Thunder Rumors

FC Barcelona Exec 'Upset' About Losing Abrines

  • FC Barcelona executive Manel Arroyo said the team is “upset” about losing Alex Abrines, even though he understands the allure of playing in the NBA, according to Erik Horne of The Oklahoman. Abrines left the Spanish club in July to sign a three-year deal worth roughly $17.1MM with Oklahoma City. Horne adds that the move probably wouldn’t have happened if Kevin Durant had remained with the Thunder. “Sometimes it is a situation where we are discussing how we manage the future of the team and how we must be the model of the other basketball teams because for the players the target is always to be in the United States,” Arroyo said. “Clearly when he [Abrines] receives a call and proposal from the NBA, he wants to be in the main league in the basketball world.”

NBA Teams With Full Rosters

While NBA teams are limited to carrying 15 players on their regular-season rosters (with a few exceptions), roster limits expand to 20 players during the offseason. The five extra roster slots allow clubs to bring in veterans hopeful of earning a place on the regular-season roster, or young players who may eventually be ticketed for D-League assignments.

Most teams will fill up their 20-man rosters for training camp, but at this point in the NBA offseason, it can be difficult to determine which clubs still have room on their rosters. Many potential camp invitees have reportedly reached agreements with teams, but those signings haven’t yet been officially announced.

By our count, there are currently just two team at the 20-man offseason roster limit. One is the 76ers, who were at the 20-man limit for much of the offseason before waiving Carl Landry and Tibor Pleiss. Since then, they’ve added Elton Brand and Cat Barber, though it appears only 11 of the club’s 20 players have fully guaranteed salaries for 2016/17.

Meanwhile, on their official website, the Nuggets list 14 players who have guaranteed contracts, plus Axel Toupane, JaKarr Sampson, and D.J. Kennedy, who are on non-guaranteed or partially-guaranteed deals. In addition to those 17 players, the team has also reportedly reached agreements with Nate Wolters, Robbie Hummel, and Jarnell Stokes, bringing Denver’s total roster count to 20.

Still, not all of Denver’s signings are official, and even once they are, the Nuggets could easily make room for another player by cutting a non-guaranteed salary from their books. The same can be said for Philadelphia. While their rosters may technically be “full,” it’s not as if the Nuggets and the Sixers don’t have the flexibility to replace a camp invitee with a veteran free agent, if they so choose.

A more productive way of determining which teams’ rosters are “full” at this point in the offseason might be to examine the number of guaranteed salaries on their books. The deadline for teams to stretch the 2016/17 salary of a waived player is now behind us, so any team that cuts a player with a guaranteed salary won’t be able to reduce that cap hit unless the player agrees to a buyout. Most teams are reluctant to add much dead money to their cap with such a move, so if a club has 15 guaranteed contracts on its cap, we can assume its regular-season roster is fairly set, barring a trade or a surprise cut.

Here are the NBA teams that currently have 15 (or more) guaranteed salaries on their roster:

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Alex Roig: Three Trade Ideas For Thunder

  • Alex Roig of DailyThunder.com proposes three possible trades for the Thunder that could push the team back into contention in the Western Conference. While Roig’s ideas are probably long shots, with Paul George and Jimmy Butler among the suggested targets, it’s worth keeping in mind that Oklahoma City has a crowded frontcourt and an extra guaranteed salary, making Enes Kanter an intriguing trade chip.

Salary Cap Snapshot: Oklahoma City Thunder

With the free agent signing period winding down and teams looking ahead to the preseason, we at Hoops Rumors will be tracking the Salary Cap figures for each team around the league. These posts will be maintained throughout the season once financial data is reported. They will be located on the sidebar throughout the year, once all the teams’ cap figures have been relayed. You can always check RosterResource.com for up-to-date rosters for each franchise, with the Thunder’s team page accessible here.

Here’s a breakdown of where the Thunder currently stand financially:


Guaranteed Salary

Total Guaranteed Salary= $91,339,949


Cash Sent Out Via Trade: $0 [Amount Remaining $3.5MM]

Cash Received Via Trade: $0 [Amount Remaining $3.5MM]


Payroll Exceptions Available

  • Trade Exception — $4,936,529 (Ersan Ilyasova trade; used portion to acquire Doug McDermott) — Expires on 11/1/17
  • Room Exception — $2,898,000

Total Projected Payroll: $91,339,949

Salary Cap: $94,143,000

Estimated Available Cap Space: $2,803,051
(Note: team would have to renounce trade exception to use cap space)

Luxury Tax Threshold: $113,287,000

Amount Below Luxury Tax: $21,947,051

Last Updated: 3/1/17

The Basketball Insiders salary pages and The Vertical’s salary database were used in the creation of this post.

