12:21pm: Trade talks between the Nuggets and Sixers regarding Okafor have stalled, according to Keith Pompey of The Philadelphia Inquirer. He notes that they could always start again, but for now the teams have ceased discussions about Okafor.
8:58am: Philadelphia has talked to the Bulls, Pelicans, Trail Blazers and Nuggets about a possible trade involving Jahlil Okafor, tweets Alex Kennedy of Hoops Hype. He adds that discussions are ongoing with the trade deadline just 11 days away.
The second-year center was held out of Saturday’s game because of the possibility of a deal. Talks with Chicago and New Orleans have reportedly become more advanced in recent days, and Okafor believes a trade will be completed soon.
The Sixers are rumored to want at least one future first-round pick in exchange for Okafor. All four franchises involved in trade talks have all of their future first-rounders available, and the Bulls are owed the Kings’ pick this year if it falls out of the top 10.
Kennedy notes that the Lakers aren’t among the teams actively trying to obtain Okafor (Twitter link). L.A. recently benched starting center Timofey Mozgov and would seem to have a need for a young big man with Okafor’s skill level. However, the Lakers are limited with draft picks because they already owe this year’s first-rounder to Philadelphia if it falls outside the top three and they agreed to send their 2019 first-rounder to Orlando.
Sixers coach Brett Brown said he didn’t play Okafor on Saturday so it wouldn’t “complicate things” before a potential trade. The team obviously wants to avoid any threat of injury for Okafor, who played just 53 games last year and had season-ending knee surgery last March.
“As the All-Star break gets closer, possible deals have more of a chance,” Brown told Jessica Camerato of CSNPhilly. “Although speculation is rampant all throughout stuff, you learn that as the deadline gets closer, the reality that something could happen goes to a higher level. When we get to this stage of the calendar, it influences those types of decisions tonight.”
Philadelphia has two more games before the deadline — Monday at Charlotte and Wednesday at Boston — and Brown indicated Okafor may be held out of both.
He does feel like the odd man out. He and Noel were the odd ones out at the start of the season but Noel has redeemed himself. So I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to the Bulls for a first round pick and one of if not both Valentine and McDermit
Lol the Bulls aren’t trading a first round pick AND Valentine AND McDermott for Okafor. Okafor isn’t that valuable, the guy can’t play defense.
Okafor isn’t that valuable? The Bulls have nothing to offer other than Butler, and that would cost too much for the Sixers. They can keep their garbage and mid round pick. Of the teams involved in the rumors, the Bulls have the least to offer. At 30 min per Okafor he puts up 18 & 8 just showing up. He’s young and can improve on his D.
It’s Bobby Portis
He’s really not that valuable. He’s a good but not great player who doesn’t fit on his own team, and whose skill set is a better fit for 1995 than it is for 2017.
That’s not to say he’s void of value, but let’s be real. Most reports said on Monday that the 76ers were holding out for the Pelicans to add Alex Ajinca. Does a future 1st that likely won’t be in the lottery coupled with an 8th year pro who has averaged 5 points and 4 rebounds for his career sound like Okafor has much value?
If the Bulls offered Grant, Portis, and the 76ers choice between McDermott and Valentine – it’d be a comparable deal. It might even be a better deal if the 76ers are interested in improving their depth to make a run at the 8th seed – which doesn’t sound like a big deal, but might be seen as one by a franchise that wants to show people they’re not a doormat any longer.
The reports on Monday had nothing to do with the 6ers insisting on Ajinca.the reports were that a deal was being held up by the protection attached to the draft pick.
No Okafor is not that valauble.. and only has a slightly higher value on teams like the pelicans or lakers that have Forwards and Centers to protect the Rim and J.O. AWEFUL defense… in his best offensive games this yr he was a -17 while on the floor… he gets two give four away… Bulls would be wise to part w/ McDermott, Portis and a 2nd Rndr..and maybe a chip in piece (although I see Miriotic instead of portis, but sixers may request Portis in stead…really thats been the problem all yr… NOEL had zero value coming off the injury and being a FA but it became obvious that Emibiid is also a great permiter defender who helps well down low…and okafor was on an island…and it wasnt the good kind we usually talk about in sports… it was horrible…aweful…once they saw what they wanted with Noel pairing… which was they help each other on Defense and that both could play permiter Defense…it was locked in like most thought all along… Embiid/Noel pairing best for Sixers
Noel and Embiid are never on the court at the same time. Not exactly a pairing. And to say Noel didn’t have trade value is inaccurate. RFAs have tremendous value
A first round pick AND McDermott and/or Valentine??? Jesus, glad you’re not the Bulls’ GM.
This guy is alright. I mean, he’s not even good enough to start on the 76’ers. Now, I realize they have a big man log jam, but still.
He’s pretty good on offense, but doesn’t play any defense. The Bulls already have a plethora of players like this already. They need defenders. That’s why I don’t want this guy.
If I was the Bulls’ GM, I wouldn’t give up much, and definitely NOT a first round pick.
