Rose said to Tim Reynolds of the Associated Press. “The only thing that you’ll can say is that I can still play.”

If Rose can still play at the level of last season, Cleveland will have a more than adequate stopgap if Thomas is not ready to begin the year. Conversely, unless Rose somehow recaptures his 2011 MVP form, he will be a significant downgrade from the departed Kyrie Irving

Either way, Rose will have the opportunity to prove with his play that he’s worth more than the undrafted rookie who was his backup in free agency.

With all of that said: Do you think Rose will be a key part of the Cavaliers next season? If he plays well in Thomas’ absence, should he retain the starters role? Will his body be able to hold up? Will Thomas come back healthy and keep Rose on the bench?

Community Shootaround: Buyout Rules

Under the NBA’s current rules, players who reach buyout agreements become unrestricted free agents and are able to sign with anybody. Of course, they almost always choose championship contenders, giving a handful of teams a huge advantage in the buyout market.

Ira Winderman of The Sun-Sentinel is the latest writer to support changes to the system, using Dwyane Wade as an example. Wade seems likely to negotiate a buyout with the Bulls at some point this season, then is expected to join former Heat teammate LeBron James in Cleveland.

Winderman endorses a suggestion made last season by ESPN’s Zach Lowe to establish a secondary waiver process that would allow teams to bid on players who agree to buyouts, using any remaining cap space or exceptions they might have. The Pacers, for instance, with $7MM in cap space could submit a claim for Wade, as could the Heat with their $4.3MM mid-level exception.
The Cavaliers and Warriors, who have been to three straight NBA Finals, benefited greatly from the buyout process late last season. Cleveland added Deron Williams and Andrew Bogut, although he suffered a fractured left tibia in his first game and was eventually waived. Golden State reached an agreement with Jose Calderon, then changed direction after an injury to Kevin Durant and gave that roster spot to Matt Barnes.
Do you believe the current system is unfair, or have players who take buyouts earned the right to join teams that can win a title? Please share your thoughts in the space below. We look forward to what you have to say.

Community Shootaround: Sweetening The Deal

Though the Cavaliers haven’t confirmed it, a report tonight says they won’t approve the trade of Kyrie Irving to the Celtics unless Boston throws in at least one more asset.

The sticking point is the condition of Isaiah Thomas‘ hip, which Cleveland officials contend is worse than they expected after seeing the results of Friday’s physical. The Cavs are believed to want another player or an extra draft pick included to compensate them for the time Thomas might miss, while sources say the Celtics insist they were honest about Thomas in trade talks and will resist any effort to sweeten the deal.

At this stage, both teams have incentives to get the trade done. Cleveland has been getting positive reviews for the package it was able to get for Irving, who put the franchise in a difficult position by demanding a trade. The Cavs picked up Thomas, who has been an All-Star the past two seasons, along with Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and the Nets’ unprotected first-rounder for next year. If the deal is called off, Cleveland would have to resume efforts to trade Irving less than a month from camp and would be hard pressed to obtain four similar assets.

The Celtics may have burned their bridges with Thomas (as did some of their fans who set his jersey on fire on social media), who has been greatly underpaid for his production during his two and a half seasons in Boston. There’s no way to know how long Thomas might be sidelined, potentially leaving the Celtics shorthanded in the backcourt for an extended stretch. Plus, Thomas will be a free agent next summer and may see the collapsed deal as a sign that he’s not appreciated in Boston. Crowder would also be returning to an uncomfortable situation, although he’s under contract through 2019/20.

Considering both teams’ situations and their desire to be the top seed in the East, should the Celtics sweeten the trade if the Cavaliers demand it, and how much should they agree to? Please leave your responses in the space below. We look forward to what you have to say.

Community Shootaround: Challenging The Warriors

Tuesday night’s blockbuster deal that sent Kyrie Irving to the Celtics would have been clearly the biggest news of many NBA offseasons. But it has a lot of competition this summer in a league where Jimmy Butler, Paul George and Chris Paul have all been traded since the playoffs ended.

Still, Tuesday’s trade affects the balance of power in the East, both for the 2017/18 season and for years to come. The Cavaliers added an extra defender in Jae Crowder, who can harass Kevin Durant and the Warriors’ other wings if we get another Cleveland-Golden State matchup in the Finals. In landing Irving along with Gordon Hayward, the Celtics probably made the best two offseason acquisitions in the East.

But does that mean the Warriors should be afraid of either team — or anyone else?

Golden State brought back virtually all the key components of its championship team and picked up promising rookie Jordan Bell in the draft. Stephen Curry agreed to a five-year extension. Kevin Durant inked a one-year deal with a player option, but that was only to lead to a long-term contract next summer. Klay Thompson is under contract for two more seasons, and Draymond Green is signed for the next three.

So in addition to a wealth of talent, the Warriors will have continuity in their corner.

A lot of teams got better this summer. The Thunder got a bargain price on George. The Timberwolves traded for Butler and signed Jeff Teague and Taj Gibson. The Rockets traded for Paul and may have Carmelo Anthony before the season starts.