Thunder Notes: Griffin, Mohammed, McGary

With Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical having suggested on multiple occasions this offseason that the Thunder are looking ahead and identifying Blake Griffin as a potential free agent target in the summer of 2017, it came as no surprise that Griffin was on the receiving end of a subtle – and humorous – recruiting pitch during a recent event at the University of Oklahoma.

As relayed by Kurt Helin of Pro Basketball Talk, Griffin tactfully blew off the mention of the Thunder at the alumni event, but it certainly won’t be the last time someone broaches the idea of a homecoming for the Oklahoma native. For what it’s worth, the Clippers reportedly remain very confident that Griffin will remain in Los Angeles for the long term.

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Serge Ibaka “Never Asked” Thunder For Trade

While plenty of trades were completed on draft night earlier this summer, none were bigger than the four-player deal that saw Serge Ibaka head to Orlando in exchange for Victor Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova, and No. 11 overall pick Domantas Sabonis. In his last season with the Thunder, Ibaka reportedly wasn’t thrilled with his declining role, but in a piece for The Cauldron at SI.com, the veteran big man writes that he didn’t make a trade request.

“I never asked to be traded, even though there was a lot of media conjecture that I was unhappy with my role,” Ibaka wrote. “I had an exit meeting with Billy Donovan and Sam Presti after the season, and both went well. But this is still a business, everybody has to do what’s best for them, and I let my agent deal with the business side of things. I just focus on basketball. I’m not the kind of guy who’s going to go in and ask for a trade, and I would have been happy staying with the Thunder. Playing in the NBA was my dream, and I’d be happy playing anywhere.”

Although Ibaka makes it clear that he didn’t ask the Thunder to trade him, it sounds as if agent Andy Miller was at least somewhat involved in finding his client a new home. In the days after the deal was completed, Miller told Chris Mannix of The Vertical that Oklahoma City had “overpromised and under-delivered” on a larger role for Ibaka. Assuming Ibaka agreed with that sentiment, it’s perhaps not surprising that he sounds excited by the idea of getting a fresh start in Orlando, suggesting in his SI.com piece that he feels like a rookie again.

“I’m thrilled to be in Orlando,” Ibaka wrote. “I know that might sound crazy to some people, that I’m excited to go from a contender like the Thunder to a rebuilding team, one that hasn’t made the playoffs in four years, but playing now for Frank Vogel, a coach who prides himself on defense, is very exciting for me. We have a core of like-minded, young, athletic players, which is going to be very fun. We are an old-school, smashmouth team, and I can’t wait to don a Magic uniform on opening night.”

Ibaka’s contract is set to expire after 2017, so the Magic will eventually have to work out an extension or a new free agent contract with him if they hope to keep him in the fold for more than one season.

Nuggets Trade Joffrey Lauvergne To Thunder

12:48pm: The Thunder and Nuggets have each issued press releases confirming the deal.

12:25pm: The two draft picks heading to the Nuggets are 2017 second-rounders, according to Royce Young of ESPN.com (via Twitter). That means Denver will be receiving the Grizzlies’ pick and the Thunder’s pick.

12:01pm: The Nuggets and Thunder have agreed to terms on a trade, according to reports from Chris Dempsey of The Denver Post and Adrian Wojnarwoski of The Vertical. Per Dempsey and Wojnarowski, Denver has agreed to send Joffrey Lauvergne to Oklahoma City in exchange for two future second-round picks."<strong

Lauvergne, who will turn 25 in a month, was a role player for the Nuggets last year, appearing in 59 contests and starting 15 of them. For the season, he averaged 17.6 MPG, chipping in 7.9 PPG, 4.9 RPG, and 0.9 APG for Denver, while shooting 51.3% from the floor and 89.9% from the free-throw line. Lauvergne also played for France in the Olympics this summer.

The Thunder figure to work Lauvergne into their frontcourt rotation off the bench, with Serge Ibaka and Nazr Mohammed no longer on the roster. Steven Adams, Enes Kanter, Domantas Sabonis, Nick Collison, Andre Roberson, and Ersan Ilyasova are among the other players who will look to earn minutes at the four or five this season in OKC, while Mitch McGary may not end up on the regular-season roster, as ESPN’s Royce Young tweets. The Thunder already had 15 guaranteed salaries on their cap for 2016/17 prior to Lauvergne’s arrival.