I think Denver should put a package together including someone like Gary Harris or maybe Will Barton or one of the other SG’s they have and maybe throw in Nurkic and a first
No way the Nuggets trade Harris as part of an Okafor deal. Even Barton, Nurkic, and a first is too much. Nurkic and Barton are just as valuable as Okafor, they just don’t have the playing time to make that known/put up the numbers that they could.
apparently not too valuable if they’re not playing much
Nurkic is playing behind Jokic and Faried and has been hurt by Denver going small ball. Barton is playing behind Murray and Harris (at the 2) while also being stuck behind Gallinari and Chandler. Even Malone said he wishes he could get Barton more minutes but the depth of the Nuggets is preventing that to some degree.
Agreed. The Nuggets are involved as a third team. I bet their Memphis pick would be involved, and they would get something from the Pelicans or Bulls.
Gary Harris and Will Barton are both way better players and more valuable than Okafor. Nurkic would make sense because he’s almost out of the rotation, but why would you trade a guy you can get a first round pick and a player for just to get Okafor? There’s gonna be a better deal on the table for Nurkic. Plus he plays defense which Okafor does not. Other than Nikola Jokic, Gary Harris and Barton are probably the most untouchable players on that roster and if anyone gets traded it’s gotta be Wilson Chandler or Nurkic.
your not getting a first rnd pick unless it 28-32 for barton or harris lol .. Nurkic either.. to slow in todays game..he gets you a late 2nd…
Faried is still the most valuable chip with Chandler even or slighty above that
There are 30 teams in the NBA….
Yeah i Know it was a mistype…but Sure you got me lol
Noel and Emibiid are on the court at the same time in small samples bud…especially when Holmes is available..I have watched every game.. every nite… if you want to say so far the sample size has been been small, that would be accurate, but… to say never…thats just kinda of a (not trying to insult ) non-intelligent look into the numbers of when they are on the court together…and it was one of the reason’s embiid said he couldnt wait till him and noel could play together at the same-time…and they have… at the begginning of the season no..of course not ( but you got me on ten key pad typo lol …sorry numbers are close together lol )
ALSO No…at the beginning of the season, it was widely reported the sixers were discouraged at Noel’s Value… one of the reason’s was he was currently injuried, his midrange shot was still considered shaky ( its improved slightly this yr but still not much ) and Alot of teams were not sure, if his nxt Contract would be worth the skill…so again… I dont like to do research for people…. but if you just go back to a month ago link to hoopshype.com
And if you remember when he was griping and then out of rotation, sixers found his value plummeted even more ( also in the article, it clearly talks about the intent to pair embiid and Noel ) so not sure were your getting your information from man… link to csnphilly.com
link to csnphilly.com
The Blazers should get him they could make a Evan turner reunion possible lol
Not sure what ya mean by a E.T. reunion.Philly dont want him,and Okafor never played with him.
Should fetch a lottery pick.
The Bucks need to be in this
Portland just got Nurkic from Denver so they’re out
Portland is still allegedly in the discussion. Gained another first rounder and still have plenty of assets to add with one of their now THREE 2017 1st round draft picks. I think they still have an interest in Jah.
They dont need J.O.. either… You have leonard for 3 yrs left, Eziel for 1 more after this, Ed Davis for 1 more yr, Vonleah, who is playn there for small ball and more a five in todays game, and just got Nurfic…and got him for there best center ( Portland is in acquiring picks to draft, in the deepest draft in a while ) they just basically said they are tanking with that last trade and focusing on young atheletic guys… Okafor plays like he is 32..doesnt fit the mold..if they get involved its to acquire another pick and take on an exprining contract
Were there really any talks between the Sixers and the Nuggets?
Also, why in the world are the Sixers so intent on trading Okafor, they are not going to get any value for him.
Colangelo and the rest of the Sixer Brain-trust and that includes Harris are complete Balloon Heads.
You obviously have no knowledge of the Sixers roster. The team has FOUR centers (Okafor, Nerlens Noel, Joel Embiid and Richaun Holmes). Even with Embiid temporarily on the shelf, they’ve had to stash Holmes in the D league.
I know enough and I am not trading Okafor for minimal return
It’s mindless in my opinion if they did.
Yeah but thats about all they are gettn…everyone knows he cant play Defense..everyone knows the sixers have better options, with Embiid, Noel, and Holmes and even Covington in small ball lineups…They totally screwed up during the draft and everyone knew it…it was worse then the kings drafting two more C’s last season… Porzingis and even Jaylen Brown were who they should have taken….. besides Okafor never wanted to be in Philly and that was known… Seriously…every1 pretty much knows he doesnt fit in todays NBA… to short, not explosive, or quick and is -17 even when he has 17-20 Points 8 REB;s and 2 assists…..your not getting anything but minimal return.. lower level 1st rnd pick…If I was philly in this draft…I’d find a desperate taker and take a 2nd rnd pick
Neither Portland nor Denver needs Jahlil Okafor. Both would like to package decent players for one that can get them across the line. So their interest is probably including Okafor in a deal for Jimmy Butler, since it’s known that Chicago is considering rebuilding and that the Bulls like the homegrown center.
