More and more teams that have spoken to the Pistons recently are saying that they believe Detroit won’t discourage inquiries on Andre Drummond this week, according to ESPN’s Marc Stein (via Twitter). While Stein’s report doesn’t suggest the Pistons are shopping their standout center, it sounds like Drummond isn’t necessarily untouchable.
ESPN’s Zach Lowe reported last week that the Pistons had “quietly explored” the trade market for Drummond, but came away underwhelmed by what teams might be willing to offer. At that point, Lowe classified a Drummond trade as an “extreme long shot.”
It’s not clear if Detroit’s stance has changed at all since then or if the team is simply doing due diligence. Stan Van Gundy has suggested that no one is necessarily off-limits if the Pistons have an opportunity to improve their long-term outlook, and it’s possible the offers for Drummond have gotten a little stronger with the deadline approaching, but it would still be a surprise to see the recently re-signed 23-year-old on the move this week.
For what it’s worth, a report earlier today suggested that the Raptors made a pitch for Drummond centered around Jonas Valanciunas before they acquired Serge Ibaka from Orlando.
Drummond to Boston for the Nets pick. This is our chance to get a star pg in this years draft. I’m more than ok gambling if it means a chance to be relevant again. It also opens us up to flip Reggie for a center.
There is no way you get the 2017 nets pick for Drummond. If that pick was on the table for that quality of player, a trade would have been made already. The nets pick this year is only moving if a Paul George type is coming back. There are fewer than 15 players in the NBA that fit that bill, and Drummond is not close
The Pistons lack scoring right now. Jackson could be better if he had consistently hot shooters/slashers he could dish to.
And which rotation player gets traded for Drummond then? The Celtics own pick and the Memphis/Clippers picks they have isn’t enough for him. Some sort of combination of Jackson/Young/Rozier/Yabusele/Nader/Zizic isn’t enough either.
I don’t think Drummond is the dominant player they thought he could be. In the last few games before the break, he missed so many high percentage shots, and their offense already seems stagnant. They would need to get three good pieces though and a draft pick for it to make sense.
so he’s not a dominant player but he’s worth three good players and a pick?
To offset the salary, I think it would have to be!
I do not think its wise to trade your only All Star on the team.
Tell that to Sacramento.
People have to remember that Drummond is only 23…he’s still a young buck who’s never played with a good PG or PF that move the ball well…
I think Drummond could net a similar, if not slightly better package than that of the cousins deal. But he is not a superstar. Seeing that the celtics seem to be in the middle of this rumor as well, they could probably get it done with the 2018 nets pick, a second this year and someone like rozier. if they are looking for more assets than that, think the celtics 2018 and grizzlies 2019 first rounders, rozier and maybe a couple of prospects from Maine or overseas. That caps the potential of any one player, but the sheer amount coming back may be of interest if they are taking part in a full rebuild.
I think a more fair trade would be 2018 Net’s 1st Round pick, Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart.
Drummond is a stud, an all star and only 23 years old.
Drop smart and replace with Rozier.
None of the trades you guys suggested are legal. Celtics would have to send out about $20mm in salary to acquire Drummond
Some combination of Amir, Zeller and Swedish Larry would have to be involved.
Your using the Cousins’ deal as a base for a Drummond deal when everyone in the entire league knows Sacramento got robbed. At least the flaw against Cousins is his attitude. As far as the public knows, Drummond doesn’t have that issue. Granted he’s not nearly as good as Cousins but he’s one of the few legitimate 20-20 guys in the league. The only upside in either of those two trade proposals is the Nets pick. Rozier is going to be a career backup PG, the Memphis pick is not nearly as valuable as Celtics fans make it out to be, and the Celtics own pick is not as valuable since its a late (after 20) pick.
I think Rozier has a decent starting PG ceiling. Like Kemba Walker before he made the all star game.
Eh I’m not as sold. That’s purely my opinion, but I think he caps out as a good backup PG or a low end starting PG.
To the Cavs!
Ya to the Cavs trade Thompson and a 1st round pick
Drummond removed his Pistons info from twitter and retweeted Isiah Thomas’s big eyes thing that he posted last night, which he previously did before they signed Horford.
And his profile pic is him waving goodbye.
The Cousins trade is apparently fueling the delusions of the Boston fan base (as though they needed fueling). The Nets 2017 pick is as likely to be 4th as 1st, and, in either case, there is nobody in this draft (or on the Celtics roster, for that matter, including the little PG) close to Drumond as a trade asset, even adjusting for salary. Stan isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but even his stupidity can’t rise to a level that he’d give away an elite big man at age 23 (any package with the Nets 2017 pick is a give away). I predicted months ago that Boston would not make a trade and I’ll stay with that.
Really? Fultz, Bradley, Zizic, Rozier and 2 future firsts doesn’t get you Drummond. Ok.
It might not. But how did you get Fultz’ rights without using the Nets 2017 pick? It’s only a 25% chance in any event. But they might bite on a package with that pick as a lead piece. But, absolutely, they may not. Drumond is 23, and a big is likely to have a longer career than a guard, so he can be part of a rebuild as easily as Fultz (and it’s easier to find PGs, look at how many good ones there are around the league vs elite defensive/rebounding bigs).
In any event, volume isn’t that important in getting an elite player. It’s the top 2, then top 3 maybe, pieces that have to work better for a rebuild than Drumond would. How many young players can you invest minutes and significant roles in such that they’re worth keeping around longer term at FA prices?
Sorry, I meant any package without (not with) the 2017 Nets pick would be a give away. But that pick isn’t equivalent to any remote pick (which can fall anywhere, even the Nets 2018 isn’t a guaranteed top 10 pick). It’s a top 4, and is a great piece. Bradley is valuable as a spin off asset, not someone a rebuilding team will want to pay after next year. Zizic/Rozier/other picks – all in the eyes of the beholder, but Zizic gives then a replacement center. So Zizic (if they like him) and the 2017 Nets pick could be a reasonable starting place.
No way should the pistols trade Andre. As almost everyone has stated he’s one of the last 20/20 bigs in the game. He’s the face of the franchise well liked in the area and in the locker room. If you look,at the numbers the pistols,are better with Reggie Jackson on the bench and ish Smith ( who I personally think is a quality facilitator ). You flip Reggie for a stretch 4 who gives one of the worst 3 point teams in the league the ablility to spread the floor and force teams to not crowd the paint. Give Andre more oops and and one on one match ups because he is not a bad passer by any means.