Meanwhile, with Lauvergne no longer in the mix in Denver, the Nuggets now have 14 guaranteed salaries on their books for ’16/17, plus JaKarr Sampson, D.J. Kennedy, and Axel Toupane on non-guaranteed contracts.

The Thunder have just enough room to fit Lauvergne’s salary in under their cap without waiving or trading any other players. Per Basketball Insiders’ data, Oklahoma City’s team salary for 2016/17 was at $92,403,967 before the trade. Lauvergne is on the books for $1,709,719 this season, while the league-wide salary cap is $94,143,000 — the Thunder should be able to complete the deal with about $30K in cap space to spare.

Lauvergne’s salary for this season is only half guaranteed so far, with $854,859 still non-guaranteed. However, the fact that the Thunder were willing to give up two draft picks for him suggests that the team doesn’t intend to waive him before guaranteeing the rest of that salary.

It’s not clear yet which picks the Nuggets will be receiving in the swap, but OKC had extra second-rounders in 2017 (from Memphis; protected from 31-35) and 2018 (from Boston; protected from 31-55).

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Thunder Retain Huestis' D-League Rights Unless He's Waived

The fact that the Greensboro Swarm, the Hornets‘ new D-League affiliate, selected the rights to Josh Huestis in Wednesday’s D-League expansion draft raised some eyebrows, since the former first-round pick is currently on the Thunder‘s NBA roster. However, as Erik Horne of The Oklahoman explains, the Thunder can still assign Huestis to their D-League affiliate, the Oklahoma City Blue, as long as Huestis remains on the NBA roster. If OKC waived Huestis, the team would also surrender his D-League rights, with the Swarm getting first dibs.

Details On Cash Used In 2016 Draft Trades

As our list of 2016 offseason trades shows, five of the deals agreed upon on draft night this year featured one team sending cash to the other. The NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement allows clubs to include cash payments, but only up to a certain amount.

In the 2016/17 league year, teams are allowed to receive a total of $3.5MM in trades, and can also send out $3.5MM in trades. Those limits are separate, so a team that sends $3.5MM in a deal and then later receives $3.5MM doesn’t get a fresh, new slate — that club is capped out for the league year. In 2014/15, the limit for cash sent and received in trades was $3.4MM.

Since the league year ends on June 30, teams that hadn’t taken advantage of those cash allowances earlier in the season will often use remaining cash during the draft to move up or to snag an extra pick. Many of the cash details on those draft-day deals for 2016 were previously reported. For instance, we already knew about the following payments:

  • Warriors sent $2.4MM to Bucks to acquire No. 38 overall pick (Patrick McCaw).
  • Trail Blazers sent $1.2MM (and a 2019 second-round pick) to Magic to acquire No. 47 overall pick (Jake Layman).
  • Cavaliers sent approximately $2.5MM to Hawks to acquire No. 54 overall pick (Kay Felder).

Based on those numbers, it appears the Warriors got a much better deal from the Bucks than the Cavaliers did from the Hawks. Of course, if the Cavs badly wanted Felder, the cost to move into the draft was hardly exorbitant — Atlanta likely asked the Cavs for the maximum amount of money they could send, since Cleveland used over $900K in a separate trade earlier in the year.

In addition to those three swaps, two other draft-night deals featured money changing hands, and Eric Pincus of Basketball Insiders has the details on those payments, along with several others from the 2015/16 league year. According to Pincus, these are the details on the other two draft trades involving cash:

Once again, one of these deals looks far more favorable than the other, with the Thunder paying a fraction of what the Nets did for a second-round pick. But again, the available players and interested teams essentially set the market for these cash payments.

In the case of the Nets/Jazz deal, Brooklyn clearly wanted to make sure not to miss out on Whitehead, and the team was willing to pay a relatively significant amount to secure him. The Thunder, meanwhile, offered all their available remaining cash to the Nuggets for the 56th pick, and Denver likely had no better offer and no player targeted at that spot — so the Nuggets took what they could get.

Be sure to check out Pincus’ piece at Basketball Insiders for more thorough details of how teams spent and received cash in trades during the 2015/16 league year.

Extension Candidate: Steven Adams

The Thunder locked up their top extension candidate of the offseason earlier this month, when they inked Russell Westbrook to a new three-year deal that will keep him under team control though at least the 2017/18 season. Still, even after extending Westbrook, the Thunder have more candidates for new deals than virtually any other team in the NBA.Steven Adams vertical

Arthur Hill of Hoops Rumors recently examined the case for a new contract for Victor Oladipo, who arrived in Oklahoma City as a part of the Serge Ibaka trade and is entering the final year of his rookie deal. Like Oladipo, Andre Roberson is also extension-eligible for the first time this offseason, as his rookie contract nears its end. With Kevin Durant no longer a member of the Thunder, the team figures to rely on Oladipo and Roberson to take on larger roles in the short term than they otherwise would have, and may be counting on them to be long-term pieces as well.

