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The Mechanics Of Offering Four First-Round Picks

The Rockets have made the Timberwolves a trade offer for Jimmy Butler that includes four first-round picks, according to a Thursday report. However, there’s still no indication that the Wolves are close to accepting that offer, or any others, per Jon Krawczynski of The Athletic (Twitter link).

While it may seem shocking that Minnesota would turn down an offer featuring so many first-rounders, it’s worth digging into the details on those picks to get a sense of when they might change hands and how high they might land. Various reports on Houston’s offer haven’t entirely filled in those gaps, but we can make a few deductions based on a pair of rules included in the NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement.

The Stepien Rule:

As we explain in a glossary entry, this rule – named after former Cavaliers owner Ted Stepien – prevents teams from making trades that leave them without first-round picks in consecutive future years. A team that traded away its 2018 first-round pick can now trade away its 2019 first-rounder. However, if that team trades its 2019 first-round pick, it would be prohibited from trading away its 2020 first-rounder, unless it has acquired another team’s ’19 or ’20 pick.

This sounds a little complicated, but the upshot is that the Rockets couldn’t simply offer their 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022 first-rounders to Minnesota — they’d have to spread them out more than that, to avoid leaving themselves without first-round picks in consecutive future seasons.

The Seven-Year Rule:

The other key restriction on traded draft picks is that teams can’t trade future selections more than seven years in advance. That means that during the 2018/19 league year, the latest pick a club could trade is a 2025 selection — the 2026 draft is eight years away.


When the Hawks reportedly offered four first-round picks to the Pacers for Paul George at the 2017 trade deadline, their situation was a little different. Because Atlanta had already acquired a handful of extra first-rounders, the club could have just sent Indiana four first-rounders from the 2017, 2018, and 2019 drafts and avoided violating the Stepien rule.

The Rockets, on the other hand, don’t have the luxury of having stockpiled extra draft picks. They only hold their own. So, in order to adhere to both the Stepien rule and the seven-year-rule, Houston only has one path to putting four first-rounders on the table — they’d have to offer their 2019, 2021, 2023, and 2025 picks.

Now, typically when a team trades away a first-round pick, that pick will include some sort of protection, and will roll over to the following year if it doesn’t convey. For example, the Cavaliers owe the Hawks their 2019 first-rounder, but it’s top-10 protected. If it lands in the top 10, Cleveland would instead owe Atlanta its 2020 first-round pick, which would once again be top-10 protected.

Due to the limitations imposed by the Stepien rule and the seven-year rule, it would be very tricky for the Rockets to include similar protections on the first-rounders they’re offering to Minnesota. That 2019 first-rounder couldn’t roll over to 2020 without impacting the traded 2021 pick, due to the Stepien rule, which in turn would create a domino effect on the rest of the picks.

That doesn’t necessarily mean that all four picks would be unprotected though. Let’s say that Houston, confident in its ability to be a contender for at least the next three years, made the 2019 and 2021 first-rounders unprotected, believing that they’ll fall in the mid- to late-20s. But maybe the Rockets are less confident about that 2023 pick. In theory, they could put protections on it like the Raptors put on the pick they traded to the Spurs in the DeMar DeRozan/Kawhi Leonard blockbuster this summer.

The Raptors’ first-round pick acquired by San Antonio in that trade is top-20 protected. If it lands in the top 20, the Spurs would instead receive a pair of second-round picks (2020 and 2023). Houston could do something similar with that 2023 first-rounder — maybe it could be top-10 protected, and would turn into 2023 and 2024 second-rounders if it lands in the top 10. The Rockets could perhaps take a similar approach with that 2025 pick, though the seven-year rule would be a hindrance.

We don’t know for sure that the Rockets are going that route, but a couple reports on their latest offer indicated that there are, at least, “limited” protections on the picks they offered. If that’s the case, it would reduce the chances of one or two of those first-rounders turning into a blue chip asset, like multiple Nets picks did in their infamous trade with the Celtics. That would reduce the appeal of the offer for Minnesota.

It’s also worth noting that the Rockets would still need to send out enough salary to take back Butler’s $20.45MM salary. An Eric Gordon/P.J. Tucker combination would work, but I’m skeptical that Houston would put those players on the table in an offer that also features four first-rounders — a willingness to surrender four picks suggests a win-now mentality, and Gordon and Tucker are two players that will help the Rockets win now.

Instead, the Rockets are believed to be offering a package of Brandon Knight ($14.63MM) and Marquese Chriss ($3.21MM). Those players, acquired from Phoenix on August 31, can be aggregated in a trade two months after that deal — so, anytime after next Wednesday.

