Jordan Hamilton will be working out for NBA teams in Las Vegas tomorrow, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports, and the Timberwolves will be among the teams in attendance, passes along Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities (Twitter links). Any interest Minnesota has in the forward will likely have a hard time amounting to anything as a result of the club’s lack of roster space, adds Wolfson. Here’s more on the Wolves and the Northwest:
- One Eastern Conference coach doesn’t understand the reluctance that the Cavs and Warriors have been showing to give up important pieces to the Timberwolves in exchange for Love, as Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated reveals (via Twitter). “If I’m Golden State, I trade Klay Thompson,” said the unnamed coach. “If I’m Cleveland, I trade Andrew Wiggins. Kevin is that good.”
- Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor spoke with NBA TV’s Steve Smith and said he believes Love will play with the team in training camp but stopped short of ruling out a possible trade, notes Andy Greder of the Pioneer Press. “My preference is Kevin (Love) will come to camp – and I’m sure he will – and play with the team,” explained Taylor. “We are going to look at everything that makes sense that would make our team better, but we are not going to move a superb player like that without getting equal or more value back.“
- Jeff Zillgitt of USA Today recaps the summer that the Jazz have had thus far and explores the impact that rookie head coach Quin Snyder figures to have on the franchise’s progression moving forward.
- Anthony Morrow‘s decision to join the Thunder has the sharpshooting swingman excited, observes Darnell Mayberry of the Oklahoman. In choosing to head to OKC, Morrow elected to pass up on interest from several other teams, “too many teams to name,” as Morrow told Mayberry.
That’s the wolves problem, you don’t get equal or better value when your player is forcing a trade in a contract year.
So they should just give him up for nothing? Which is more or less what Golden State has offered so far. The reported Cavs’ offer of Waiters, Bennett and a first round pick is better, but not by much.
Would you like to look at what teams got in these kind of trades in the past? When your star is forcing his way out you don’t get equal assets you get pennies on the dollar and a little potential for the future that’s it. Wolves are tired of the lotto after a decade of trips, but your star forcing his way out isn’t going to be the move that makes you better and that is what they seem to think they can do. They need to bite the bullet and get some value for him while he still has it, waiting for the trade deadline or a sign in trade doesn’t get them a better offer. Very few teams have a chance to resign love. The wolves can collect a few young assets and picks and try and right the ship or they can stubbornly hold out and continue to hurt their franchise the choice is theirs. Only one of these teams assets begin to expire and its not GSW and not the Cavs.
These offers are crappy enough that I would have no problem waiting until the trade deadline if needed. They can’t get much worse and I think the offers can get a lot better depending on how desperate teams get. What if Cleveland struggles out of the gate? You don’t think LeBron would be on them to do whatever it takes to get Love? Ditto for other teams interested in him.
“I would have no problem waiting until the trade deadline if needed. They can’t get much worse and I think the offers can get a lot better depending on how desperate teams get.”
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking too.
Man, now that Cleveland supposedly is willing to include Wiggins in a deal, care to reassess your thinking?
Not at all it’s still a stupid trade and likely has no truth to it. If the Cavs offered Wiggins, Bennett, a pick, and that valuable Hayward contract Love would be a Cav already. There is a reason this trade rumor is being peddled by the joke that is Bleacher Report and not a single credible source is willing to touch it. Right now your getting fair offers from 2 teams, wait for the trade deadline and you will be sorely disappointed at the offers you get, the wolves continue to over play their hand.
It’s not from Bleacher Report. It’s from the Cleveland newspaper. And no Wiggins, no deal. Simple as that.
It’s from a no name wanna be, it’s being peddled as a national story by bleacher report. Bottom line is no one with any credibility is willing to touch the rumor and if that offer was made Flip would be knocking over tables to sign the paperwork. Good luck over playing your hand as always. There is a reason this sorry team is setting records for consecutive lotto appearances.
Whatever. We’ll see who’s right. Bottom line is if Cleveland wants Love, they’ll have to include Wiggins. Simple as that.
Until the Wolves inevitably blow it and the sign and trade him to us next summer for a late 1st rounder an scrubs.
Keep dreaming. After all, what else can a Clevelander do?
It’s not just the Cleveland Morning Journal anymore. link to twitter.com… This thing is moving forward.
Understand, Cleveland does NOT have any leverage. If they want
Love they HAVE to trade for him. Same goes with Golden State. The Wolves may lose him next year but neither Cleveland nor GS will get him if he goes to free agency. Basically, they are all playing chicken because if nothing gets done then none of those teams will have him.
How do you figure this? They’ll have enough cap space.
Cleveland has plenty of leverage their assets don’t begin to loose major value in a few months at the start of the season. Their assets don’t expire at the end of the year. Cleveland will go into next year with around 10m in cap space at the moment, they’ll have a Hayward contract with a 10.5m guarantee, and several other moves they can make to re-position their books. They also have a major advantage in they are one of the only teams that has a chance of signing love long term. Even if Cleveland was unable to completely clear their books there is always sign and trade option available as they will still have assets to accomplish it. The wolves can trade him where ever they want at the end of the year love chooses where he want to be there will be no extension. If love decides after this year that he wants to play in Cleveland that is where he will be the moves are there.
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Wolves have Zero leverage, it reduces each and every day. Kevin Love is GOING to Cleveland next year regardless of where he is traded. Simple as that. Why trade Wiggins, player x, and a 1st round pick or two for Love when he’ll be had for nothing more than $ next season.
How do you figure? They will be over the cap so they can’t give him a big salary? Do you really think Kevin Love is going to give up $20+ million a year at age 26 to sign with Cleveland just to play with LeBron James? I don’t buy it.
They have 46.5-47 MM on the books for next season. And an expiring contract in Thompson. Where’s the lack of cap space for Next season?
link to hoopsrumors.com…
as well
They’ll have to clear some serious cap space to do it since Kyrie re-signed at the max. Also, Love and his agent prefer a trade so he can opt in on 2015-2016. In the new CBA in 2016 max contracts are going to increase, so he’ll get paid more + with the same team that has his current Bird rights. So really, the Wolves have quite some leverage.
They’ll move 1 player and be fine – Tristan Thompson, expiring contract.
I’ll also refer you to… link to hoopsrumors.com…
Good point, forgot about this. But it shouldn’t mean the Wolves are/should just give him away.
I’m not saying that the Wolves should just give him away. I’m saying Cleveland shouldn’t sell the farm to buy a cow. Or however that metaphor goes. Sell the car to buy gas.