- Eric Nehm of The Athletic explores a number of Bucks-related topics in his mailbag, including how the team could address any lack of size up front, Alex Antetokounmpo‘s situation and more. Milwaukee is coming off its first championship season since 1971.
The 2021/22 NBA regular season will get underway next month, so it’s time to start getting serious about predictions for the upcoming campaign and to resume an annual Hoops Rumors tradition.
With the help of the lines from a handful of sports betting sites, including Bovada and BetOnline, we’re running through the predicted win totals for each of the NBA’s 30 teams, by division. In a series of team-by-team polls, you’ll get the chance to weigh in on whether you think those forecasts are too optimistic or too pessimistic.
In 2020/21, our voters went 17-13 on their over/under picks. Can you top that in ’21/22?
As a reminder, the NBA played a 72-game schedule in 2020/21, so a team that won 41 games last year finished with a 41-31 record. This year, a club that wins 41 games would be a .500 team (41-41). For added clarity, we’ve noted the record that each team would have to achieve to finish “over” its projected win total.
We’ll turn today to the Central division…
Milwaukee Bucks
- 2020/21 record: 46-26
- Over/under for 2021/22: 54.5 wins (55-27)
- Major offseason moves:
- Added: George Hill, Grayson Allen, Semi Ojeleye, Rodney Hood, Georgios Kalaitzakis
- Lost: P.J. Tucker, Bryn Forbes, Jeff Teague, Sam Merrill
Trade Rumors app users, click here for Bucks poll.
Indiana Pacers
- 2020/21 record: 34-38
- Over/under for 2021/22: 42.5 wins (43-39)
- Major offseason moves:
- Added: Chris Duarte, Isaiah Jackson, Torrey Craig
- Lost: Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, JaKarr Sampson
Trade Rumors app users, click here for Pacers poll.
Chicago Bulls
- 2020/21 record: 31-41
- Over/under for 2021/22: 42.5 wins (43-39)
- Major offseason moves:
- Added: DeMar DeRozan, Lonzo Ball, Alex Caruso, Tony Bradley, Derrick Jones, Ayo Dosunmu, Marko Simonovic, Stanley Johnson, Alize Johnson, Matt Thomas, Tyler Cook
- Lost: Lauri Markkanen, Thaddeus Young, Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple, Daniel Theis, Denzel Valentine, Al-Farouq Aminu, Ryan Arcidiacono, Cristiano Felicio
Trade Rumors app users, click here for Bulls poll.
Cleveland Cavaliers
- 2020/21 record: 22-50
- Over/under for 2021/22: 26.5 wins (27-55)
- Major offseason moves:
Trade Rumors app users, click here for Cavaliers poll.
Detroit Pistons
- 2020/21 record: 20-52
- Over/under for 2021/22: 25.5 wins (26-56)
- Major offseason moves:
Trade Rumors app users, click here for Pistons poll.
Previous voting results:
- Brooklyn Nets (55.5 wins): Over (63.2%)
- Philadelphia 76ers (51.5 wins): Under (70.0%)
- Boston Celtics (46.5 wins): Over (58.1%)
- New York Knicks (42.5 wins): Over (65.1%)
- Toronto Raptors (36.5 wins): Under (50.6%)
- Utah Jazz (52.5 wins): Over (61.7%)
- Denver Nuggets (48.5 wins): Over (69.3%)
- Portland Trail Blazers (44.5 wins): Over (53.0%)
- Minnesota Timberwolves (34.5 wins): Under (57.1%)
- Oklahoma City Thunder (23.5 wins): Under (65.0%)
SEPTEMBER 15: The Bucks have officially signed Robinson to a two-way contract, the team announced today in a press release.
SEPTEMBER 12: The Bucks have agreed to a two-way contract with guard Justin Robinson, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic (Twitter link). Milwaukee now has both of its two-way roster spots filled.
Robinson, 23, spent most of last season in the G League with the Delaware Blue Coats. He averaged 5.5 points, 3.4 rebounds and 5.9 assists per game, shooting 40.5% from three-point range.
Robinson also signed two 10-day contracts with the Thunder toward the end of the season. He saw action in nine games, averaging 2.3 points and 9.8 minutes.
Milwaukee still has one open roster spot to use for training camp later this month. The franchise is coming off its first championship since 1971, bringing back much of the same core for the coming season.
Bulls All-Star shooting guard Zach LaVine is not worried about how he will mesh alongside new starting small forward DeMar DeRozan, per Sean Deveney of Heavy.com. Both players to this point have been primary scorers for their respective clubs.
“I don’t get that at all, because that’s just outside narratives,” LaVine said of the on-court collaboration with his pricey new Bulls teammate. “It’s our job to get out there and get to know each other, obviously personally and as a basketball player. It’s easy to make things work on the basketball court if you all have the same intent, and that’s winning.”