Chriss still has some upside and his cap hit is modest, but Knight hasn’t played since 2016/17 due to injuries and has another guaranteed year on his contract beyond this season, reducing his value. Neither of those players would have the sort of immediate impact that Tom Thibodeau is seeking in a trade package for Butler.

Ultimately, while a Rockets offer that features four first-round picks sounds tantalizing on the surface, there are multiple variables that could diminish the actual value of the offer, and at least a couple of those first-rounders wouldn’t change hands for at least five years.

It’s unclear whether those 2023 and 2025 picks would sway GM Scott Layden and Thibodeau, who may not be a part of the Timberwolves organization by then. Perhaps owner Glen Taylor would be more tempted by the offer, but it’s worth considering that Taylor is 77 years old and has been waiting for years for his franchise to return to contention — he also may not be enthusiastic about the idea of counting on a player drafted in 2025.

The Timberwolves still have more than three months until this season’s trade deadline, so we’ll see if they remain patient or if this latest offer helps push the saga toward a resolution.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

Rockets Offer Four First-Round Picks For Jimmy Butler

The Rockets are making a renewed bid to trade for All-Star shooting guard Jimmy Butler, proposing an offer that includes four first-round draft picks, according to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.

Houston is likely offering first-rounders in 2019, 2021, 2023 and 2025, a proposal that could help solidify the Timberwolves’ future alongside Andrew Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns. NBA rules prohibit teams from trading first-round picks in consecutive future years or picks more than seven years in advance.

Minnesota is said to be seeking a complete haul of future assets, young players and star talent, with Butler’s original trade request reaching the public more than a month ago. Butler has remained on the roster over a week into the season as the team continues to sift through potential trade packages.

Wolves owner Glen Taylor could have more interest in future assets than president Tom Thibodeau, who has prioritized a win-now mentality by seeking proposals that can help the team in the present day.

“When you look at Jimmy (Butler), he’s a top-10 player in the league,” Thibodeau said at Media Day last month. “We’re not going to make a bad deal. If it’s a good deal, then we’re interested.”

For Houston, the trade proposal shows their willingness to go all-in on a deep playoff run this season. Talks between the two teams are currently fluid, according to the ESPN.com report. The Rockets are currently dealing with injuries to James Harden, Nene and James Ennis, along with Chris Paul‘s  multi-game suspension.

Butler, a top two-way player in the NBA, has averaged 24.8 points, 5.3 rebounds and 3.8 steals in four games this season. He most recently requested to Wolves management that he be traded to the Heat, another team with longstanding interest in him. It’s unclear if he’d have interest in re-signing with the Rockets on a long-term deal once he reaches free agency in July of 2019.

Latest On Jimmy Butler

With the 2018/19 regular season underway, trade chatter around the NBA has quieted down for the time being. Typically, teams don’t complete many trades near the start of the season, since they’re still taking stock of what they have on their rosters — plus, many players don’t become eligible to be dealt until December.

Still, given all the Jimmy Butler trade rumors we heard in the weeks leading up to opening night, it’s a little jarring how quickly those rumors were put on the back burner, as Butler plays alongside the teammates he reportedly berated in practice earlier this month.

Appearing this week on The HoopsHype podcast with Alex Kennedy, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst revisited the Butler situation, exploring where things stand at the moment, and discussing when a deal might get done. Here are a few highlights from that conversation:

  • Although team owner Glen Taylor acknowledged that the Timberwolves almost certainly have to trade Butler before February’s deadline, Windhorst thinks it might be “a while” before a deal is completed.
  • As Windhorst observes, the Heat always appeared to be the most logical trade partner for Minnesota, but they didn’t want to bid against themselves. When Miami backed off trade talks before the season began, the club was betting that the Timberwolves had no other viable trade possibilities out there for Butler, and that might be true, says Windhorst.
  • While the Heat and Rockets, who won’t have cap room in 2019, have reason to pursue Butler in an in-season trade, teams with cap space can afford to be more patient, especially if the four-time All-Star won’t turn them into a title contender right away. Windhorst points to the Clippers as one team that won’t go all-in for Butler on the trade market when they could have an opportunity to go after him in free agency in the summer.
  • Interestingly, Windhorst identifies the Mavericks as one of the teams that still has interest in Butler. We heard last month that the Mavs had gauged the asking price for the All-NBA swingman, but a report out of Dallas suggested that it wasn’t a realistic landing spot for him. Like the Clippers, Dallas will have cap space in 2019.
  • Windhorst believes that, while they won’t say so publicly, several of the young players on the Timberwolves‘ roster will be “excited” if and when Butler is dealt.

