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Poll: 2008 NBA Draft Take Two (Pick No. 25)

Scouting players and predicting how their skills will translate to the NBA is one of the more difficult tasks front offices have on their plates. Looking back over past drafts and how many lottery picks never evolved into stars, or even made a significant impact in the league, illustrates just how often stats, combine numbers and pure gut instinct often come up short.

Of course, we get the opportunity to critique these moves with the benefit of hindsight — a luxury that GMs don’t have on draft night. Having said that, it’s still fun to go back in time and take a theoretical look at how these drafts should have/could have gone.

We’ve been revisiting 2008 draft, which had a number of players who have gone on to post big numbers in the league. This was the year of Derrick Rose (No. 1 overall), Russell Westbrook (No. 4), Kevin Love (No. 5), Brook Lopez (No. 10) and Nicolas Batum (No. 25). Over the next few weeks, we’ll be posting a series of polls asking readers to vote on whom teams should have selected in each spot.

We’ve arrived at the No. 25 overall pick, which was held by Houston. In the “real world” draft, the Rockets dealt the pick as part of a three-team trade to the Blazers. The details of the swap were: Portland acquired the draft rights to the No. 25 pick (Batum) from Houston, the Rockets received the No. 33 pick (Joey Dorsey) from the Blazers and the No. 28 pick (Donte Greene) along with a 2009 second-round draft pick from Memphis, and the Grizzlies acquired the No. 27 pick (Darrell Arthur) from Portland. With Batum already off the board in our draft, having been taken at No. 7 overall by the Clippers, we’ll nix this trade and have Houston select for itself here.

So cast your vote for who the Rockets select and check back on Thursday to see the results, as well as to vote on whom the Spurs take with the No. 26 pick. Also, don’t limit yourself to a simple button click. Take to the comments section below and share your thoughts on the pick and why you voted the way that you did. If we fail to list a player who you think should be selected, feel free to post that in the comments section and we’ll be certain to tally those votes as well.

  1. Bulls — Russell Westbrook [Actual Pick — Derrick Rose]
  2. Heat — Kevin Love [Actual Pick — Michael Beasley]
  3. Wolves — Derrick Rose [Actual Pick — O.J. Mayo]
  4. Sonics/Thunder — DeAndre Jordan [Actual Pick — Russell Westbrook]
  5. Grizzlies — Brook Lopez [Actual Pick — Kevin Love]
  6. Knicks — Serge Ibaka  [Actual Pick — Danilo Gallinari]
  7. Clippers — Nicolas Batum [Actual Pick — Eric Gordon]
  8. Bucks — Goran Dragic [Actual Pick — Joe Alexander]
  9. Bobcats/Hornets — Danilo Gallinari [Actual Pick — D.J. Augustin]
  10. Nets — Ryan Anderson [Actual Pick — Brook Lopez]
  11. Blazers (from Pacers) — Eric Gordon [Actual Pick — Jerryd Bayless]
  12. Kings — George Hill  [Actual Pick — Jason Thompson]
  13. Pacers (from Blazers) — Robin Lopez [Actual Pick — Brandon Rush]
  14. Warriors — Courtney Lee [Actual Pick — Anthony Randolph]
  15. Suns — Roy Hibbert [Actual Pick — Robin Lopez]
  16. Sixers— Nikola Pekovic [Actual Pick  — Marreese Speights]
  17. Raptors — O.J. Mayo [Actual Pick — Roy Hibbert]
  18. Wizards — Mario Chalmers [Actual Pick — JaVale McGee]
  19. Cavaliers — Timofey Mozgov [Actual Pick  — J.J. Hickson]
  20. Bobcats/Hornets (from Nuggets) — Michael Beasley [Actual Pick — Alexis Ajinca]
  21. Nets (from Mavs) — Omer Asik [Actual Pick — Ryan Anderson]
  22. Magic  — D.J. Augustin [Actual Pick — Courtney Lee]
  23. Jazz — Marreese Speights [Actual Pick — Kosta Koufos]
  24. Sonics/Thunder (from Suns) — Jerryd Bayless [Actual Pick — Serge Ibaka]
  25. Rockets — ?? [Actual Pick — Nicolas Batum]

If you’re a Trade Rumors app user, click here to vote.