There’s more out of the Central Division:
- After recently tearing his left Achilles tendon during an offseason workout, 25-year-old Pacers guard Edmond Sumner underwent a successful surgery to repair the ligament, per a team press release. Drafted with the No. 52 pick out of Xavier by Indiana in 2017, Sumner has developed into a helpful reserve in his first four NBA seasons thus far. In 53 games played during the 2019/20 season, Sumner averaged 7.5 PPG, 1.8 RPG, and 0.9 APG across 16.2 MPG. He posted a shooting line of .525/.398/.819.
- The Pistons could stand to benefit from adding a third center with their available guaranteed roster spot, writes Rod Beard of the Detroit Free Press. The club signed Kelly Olynyk in free agency this summer, and are hopeful that second-year big man Isaiah Stewart, an All-Rookie Second Teamer, can continue to develop. Beard notes that it makes sense for Detroit to keep its 15th roster spot open through training camp, in case another veteran center becomes available elsewhere in the NBA.
- Bucks shooting guards Donte DiVincenzo and Grayson Allen, both set to be restricted free agents in 2022, could net contract extensions by October 18 this season. Eric Nehm of The Athletic posits that, judging by the contracts meted out to similar-caliber players during the 2021 offseason, DiVincenzo could earn a multiyear contract worth $50MM or more, though Nehm wonders if the Bucks will be cautious to extend him before seeing how he plays on the hardwood. DiVincenzo injured a tendon in his left foot suffered during the 2021 playoffs. Nehm views the newly-added Allen as something of a contingency plan for DiVincenzo.
Blake Griffin admits being upset over internet rumors that he wasn’t giving 100% during his time with the Pistons last season, writes Andrew Hammond of The Detroit Free Press. Griffin, who joined the Nets after agreeing to a buyout with Detroit in February, addressed that topic during an appearance on J.J. Redick‘s podcast, “The Old Man and the Three.”
“It bothered me,” Griffin said. “Because the stat was, he hadn’t dunked in 400-something days … sure.”
Griffin pointed out that the number is misleading because the Pistons weren’t part of the NBA’s restart in Orlando in the summer of 2020 and he only played 20 more games for Detroit before the buyout. He laughed off the criticism, but Hammond believes he was irritated by the narrative that formed.
There’s more from the Central Division:
- The Bucks were among several teams that worked out veteran center Johnny O’Bryant, according to Jeff Garcia of Locked on Spurs (hat tip to Dalton Sell of FanSided). The 28-year-old spent four years in the NBA, but has been out of the league since the 2017/18 season. He has been playing overseas and spent last season in the Turkish League. Milwaukee, which drafted O’Bryant in 2014, has two openings on its training camp roster. The Nets and Warriors also hosted workouts for O’Bryant, according to Garcia.
- Arturas Karnisovas is keeping his promise to not accept mediocrity on the Bulls‘ roster, observes Joe Cowley of The Chicago Sun-Times. Cowley notes that Zach LaVine and Coby White are the only players still remaining from when Karnisovas took over as executive vice president of basketball operations in April of 2020. Cowley expects the changes to continue as Chicago tries to break a four-year playoff drought.
- On his Instagram account, Cavaliers guard Collin Sexton claims that team officials were crying during his 2018 pre-draft workout because they had lost to the Warriors in the NBA Finals the day before.
- The Bucks still have to figure out what they’ll do with the remaining spots on the roster, Eric Nehm of The Athletic writes. They also have to decide whether to carry 14 or a full 15-player roster. The other remaining mystery is which players will be first off the bench this coming season.
10:00pm: The Bucks have officially signed Waters, according to RealGM’s transactions log.
6:10pm: The Bucks will sign free agent point guard Tremont Waters to a training camp deal, per Shams Charania of The Athletic (via Twitter).
Charania notes that Waters will have an opportunity to compete for a role on Milwaukee’s roster in camp. This agreement seems likely to be an Exhibit 10 contract, but details on the contract have yet to be divulged.
The reigning NBA champs have 13 players on guaranteed contracts, meaning they could have two open roster spots, though Georgios Kalaitzakis, Mamadi Diakite, and Elijah Bryant are also in the mix, and the Bucks may not carry a 15th man. The team also has a two-way slot open alongside Sandro Mamukelashvili.
The 5’10” Waters was selected by the Celtics with the No. 51 pick in 2019 out of LSU. The 23-year-old spent two years in college. He was named to the All-SEC First Team and honored as the Defensive Player of the Year during his final collegiate season in 2018/19.
He appeared in 11 games with Boston during his rookie season in 2019/20. He got significantly more run with Boston’s NBA G League affiliate, the Maine Red Claws. He averaged 18.0 PPG, 7.2 APG, 3.3 RPG, and 1.9 SPG in 36 games for the Red Claws, all starts. For his efforts, Waters was rewarded with an All-NBA G League Second Team inclusion, in addition to being named the NBA G League Rookie of the Year.
During his 2020/21 season with Boston, Waters averaged 3.8 PPG and 2.4 APG during 9.2 MPG across 26 games.
The Bulls added two new, defensive-minded free agent forwards over the weekend to build out their bench depth. Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times examines how the new pair of Stanley Johnson and Alize Johnson should fit for Chicago.