Thibs: Rose Still Capable Of Being One Of League's Best

  • Timberwolves’ head coach Tom Thibodeau evidently thinks backup guard Derrick Rose still has a lot of gas left in the tank, despite a bevy of evidence to the contrary, telling Jace Frederick of the Pioneer Press that “as long as (Rose is) healthy, he’ll be one of the best players in the league.”

2019/20 Rookie Option Decisions Due In One Week

Unlike player and team options on veteran contracts, which generally have to be exercised or declined by the end of June, rookie scale contracts include third- and fourth-year options that teams must decide on a year early. The deadline for those decisions is October 31, which means that clubs have one more week to pick up or turn down those rookie scale options for the 2019/20 season.

While several teams have already announced their rookie scale option decisions for 2019/20, there are 14 clubs that will need to decide one way or the other on those options within the next week.

Below, we’ve listed the outstanding rookie scale option decisions for 2019/20, sorting them by their likelihood of being exercised. The first list features options that are certain to be exercised, such as Ben Simmons‘ or Jayson Tatum‘s. The second list features the rest of the options, which may still be picked up, but aren’t necessarily locks.

Let’s dive in…

Locks to be exercised:

Not necessarily locks to be exercised:

Because rookie scale salaries are typically so affordable, many of the options that we don’t view as locks to be picked up will still be exercised. For instance, even if Labissiere barely has a role in the Kings’ crowded frontcourt at the moment, Sacramento doesn’t have much guaranteed money on its books for 2019/20 and may view a $2,338,847 cap hit for the big man as a worthwhile investment.

Still, many of the players in that second list don’t currently have sizable rotation roles, so teams will have to decide whether it’s worth it to continue trying to develop those players in 2019/20, or if it makes more sense to simply replace them with minimum-salary veterans. That could be an especially tricky question for teams that project to be over the luxury tax line next season — in those cases, every saved dollar matters.

For a full list of the rookie scale options for 2019/20, including the ones that have already been picked up, check out our tracker.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

Josh Okogie Gives Solid Effort In First Career Start

  • Timberwolves rookie Josh Okogie played a solid role in the team’s game against Dallas on Saturday, filling in for Jimmy Butler at small forward and showing flashes of potential on both ends of the floor. “I knew where to pick my spots and what my role is when I’m on the court with them,” Okogie said, as relayed by Chris Hine of the Minneapolis Star Tribune. “I came in the game ready to make an impact. I knew I just had to come to the game, rebound, do the dirty stuff, let the others shine.”

2018 Offseason In Review: Minnesota Timberwolves

Hoops Rumors is breaking down the 2018 offseason for all 30 NBA teams, revisiting the summer’s free agent signings, trades, draft picks, departures, and more. We’ll evaluate each team’s moves from the last several months and look ahead to what the 2018/19 season holds for all 30 franchises. Today, we’re focusing on the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Signings:

  • Standard contracts:
    • Anthony Tolliver: One year, $5.75MM. Signed using mid-level exception.
    • James Nunnally: Two years, minimum salary. First year partially guaranteed ($350K). Second year non-guaranteed. Signed using minimum salary exception.
    • Luol Deng: One year, minimum salary. Signed using minimum salary exception.
    • Derrick Rose: One year, minimum salary. Re-signed using minimum salary exception.
  • Two-way contracts:
  • Non-guaranteed camp contracts:

Trades:

  • None

Draft picks:

  • 1-20: Josh Okogie — Signed to rookie contract.
  • 2-48: Keita Bates-Diop — Signed to three-year, minimum salary contract. First two years guaranteed. Signed using minimum salary exception.

Extensions:

  • Karl-Anthony Towns — Signed five-year, maximum salary rookie scale extension. Starts at 25% of the cap. Projected value of $158.05MM. Starts in 2019/20.
    • Note: Starting salary will be worth 30% of the cap if Towns earns All-NBA honors in 2018/19 (projected value of $189.66MM).

Departing players:

Other offseason news:

Salary cap situation:

  • Remained over the cap.
  • Carrying approximately $121.2MM in salary.
  • Hard-capped at $129.82MM.
  • Approximately $2.05MM of mid-level exception available ($6.59MM used on Anthony Tolliver and Keita Bates-Diop).

Check out the Minnesota Timberwolves’ full roster and depth chart at RosterResource.com.


Story of the summer:

Everything else that happened for the Timberwolves during the offseason was overshadowed on September 19 when Jimmy Butler issued a trade request to the front office. The move spawned a stream of chaos, some of it orchestrated and some of it legitimate, but the result was that Butler was in the lineup when Minnesota opened the season, regardless of his wishes.