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With Westbrook locked up though, the title of the Thunder’s most important extension candidate now belongs to Steven Adams. A former lottery pick, Adams single-handedly salvaged the James Harden trade for Oklahoma City, and has evolved into one of the NBA’s more steady and reliable centers.

In 2015/16, Adams averaged a modest 8.0 PPG to go along with 6.7 RPG, 1.1 BPG, and a .613 FG%. Those numbers aren’t eye-popping, and his career .551 FT% is a cause for some concern. However, Adams’ showing in the postseason provided a better picture of his importance to the Thunder. In 18 playoff games, the New Zealand native saw his minutes per game increase from 25.2 to 30.7, and he nearly averaged a double-double in those contests, with 10.1 PPG and 9.5 RPG.

Durant’s departure means that there will be a few more shots to go around on offense, and the loss of Ibaka will put more pressure on the Thunder’s remaining interior defenders, so the franchise may be expecting a major step forward from Adams on both ends of the floor. The former University of Pittsburgh standout just turned 23 last month, so his best years should still be ahead of him, and he’s in a great position to have a breakout season in 2016/17. Which raises the question: Should the Thunder lock him up now to avoid having him reach restricted free agency next summer?

To answer that question, it’s worth considering what an extension for Adams would cost. A huge 2016/17 season would certainly make him a lock for a maximum-salary deal next July, but given the jump the salary cap took this year, and the free agent prices we saw last month, Adams may not even need to take a significant step forward this season to be worth the max — that may already be his price, given how valuable young rim protectors are. With so many teams opening up significant chunks of cap room every summer, Adams likely wouldn’t have any trouble finding a max offer next year.

If the Thunder assume it will take a max deal to lock up Adams, there are plenty of arguments for waiting until next summer to complete an extension. First and foremost, the former 12th overall pick would have a cap hold worth just below $8MM as a restricted free agent. As we saw with the Pistons and Andre Drummond – as well as the Wizards and Bradley Beal – keeping an RFA’s cap hold on the books for a little while, having already agreed to a max deal with that player, allows a team to maintain significant cap flexibility and pursue other free agents.

The NBA’s most recent salary cap projection for 2017/18, which is probably a little on the cautious side, would result in a max salary for Adams starting at around $24MM. In other words, Oklahoma City would give up $16MM+ in potential salary cap space at the start of free agency by extending Adams this offseason rather than waiting until next summer to make things official.

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For a team that has aspirations of pursuing a major free agent such as Oklahoma native Blake Griffin, that extra cap room could be a huge factor. Depending on how optimistic the Thunder are about landing a big-time free agent, the team could hold off on new deals for Adams, Oladipo, and Roberson in order to maximize 2017’s cap flexibility. Waiting on extensions would also alleviate some risk for the team — OKC wouldn’t want to see a newly-extended player suffer a major injury or take a huge step backward in 2016/17, before that new deal even goes into effect.

Of course, as much as it might make sense from a roster-building perspective for the Thunder to wait until July to lock up Adams, the team must also be cognizant of how things transpired this summer with Durant. Adams would be a restricted free agent in 2017, so the Thunder wouldn’t risk losing him to a rival suitor as long as they’re willing to offer the max. But Durant’s departure means the franchise may want to redouble its efforts to make its own core players feel secure.

Westbrook’s extension, which gave him a pay increase of about $9MM for the coming season, was a solid start. Getting something done with Adams before they have to do anything might be the next step for the Thunder. It would be a show of good faith for a player who is extremely important to the franchise, and perhaps it would pay dividends down the road — Adams or another star player might factor the club’s willingness to take care of its own into a future free agent decision. And if Adams is willing to compromise by taking a slight hometown discount this fall, that’s all the more reason for OKC to work something out sooner rather than later.

Barring a significant change of direction for the franchise, there’s little doubt that Adams will remain with the Thunder beyond this season, and he’ll likely stick with the team for a few more years. But when and how the two sides finalize his next contract will be fascinating to watch. Signing Adams to a big-money extension this offseason would severely limit the Thunder’s ability to be major players in next summer’s free agency, barring an Enes Kanter trade. But for a team that just lost the longtime face of its franchise, locking up core players sooner rather than later could be a stronger priority than usual this fall.

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