Salary Cap Snapshot: San Antonio Spurs

With the free agent signing period winding down and teams looking ahead to the preseason, we at Hoops Rumors will be tracking the Salary Cap figures for each team around the league. These posts will be maintained throughout the season once financial data is reported. They will be located on the sidebar throughout the year, once all the teams’ cap figures have been relayed. You can always check RosterResource.com for up-to-date rosters for each franchise, with the Spurs’ team page accessible here.

Here’s a breakdown of where the Spurs currently stand financially:


Guaranteed Salary

Total Guaranteed Salary= $108,372,141


Cash Sent Out Via Trade:  $0 [Amount Remaining $3.5MM]

Cash Received Via Trade: $0 [Amount Remaining $3.5MM]


Payroll Exceptions Available


Total Projected Payroll: $108,372,141

Salary Cap: $94,143,000

Estimated Available Cap Space: $14,229,141

Luxury Tax Threshold: $113,287,000

Amount Below Luxury Tax: $4,914,859

Last Updated: 4/6/17

The Basketball Insiders salary pages and The Vertical’s salary database were used in the creation of this post.

Poll: 2008 NBA Draft Take Two (Pick No. 24)

Scouting players and predicting how their skills will translate to the NBA is one of the more difficult tasks front offices have on their plates. Looking back over past drafts and how many lottery picks never evolved into stars, or even made a significant impact in the league, illustrates just how often stats, combine numbers and pure gut instinct often come up short.

Of course, we get the opportunity to critique these moves with the benefit of hindsight — a luxury that GMs don’t have on draft night. Having said that, it’s still fun to go back in time and take a theoretical look at how these drafts should have/could have gone.

We’ve been revisiting 2008 draft, which had a number of players who have gone on to post big numbers in the league. This was the year of Derrick Rose (No. 1 overall), Russell Westbrook (No. 4), Kevin Love (No. 5), Brook Lopez (No. 10) and Nicolas Batum (No. 25). Over the next few weeks, we’ll be posting a series of polls asking readers to vote on whom teams should have selected in each spot.

We’ve arrived at the No. 24 overall pick, which was held by the Sonics/Thunder by way of Phoenix. The pick was acquired by Seattle/OKC along with the Suns’ 2010 first-round draft picks and Kurt Thomas in exchange for a 2009 second-round draft pick and a trade exception worth $8MM. The 2008 pick was used in the “real world” draft to select Serge Ibaka, who is already off the board in our re-draft, having gone to the Knicks at No. 6.

So cast your vote for who Seattle/OKC selects and check back on Wednesday to see the results, as well as to vote on whom the Rockets should have taken with the No. 25 pick. Also, don’t limit yourself to a simple button click. Take to the comments section below and share your thoughts on the pick and why you voted the way that you did. If we fail to list a player who you think should be selected, feel free to post that in the comments section and we’ll be certain to tally those votes as well.