As Cowley writes, after the Bulls lost out on the sweepstakes to veteran Paul Millsap as their main reserve power forward, the team quickly pivoted to the Johnsons. Though neither player is much of a jump-shooter, both are young and athletic.
Due to a shallow frontcourt, Stanley and Alize Johnson should each see plenty of playing time behind starters DeMar DeRozan and Patrick Williams and pricier reserve Derrick Jones Jr. Cowley adds that the 6’7″ Alize Johnson could see some spot minutes as a small-ball center. All-Star Nikola Vucevic, and newly-added main backup Tony Bradley figure to see more minutes at the position. Johnson could compete with rookie center Marko Simonovic for occasional run at the five.
There’s more out of the Central Division:
- The Bulls appear to be closing in on their opening night roster after a busy offseason. Rob Schaefer of NBC Sports Chicago reviews Chicago’s depth chart heading into the 2021/22 season. Schaefer lauds the club’s creativity in thoroughly remaking itself this summer, a process that required several complex sign-and-trade agreements.
- Bucks reserve big man Bobby Portis, who is returning to Milwaukee on a team-friendly two-year, $9MM deal, chatted with Shams Charania of Stadium to discuss his free agent decision and his future with the team (Twitter video link). During the conversation, Charania observed that the Heat and Mavericks were among the playoff clubs seeking Portis’ services during the 2021 offseason. “This is a winning environment,” Portis said of the team with which he won a title this year. He noted that 2021 Finals MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo did he darnedest to ensure that Portis return to the Bucks as he entered free agency. “To have a guy like Giannis call me, wanting me to stay… is just great.”
- In case you missed it, the Cavaliers are continuing to explore adding swingman bench depth. Free agents Garrison Mathews and Denzel Valentine are among some of the names being considered.
After watching the Bucks win a championship for the first time in 50 years during the 2020/21 season, co-owner Marc Lasry is confident that the team will remain in the mix for a title again in ’21/22. Lasry told Sam Amick and Anthony Slater of The Athletic that he views the Bucks and Nets as the top two teams in the East entering the fall.
Asked if the Heat – who eliminated the Bucks from the playoffs in 2020 – are in that top tier alongside Milwaukee and Brooklyn, Lasry praised Kyle Lowry, Jimmy Butler, and P.J. Tucker, calling Miami a “really good” team. However, he said he believes the Bucks are better.
“Ultimately at the end of the day I’d rather have our team,” Lasry said. “… If we’re healthy, you know we should go pretty far.
“But I would say the same thing (about other teams). If the Nets are healthy, they should go pretty far. It’s who’s going to be the healthiest when you get there. And it’s been interesting trying to figure out (that part) because I bet you there’s going to be a lot of gaming of this… You want to be the No. 1 seed, but do you want to be the No. 1 seed, or do you want to make sure you’re the healthiest going into the playoffs?”
Lasry’s appearance on The Athletic’s Tampering podcast touched on several other topics of note. The discussion is worth checking out in full, but here are a few highlights from the Bucks’ co-owner, via Amick and Slater:
On head coach Mike Budenholzer getting a contract extension after being on the hot seat:
“Bud is really good. I mean, he is. He does have that quiet confidence, which is nice. So I think you go through all of this, and one of the things that I saw — and I told this to Bud — was I said, ‘Look, there was a huge amount of pressure on us, on him, on all of us, because everybody expects you to win.’ And what he showed us during that time is how well he handled the pressure, how well he prepared the team, and what a great job he did, so that after we won, we were like, ‘Look, it’s not like we want to reward you; we want to keep you.'”
On the 2020 acquisition of Jrue Holiday and how it influenced Giannis Antetokounmpo‘s decision to sign a long-term extension with the Bucks:
“(General manager) Jon Horst felt that (Holiday) was going to be the missing piece, and he was dead right. You know, I remember the first practice and Jrue is covering Giannis. And same thing — Giannis knew Jrue by reputation. After practice that day, Jon says to me, ‘Yeah, Giannis now knows how good he is. (Holiday’s) covering him. He’s good.’ It was actually great. It was. And I think 100 percent it was a huge factor in Giannis re-signing because he saw what we were willing to do.”
On the Bucks becoming a taxpayer in 2020/21 and going further into the tax in ’21/22:
“Look, (the tax) is a big part. I’m not going to tell you it’s not. I mean, it’s just — if you sign somebody for $5MM, you’re not signing him for $5MM, you’re signing him for $25MM, $20MM. You sort of look at that, and you’re trying to figure out, ‘Alright, look, if we’re going to do that, OK, there is a cost to it. Yeah, we want him, but that’s going to cost us $25MM or that’ll cost us $35MM.’ I mean, whatever the numbers are. And I think we’re very focused on that.
“Look, we’re a small-market team. It’s expensive. I mean, for us, this year we’re going to lose quite a bit of money. … But at the end of the day, the goal is that you want to keep winning a championship, so you’re going to spend the money.”
- The Bucks received $1MM from the Grizzlies in the Grayson Allen deal, Pincus adds in another tweet. Memphis acquired Sam Merrill and two second-round picks.