Butler has expressed a desire to play for a contender and has clashed frequently with younger teammates Karl-Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins, but ultimately the dispute is motivated by money. Butler wants a five-year max deal next summer that would pay him around $190MM. The Wolves have his Bird Rights and are the only team that can extend that offer as long as he stays; everyone else is limited to four years at roughly $140MM. Butler is hoping to be traded during the season to another organization willing to make that commitment.

The Heat and Rockets have been the strongest suitors for Butler since his trade request became public, and Miami reportedly had an agreement in place before the Wolves asked for additional assets. That incident, along with sky-high requests from other teams that pursued Butler, have led many to question whether Minnesota has ever been serious about making a deal. Trade talks have been called “mostly dormant” for now, but Butler has maintained his desire to leave and there’s a strong chance something will materialize before the February deadline.

The Butler soap opera dwarfed a piece of good news that may have a greater impact on the Wolves’ future. Towns agreed to an extension last month that could pay him up to $190MM over the next five seasons. He is already among the league’s best centers at age 22 and should provide a cornerstone for the franchise to build around once Butler is gone.

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NBA Teams With Open Roster Spots

When the Kings sign Troy Williams to a two-way contract after he clears waivers today, as is expected, they’ll become the 16th NBA team to fill all 17 of their available roster spots, with 15 players on standard contracts and two more on two-way pacts.

Still, that will leave nearly half of the league’s teams that will still have at least one opening on their rosters, either on the standard 15-man squad or in their two-way slots.

For many clubs, that decision is primarily financially motivated. Teams like the Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Raptors, and Wizards all project to have pricey luxury tax bills at season’s end, so there’s no need for them to push those projected penalties higher by carrying an extra player they won’t use.

Other teams may simply prefer to preserve some roster flexibility rather than carrying a full 15-man squad. The Lakers, for instance, aren’t close to the tax line, but have an open roster spot for now. That could allow the team to make a trade or signing later to fortify its roster without costing anyone a job.

Listed below, with the help of our roster counts breakdown, are the teams that aren’t carrying full rosters.

Teams with an open 15-man roster spot:

  • Charlotte Hornets
  • Cleveland Cavaliers
  • Golden State Warriors
  • Houston Rockets
  • Los Angeles Lakers
  • Miami Heat
  • Minnesota Timberwolves
  • Oklahoma City Thunder
  • Toronto Raptors
  • Washington Wizards
    • Note: The Wizards have two open roster spots and will need to fill one of them by October 30.

Teams with an open two-way slot:

  • New Orleans Pelicans
  • Phoenix Suns
  • Portland Trail Blazers
    • Note: The Blazers have two open two-way slots.
  • San Antonio Spurs

Heat’s Josh Richardson Discusses Trade Rumors

Heat swingman Josh Richardson hasn’t expressed any dissatisfaction or requested a trade like Jimmy Butler has in Minnesota, but he has still been the subject of several trade rumors this fall since he’s viewed as the potential centerpiece of a Miami trade for Butler. Speaking to Ira Winderman of The South Florida Sun Sentinel, Richardson acknowledged that the NBA is a “cutthroat business” but added that he’s trying not to let the speculation affect him.

“For like the first hour, I was hearing from everyone,” Richardson said, referring to when his name first came up in the Butler rumors. “But after that, it is what it is. I don’t get too much into it. When it first came out a little bit, yeah, it was hard to ignore.”

Richardson, who added that the trade chatter was “a distraction at first,” hasn’t demonstrated any signs of being bothered by those rumors during his first two games of the 2018/19 season. The 25-year-old has poured in 24.5 PPG to go along with 4.5 RPG and 4.0 APG so far, showing exactly why the Timberwolves insisted on including him in a potential deal for Butler.

Minnesota’s Butler trade talks are “mostly dormant” at the moment, and multiple reports have suggested that Heat president Pat Riley told his players before the season that he has pulled the plug on Miami’s involvement in those discussions — at least for now. With Butler still expected to be moved by the February trade deadline, Richardson isn’t totally safe in South Beach yet, but for the time being, he’s welcoming his increased role in the Heat’s offensive attack.

“I pretty much embrace it now,” Richardson said of being Miami’s leading man on offense, per Winderman. “I had a whole summer of it and at times it was like that last year. So I’m pretty much used to it.”

Woj: Teams Will Re-Engage On Butler When Wolves' Asking Price Gets 'More Realistic'

  • Wojnarowski also expects the Clippers to “be heard from again” in the Jimmy Butler sweepstakes, though the ESPN scribe expects many other potential trade partners to re-engage the Timberwolves once Minnesota gets “more realistic” about its asking price.

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