  1. Bulls — Russell Westbrook [Actual Pick — Derrick Rose]
  2. Heat — Kevin Love [Actual Pick — Michael Beasley]
  3. Wolves — Derrick Rose [Actual Pick — O.J. Mayo]
  4. Sonics/Thunder — DeAndre Jordan [Actual Pick — Russell Westbrook]
  5. Grizzlies — Brook Lopez [Actual Pick — Kevin Love]
  6. Knicks — Serge Ibaka  [Actual Pick — Danilo Gallinari]
  7. Clippers — Nicolas Batum [Actual Pick — Eric Gordon]
  8. Bucks — Goran Dragic [Actual Pick — Joe Alexander]
  9. Bobcats/Hornets — Danilo Gallinari [Actual Pick — D.J. Augustin]
  10. Nets — Ryan Anderson [Actual Pick — Brook Lopez]
  11. Blazers (from Pacers) — Eric Gordon [Actual Pick — Jerryd Bayless]
  12. Kings — George Hill  [Actual Pick — Jason Thompson]
  13. Pacers (from Blazers) — Robin Lopez [Actual Pick — Brandon Rush]
  14. Warriors — Courtney Lee [Actual Pick — Anthony Randolph]
  15. Suns — Roy Hibbert [Actual Pick — Robin Lopez]
  16. Sixers— Nikola Pekovic [Actual Pick  — Marreese Speights]
  17. Raptors — O.J. Mayo [Actual Pick — Roy Hibbert]
  18. Wizards — Mario Chalmers [Actual Pick — JaVale McGee]
  19. Cavaliers — Timofey Mozgov [Actual Pick  — J.J. Hickson]
  20. Bobcats/Hornets (from Nuggets) — Michael Beasley [Actual Pick — Alexis Ajinca]
  21. Nets (from Mavs) — Omer Asik [Actual Pick — Ryan Anderson]
  22. Magic  — D.J. Augustin [Actual Pick — Courtney Lee]
  23. Jazz — Marreese Speights [Actual Pick — Kosta Koufos]
  24. Sonics/Thunder (from Suns) — ?? [Actual Pick — Serge Ibaka]

If you’re a Trade Rumors app user, click here to vote.

Traded First-Round Picks For 2017 NBA Draft

The 2017 NBA draft is still more than nine months away, but with the start of the regular season fast approaching, it’s worth taking stock of how this season’s results will affect next year’s draft. Depending on how certain teams perform during the 2016/17 campaign, other clubs will have the opportunity to pick up an extra first-round selection, or to swap first-rounders with those teams.

There’s a good chance that a few more 2017 first-round selections will change hands before the 2017 trade deadline, or on draft night next June, but many picks have already been included in trades. Five teams currently have the opportunity to grab an extra first-rounder in 2017, while two other teams could have the chance to move up in the first round by swapping picks with another club.

Below, you’ll find a breakdown of the first-round picks that could (or will) change hands. For each selection, we make a note of which team is sending and receiving it, the protection on the pick, and what will happen if the protection language prevents the pick from being conveyed. For instance, the Bulls are on track to receive the Kings’ first-round pick, but only if it falls outside the top 10. If Sacramento’s pick is a top-10 selection, the Bulls will instead receive the Kings’ second-rounder.

Here’s a breakdown of the traded first-round picks for 2017:

Traded first-round picks:

Brooklyn Nets

  • From: Washington Wizards
  • Protection: 1-14
  • If not conveyed: Nets will have chance to get Wizards’ 2018 first-rounder (protected 1-14).

Chicago Bulls

  • From: Sacramento Kings
  • Protection: 1-10
  • If not conveyed: Bulls will instead receive Kings’ second-round pick (protected 56-60).

Los Angeles Lakers

  • From: Houston Rockets
  • Protection: None

Orlando Magic

  • From: Los Angeles Clippers or Toronto Raptors (less favorable)
  • Protection: 1-14 (Clippers pick)
  • If not conveyed: In the unlikely event that the Clippers’ pick gets protected and the Magic receive Toronto’s pick, the Raptors would have a chance to get the Clippers’ 2018 first-rounder (protected 1-14).

Philadelphia 76ers

  • From: Dallas Mavericks
  • Protection: 1-18
  • If not conveyed: Sixers will instead Mavericks’ 2017 second-rounder (protected 56-60) and Mavericks’ 2018 second-rounder (protected 56-60).

Philadelphia 76ers

  • From: Los Angeles Lakers
  • Protection: 1-3
  • If not conveyed: Sixers will get Lakers’ 2018 first-rounder (unprotected).

Portland Trail Blazers

  • From: Cleveland Cavaliers
  • Protection: None

Portland Trail Blazers

  • From: Memphis Grizzlies
  • Protection: 1-5
  • If not conveyed: Trail Blazers will have chance to get Grizzlies’ 2018 first-rounder (protected 1-5).