So with training camps about a month away, we want to know who you believe will be the Warriors’ top challenger. Please leave your comments below.

Community Shootaround: Kyrie Irving Drama Just Starting

Kyrie Irving has a new home as the disgruntled Cavaliers All-Star was traded to the Celtics as part of a four-player trade that also sends the Nets‘ unprotected 2018 first-round pick to Cleveland. On the surface, it seems that the Irving saga is over; all involved parties can move on, and things can retain a sense of normalcy.

Wrong.

This latest chapter is just beginning as the trade and its ramifications will be examined under a microscope that won’t even reflect Isaiah Thomas’ alleged growth spurt.  Thomas, who will head to Cleveland as part of the trade, will do so with questions surrounding his hip — the same hip that caused him to miss most of the playoffs in 2016/17. Celtics general manager Danny Ainge spoke to reporters, including ESPN’s Jeff Goodman (Twitter link) on a conference call Tuesday night and indicated that Thomas’ troubled hip played “some” part in the decision to consummate a deal.

ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski tweets that the Celtics expected a mix of rehab and rest would bring Thomas back to full health. Now, the Cavaliers plan with Thomas is to “monitor closely” as he recovers, adding that the team is “anxious” to give him a physical. However, Wojnarowski adds that Cleveland has “no short term concerns” with Thomas’ hip and instead view him as a player entering his contract year with extra motivation.

Thomas indicated multiple times this offseason that his goal is to land a maximum contract in free agency. In an interview with Stephen Hewitt of the Boston Herald earlier this month, Thomas said he feels confident about landing a max deal.

“Very confident,” Thomas said. “I deserve it. I put the work in, and you can put me down against any guard in the NBA. . . . My numbers are up there with the best players in the world, and my team is winning. So, I mean, you have to reward that.”

Thomas, 28, is not the only player in the deal who will reach free agency soon. Irving is set to hit the open market in 2019, but Wojnarowski reported that Irving is “thrilled” to join Boston and that the Celtics made the deal with a “great chance” to re-sign him (Twitter Link).

“Kyrie is one of the best scorers in the NBA. He has proven that on the biggest stage, the NBA Finals, the last three years,” Ainge said in a press release announcing the trade. “He’s been an NBA champion, an Olympic Gold Medalist, and a four-time All-Star. For all he’s accomplished, we think his best years are ahead of him.”

Factoring in the rest of Cleveland’s return (Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic, and the aforementioned draft pick), the team secured a sizeable haul in exchange for a player who, for all his talented, reportedly wanted out. Pairing a healthy Thomas with Crowder’s defense along with LeBron James, Kevin Love and lower-tier talents like Derrick Rose and Tristan Thompson makes for a dynamic team.

Likewise, adding Irving to a group that includes Gordon Hayward, Jayson Tatum, Al Horford, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown gives Boston a young, athletic, and yet still seasoned core of talent.

Whether or not that draft pick lands Cleveland a game-changing talent, Thomas or Irving re-sign with their new teams, or if any of the secondary pieces pan out will  the be major storylines to watch. The analysis of this trade will take on a new life when the Cavaliers welcome the Celtics to Cleveland on opening night October 17.

Do you think this trade works out well for both sides? Do you think Thomas’ hip injury will be an issue? Will Irving cement himself as Boston’s primary option? Sound off in the comments below!

Community Shootaround: Tampering Probe

The Lakers and team president Magic Johnson are under scrutiny as the league announced this weekend it was investigating potential tampering between the club and Paul George.

The Pacers, who dealt George to the Thunder this summer, filed the charges. The Lakers and Johnson now face a variety of potential punishments if the league finds evidence of impermissible contact and/or tampering.

George is a unique case in that he publicly stated his desire to sign with the Lakers when he becomes a free agent next summer. That prompted Indiana to shop the four-time All-Star, with the Thunder winning the sweepstakes by dealing away Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis.

As ESPN’s Bobby Marks points out, the Hawks and Kings were fined four years ago for outlining their plans to pursue free agents from other teams. But it’s been 17 years since the league cracked down hard on any team for tampering.

The Timberwolves were fined $3.5MM, lost five first-round picks (though two were later reinstated) and saw their owner and GM suspended. Those penalties were handed down when the league uncovered evidence that the club and forward Joe Smith had a side agreement for a future contract to circumvent the salary cap before Smith became a free agent. Smith wound up signing with the Pistons after Minnesota was prevented from securing his services.

A fine is the Lakers’ most likely penalty if some evidence of tampering is uncovered. However, if the league believes the Lakers and George already have a verbal agreement, they could face penalties similar to the ones doled out to the Timberwolves in 2000. It could also prevent George from joining the Lakers.

The Lakers have hired legal representation and seem confident they will be cleared of the charges.

That brings us to our question of the day: If the league’s tampering investigation involving the Lakers and Paul George uncovers evidence of a verbal agreement, should the Lakers be prohibited from signing George in free agency or acquiring him in a trade? If not, what would be an appropriate punishment?

Please take to the comments section to weigh in on this hot topic. We look forward to what you have to say.