2:03pm: The Knicks have confirmed that Noah underwent a left knee arthroscopy today to remove a loose body (Twitter link). According to the team, Noah will be re-evaluated in three to four weeks, though I imagine the center would only try to get back on the court this season if the Knicks push for a playoff spot. They’re currently four games back of the No. 8 seed, with four teams to pass.
11:01am: Knicks center Joakim Noah is expected to undergo arthroscopic knee surgery, which would sideline him for the remainder of the 2016/17 season, league sources tell Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical (Twitter link). Noah’s injury, which has kept him out of action for most of February, had been classified as hamstring soreness, but it seems his knee is an issue as well.
Noah, who turned 32 on Saturday, signed a four-year, $72MM contract with the Knicks last summer. New York received some criticism at the time for that deal, and it doesn’t look any better now than it did then. Noah has struggled to produce for his new team this season, averaging 5.0 PPG and 8.7 RPG in 46 games (all starts). As NBA.com’s advanced stats show, the Knicks have a -6.0 net rating with Noah on the court, compared to -2.5 when he’s on the bench.
Assuming Noah is indeed ruled out for the season, he’ll join Brandon Jennings in having played his last game for the Knicks this year. Unlike Jennings though, Noah won’t be released, since he still has three more years left on his contract.
Let’s give a player on the wrong side of 30 coming off a injury riddled season in which he didn’t get double digit rebounds or points a 72 million dollar deal, 2nd dumbest franchise in the NBA
Wrong. THE dumbest, and I’m a knick fan
I’m a Knicks fan as well but the Kings organization makes us look like a Greg Popovich organization
You could merge the Knicks and Kings, give them a 30 man roster and a 230M payroll and they still couldn’t crack the top 4 in their conference.
In Noah’s slight defense, he’s never been a scorer and has been valued more for his playmaking ability at the 5 (along with his once consistent rebounding and defensive efforts). I agree that the signing was stupid no matter how you look at it though. Way too much for a guy who showed signs of decline and injury and didn’t do too much.
What moves has Phil made that actually worked out? I don’t count drafting KP since that was basically luck. He would have drafted Okafor or Russell if we picked 2 or 3.
I guess he did make the Hernangomez trade. All other moves have been crap…including his coaching hires. He’s gotta go.
Phil will be looked at as a god once KP hits his stride, only bad move was all the money he gave Noah but I still believe Noah can be alot like what Jerome Williams was for Toronto back in his day next season and beyond. Knicks need to just drop Rose, hes still a good player but he can’t shoot and is making the Knicks stagnant on offense. Melo can at least spread the floor, its impossible to win in this day and age with a point guard who can’t shoot, the Wolves would be way better if Rubio cOuld actually knock down jumpshots consistently and make defenses respect his shot but they don’t, so KAT and Wiggins alot of times have to go ISO and use their skill to score.
Even at that slot in the draft taking KP was a gamble that he should get credit for. He wouldn’t have taken him at 2 or 3 but many other teams wouldn’t have taken him in the 4th. I would count extending Carmelo as a bad move and insisting on the triangle as well.
His drafts reflect a very small sample size (he inherited 1 draft pick in 3 years), but you to give him a good grade there. He traded for a few others, and got Willy to go with Porzingis.
Multi-year FA contracts (Melo aside) are mixed. Only Noah and L.Thomas would qualify as bad mulit-year FA signings. R.Lopez, KO, Kuz and C.Lee would go in the good category. The one years all made sense really in terms of taking a look, and cost nothing. The real shortfall here is off of the expectation that he’d attract elite FAs (hasn’t come close to happening).
His trades have been bad to horrific.
There is a god
The contract was horrible, I wouldnt say give up on the guy but he should def be part of the bench next season because he can’t play starter minutes anymore. Its all about further developing Porzingis and Hernangomez, if I am the Knicks i take a look at Trey Burke to run the point guard, the kid can shoot and run an offense he just needs the playing time to make it happen. Keep Melo,Porzingis,Hernangomez,Lee,Kyle, Kuzminskas, and Noah(off the bench). The Knicks need a shooter at the point Burke fits the bill.
It’s dead weight, and the price to get rid of it way too high. But with the cap going up again this year (likely into to 105 mm range), it shouldn’t kill us. It’s offset by Porzingis, Willy, KO and Kuz making below market for the next couple of years. Holiday is a keeper, though unsigned, they have early bird rights on him. Those 5 guys could make less than Noah combined next year and can all be rotation players.
The key to starting a rebuild is trading Melo, without taking back long term salary and getting a young guy and/or a decent pick. If they can unload Thomas in the process great. Lee had a lot of suitors last year and should be able to be dealt for something.
The key to starting a rebuild is firing Phil.
Trading Melo is a great 2nd move though.
I don’t think Dolan will fire Phil, and that might be a good thing (any successor will look like Isiah Thomas, and might even be Isiah Thomas – and it won’t be anyone that Dolan won’t step over in any event).
Phil should just hire a real GM (not a marketing guy like Steve Mills) to lead in the player personnel areas (draft, FAs and trades). This is a different job than it was 20 years ago. It’s now about perspiration more than inspiration. Phil never had the strategic skills, attention to detail and work ethic required, and certainly doesn’t now at his age and with his 11 championship ego.