Sacramento Kings

  • From: New Orleans Pelicans
  • Protection: 1-3
  • If not conveyed: Kings will have chance to get Pelicans’ 2018 first-rounder (protected only for No. 1 pick).

Utah Jazz

  • From: Golden State Warriors
  • Protection: None

Pick swaps are rarer than simple pick trades, but they’re often included in deals to get around the fact that teams can’t trade consecutive future first-round picks. For instance, in the Nets/Celtics blockbuster that saw Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett land in Brooklyn, Boston received the Nets’ 2014, 2016, and 2018 first-rounders, plus first-round swap rights in 2017. The Nets couldn’t leave themselves without first-round picks in back-to-back future seasons, so giving the Celtics the right to swap selections ensured that the Nets would still have a 2017 first-rounder — either their own or Boston’s.

That pick swap is one of two that could be in play this season. Here they are:

Potential first-round pick swaps:

Boston Celtics

  • Can swap with: Brooklyn Nets
  • Protection: None
  • If Celtics choose to swap, they’d owe Nets their second-round pick (protected 31-45).

Philadelphia 76ers

  • Can swap with: Sacramento Kings
  • Protection: 11-30 (can only swap if Kings’ pick falls in top 10)
  • If Kings’ pick falls between 11-30, their obligation to Sixers is extinguished.

RealGM’s database of future traded pick details was used in the creation of this post.

Poll: When Will Nets Make Playoffs?

After making the postseason with a 38-44 record in 2014/15, the Nets fell out of contention last season, finishing with a 21-61 mark, the team’s worst showing since its 12-win season in New Jersey in 2009/10. However, while most fans and pundits expect the Nets to be among the league’s worst teams this year, at least one Brooklyn player is optimistic about the club’s chances of returning to the playoffs.

Bojan Bogdanovic, who is coming off an impressive Olympic performance in Rio and is expected to be one of the Nets’ primary scorers in 2016/17, tells Brian Lewis of The New York Post that he believes the team is capable of earning a spot in the postseason.

“They can write what they want,” Bogdanovic said. “But we’re going to work hard to give it our best. When we get in a game, we have a chance to beat anybody. It’s going to be tough, but if we play like we practice, we have a chance.”

Last year’s eight Eastern Conference playoff teams are all expected to be in the conversation once again, and lottery clubs like the Bulls, Wizards, Magic, Bucks, and Knicks also hope to contend for one of the top eight seeds. Even the Sixers added plenty of talent in the offseason and look like they have a chance to get out of the Eastern Conference cellar.

So, today’s poll won’t ask whether or not the Nets will make the playoffs this year — the response to that question would likely be overwhelmingly one-sided. Instead, we’ll ask how long it will take Brooklyn to get back to the postseason. Without their own first-round picks in either of the next two years, will it take longer than three years for the Nets to make it? Longer than five? How long do you expect the rebuild to last in Brooklyn?

Vote in our poll and weigh in below in the comments section with your thoughts!

Trade Rumors app users, click here to vote.

Salary Cap Snapshot: Sacramento Kings

With the free agent signing period winding down and teams looking ahead to the preseason, we at Hoops Rumors will be tracking the Salary Cap figures for each team around the league. These posts will be maintained throughout the season once financial data is reported. They will be located on the sidebar throughout the year, once all the teams’ cap figures have been relayed. You can always check RosterResource.com for up-to-date rosters for each franchise, with the Kings’ team page accessible here.

Here’s a breakdown of where the Kings currently stand financially:


Guaranteed Salary

Total Guaranteed Salary= $95,668,673


Cash Sent Out Via Trade:  $0 [Amount Remaining $3.5MM]

Cash Received Via Trade: $0 [Amount Remaining $3.5MM]


Payroll Exceptions Available

  • Trade Exception$2,963,814 (Omri Casspi trade) — Expires on 2/20/18
  • Room Exception$2,898,000

Total Projected Payroll: $95,668,673

Salary Cap: $94,143,000

Estimated Available Cap Space: $1,525,673

Luxury Tax Threshold: $113,287,000

Amount Below Luxury Tax: $17,618,327

Last Updated: 2/22/17

The Basketball Insiders salary pages and The Vertical’s salary database were used in the creation of this post.

Poll: 2008 NBA Draft Take Two (Pick No. 23)

Scouting players and predicting how their skills will translate to the NBA is one of the more difficult tasks front offices have on their plates. Looking back over past drafts and how many lottery picks never evolved into stars, or even made a significant impact in the league, illustrates just how often stats, combine numbers and pure gut instinct often come up short.

Of course, we get the opportunity to critique these moves with the benefit of hindsight — a luxury that GMs don’t have on draft night. Having said that, it’s still fun to go back in time and take a theoretical look at how these drafts should have/could have gone.

We’ve been revisiting 2008 draft, which had a number of players who have gone on to post big numbers in the league. This was the year of Derrick Rose (No. 1 overall), Russell Westbrook (No. 4), Kevin Love (No. 5), Brook Lopez (No. 10) and Nicolas Batum (No. 25). Over the next few weeks, we’ll be posting a series of polls asking readers to vote on whom teams should have selected in each spot.

We’ve arrived at the No. 23 overall pick, which was held by the Jazz. In the “real world” draft. With that pick, Utah nabbed Kosta Koufos, who is still available in our re-draft. Will the franchise take Koufos once again, or head in a different direction? The answer is entirely up to you.

So cast your vote for who Utah selects and check back on Tuesday to see the results, as well as to vote on whom the Sonics/Thunder should have taken with the No. 24 pick. Also, don’t limit yourself to a simple button click. Take to the comments section below and share your thoughts on the pick and why you voted the way that you did. If we fail to list a player who you think should be selected, feel free to post that in the comments section and we’ll be certain to tally those votes as well.

  1. Bulls — Russell Westbrook [Actual Pick — Derrick Rose]
  2. Heat — Kevin Love [Actual Pick — Michael Beasley]
  3. Wolves — Derrick Rose [Actual Pick — O.J. Mayo]
  4. Sonics/Thunder — DeAndre Jordan [Actual Pick — Russell Westbrook]
  5. Grizzlies — Brook Lopez [Actual Pick — Kevin Love]
  6. Knicks — Serge Ibaka  [Actual Pick — Danilo Gallinari]
  7. Clippers — Nicolas Batum [Actual Pick — Eric Gordon]
  8. Bucks — Goran Dragic [Actual Pick — Joe Alexander]
  9. Bobcats/Hornets — Danilo Gallinari [Actual Pick — D.J. Augustin]
  10. Nets — Ryan Anderson [Actual Pick — Brook Lopez]
  11. Blazers (from Pacers) — Eric Gordon [Actual Pick — Jerryd Bayless]
  12. Kings — George Hill  [Actual Pick — Jason Thompson]
  13. Pacers (from Blazers) — Robin Lopez [Actual Pick — Brandon Rush]
  14. Warriors — Courtney Lee [Actual Pick — Anthony Randolph]
  15. Suns — Roy Hibbert [Actual Pick — Robin Lopez]
  16. Sixers— Nikola Pekovic [Actual Pick  — Marreese Speights]
  17. Raptors — O.J. Mayo [Actual Pick — Roy Hibbert]
  18. Wizards — Mario Chalmers [Actual Pick — JaVale McGee]
  19. Cavaliers — Timofey Mozgov [Actual Pick  — J.J. Hickson]
  20. Bobcats/Hornets (from Nuggets) — Michael Beasley [Actual Pick — Alexis Ajinca]
  21. Nets (from Mavs) — Omer Asik [Actual Pick — Ryan Anderson]
  22. Magic  — D.J. Augustin [Actual Pick — Courtney Lee]
  23. Jazz — ?? [Actual Pick — Kosta Koufos]

If you’re a Trade Rumors app user, click here to vote.

Community Shootaround: NCAA Transfer Rules

The NCAA’s rules regarding its restrictions on student-athlete transfers are facing a legal challenge. A lawsuit filed this past spring is asserting that these restrictions are illegal via antitrust laws. As it currently stands, the rule regarding student-athletes switching institutions is: If an athlete wishes to transfer from one four-year institution to another, he or she must sit out an entire academic year before being eligible to play again.

This rule doesn’t apply to coaches, who can change jobs at will without any penalty. So, as Tom Ziller of SB Nation points out, an athlete who chooses a particular school based on the desire to play for a specific coach and that coach then heads off to greener pastures (literally given the salaries these men/women pull down), would have to put his/her college career on hold for a full year. This system also creates circumstances where players wanting to transfer lose out because coaches generally prefer athletes who can contribute immediately.

I can’t see any circumstance or rationale where this is fair to the athletes. But it’s not just the NCAA who wants to keep things status quo, as many college basketball coaches fear what the elimination of the current transfer eligibility rules would do to the sport, as ESPN’s Jeff Goodman relayed. As Goodman notes in his article, there were a total of 750 transfers last year, and coaches claim that if the courts shoot down the transfer eligibility restriction, that number could rise to 1,000 or more.

Despite the current rules, transfers are on the rise as unhappy players are accepting the one-year penalty in order to find better situations for themselves. Plus, an increasing amount of players are using the graduate transfer rule to use their remaining NCAA eligibility while pursuing an advanced degree at a new school with no penalty. This is possible if players earn their Bachelor’s degree in three years or pick up a redshirt year, or both, as Ziller points out.

This brings me to the topic for today’s discussion: Should the NCAA transfer rules stay in place as is, or are alterations needed? If you believe that changes are in order, what would be a fair compromise for all parties?

One compromise that I believe should be implemented, is that if a head coach is fired, retires or leaves for another school, then his/her players should also be free to change schools without penalty. Many of these players based their decisions specifically on who would be their coach and who they felt comfortable with guiding them through their college years. Or year, in the case of many of the top players. The only sticky point with this idea is that coaches could theoretically switch schools and bring with them a large chunk of their roster. This could lead to some “package hires,” where coaches’ deals depend on who they can bring along with them. That could cause some major ethical issues, so perhaps some restrictions would be needed in those instances.

What do you think the answer is? Take to the comments section to share your thoughts and potential fixes to the system. We look forward to what you have to say.

Hoops Rumors 2016 Free Agent Tracker

It has been nearly two and a half months since the NBA’s 2016 free agent period got underway, and while a few notable players – such as Lance Stephenson – are still coming off the board, the majority of deals these days are for lower-profile camp invitees.

With training camps fast approaching, Hoops Rumors is here to help you keep track of which players have landed with which teams this offseason. To this end, we present our Free Agent Tracker, a feature we’ve had each year since our inception in 2012. Using our tracker, you can quickly look up deals, sorting by team, position, free agent type, and a handful of other variables.

A few notes on the tracker:

  • Some of the information you’ll find in the tracker will reflect reported contract agreements, rather than finalized deals. As signings become official, we’ll continue to update and modify the data as needed. A few rumored back-of-the-roster signings that have not yet been officially confirmed aren’t included in our tracker, for now.
  • When the years and dollars for a contract haven’t yet been confirmed, our data will be based on what’s been reported to date, so in some cases those amounts will be approximations rather than official figures. Salaries aren’t necessarily fully guaranteed either.
  • A restricted free agent who signs an offer sheet will be listed under the team that extended the offer sheet, but note that those signings won’t be official unless the player’s original team declines to match within the three-day period to do so. If the original team matches, we’ll update the tracker to show that the player is back with that team.

Our 2016 Free Agent Tracker can be found anytime on the right sidebar under “Hoops Rumors Features,” and it’s also under the “Tools” menu atop the site. It will be updated throughout the offseason, so be sure to check back for the latest info. If you have any corrections, please let us know right here.