Bulls could’nt get a deal done with Philly, neither could New Orleans. So Bryan Colangelo is seeing if Okafor can help another team get Jimmy Butler.
Wilson Chandler, Jahlil Okafor, (third piece) to Chicago. Jimmy Butler to Denver. Emmanuel Mudiay to the Sixers.
I’d love Okafor, both nets picks, and the rights to Yabusele to the Bulls, with Rozier and the Memphis first from the Celtics to 76ers, and Jimmy Butler to the Celtics.
How about the New York Knicks trade Joakim Noah and a first rounder to the Sixers exchange for jahill okafor. This could work for both teams for the Sixers they are willing take Noah contract he can be a leader in their lockeroom and a mentor for the young players long-term. for the Knicks they receive a younger big man with a skiliset that add low post presence back to basket down in the print and play right next to kristrap Porzingis.
Throw that pick to be top 3 protected or so and we’re in for this year
6ers have been rumored to be interested in Lowry and Holiday as free agents.we’re building now,we’re done taking bad contracts.and Noahs contract is bad enough to where Hinkie probably wouldn’t of even taking it.on top of that,we’re not gonna help the Knicks out.notice every team in the Okafor rumors are outside the division.
They are not taking on that contract for him to sit behind three other centers and be “Leader” in the Locker room lol
Thinking outside the box, I would try to trade Okafor and the Sixers first round pick in 2018 for Buddy Hield. Maybe even throw in Ilyasova to help the Pelicans for the stretch run and a playoff berth.
That cab’t be correct about the Bulls getting the Kings protected 1st rounder this year. The 76ers have the right to swap first rounders with the Kings.
The Bulls get it if it’s outside the top 10. The Sixers have the right to swap if it’s in the top 10.
Gar needs to get this deal done then see if he can find takers for butler, wade and rondo. A complete rebuild is the only answer.
The problem is gar is not the guy to do a total rebuild. Once he traded rose last offseason he should have traded butler too, and he should have never, ever signed rondo and wade should have been a pass, too. Especially when gar knew he had a young coach he should have rebuilt.
Gars draft picks suck. Valentine is already in the d league. Gar isn’t the man for this job.
Shouldn’t be a problem to find a taker for Butler. You’re sleeping on Valentine though. Great all around game, he would be a great piece for the sixers.
“Gars draft picks suck”. So Taj Gibson, Derrick Rose, Jimmy Butler all suck?
The Cleveland Cavaliers should get involved he’s a really good player
How old is okafor? Man all the armchair general managers aka expert fans, give up on guys so quick now a days and write them off as worthless, hopeless, and say they have things they can’t, won’t, and aren’t capable of doing or learning. It’s so absolute I just think it’s interesting. I agree I wouldn’t give up as much as some people are proposing but to say he isn’t worth a 1st round pick 15-30 and a bench player is just an opinion. He was the #3 pick for a reason and he is super young still growing body still maturing weightlifting, plyometrics, watching film and learning the details are all things that could help him become a capable defender. How many 20yr olds understand the complexities of nba defense and the details it takes to slow down the greatest players in the world that have been playing 10yrs longer than him and think the game much better. And if his post game grows too and he can demand double teams and make free throws he will be valuable.
I wouldn’t mind seeing him next to Anthony Davis, but the other teams I don’t think they need him, nuggets have tons of talent to trade, galinari is still a lot better than people realize, so is Wilson chandler, faired is still good at what he does, Barton is legit 6th man, and they have 3 young guards I doubt they will trade since 2 of them were top 5 picks in last 2 yrs.
link to fivethirtyeight.com
Chicago
Im just hoping the Lakers can somehow get rid of Mozgov.
hahah me too… hopefully a buy out, cause I highly doubt a team is taking on that contract lol.. I dont blame jeanie for one bit, in bringing on Magic to get inbetween her and her estranged brother lol and Mitch… people can clown on Phil, but Mitch has been asleep the last four yrs… I counted about six 2nd rnd picks we let go, with not trading guys like davis, Baez, ect… and tryn to save their arse’s by going after big name guys they had zero reason to go after and zero real interest from players… it was bad enough we didnt draft Isiah when we had the chance, but he was easily a realistic smart target back then….
me too… hopefully a buy out, cause I highly doubt a team is taking on that contract lol.. I dont blame jeanie for one bit, in bringing on Magic to get inbetween her and her estranged brother lol and Mitch… people can clown on Phil, but Mitch has been asleep the last four yrs… I counted about six 2nd rnd picks we let go, with not trading guys like davis, Baez, ect… and tryn to save their arse’s by going after big name guys they had zero reason to go after and zero real interest from players… it was bad enough we didnt draft Isiah when we had the chance, but he was easily a realistic smart target back then….
Okafor put up those numbers because Embiid wasn’t playing and they had no scorers on sixers. IT is literally the MCW effect and let’s see how good his numbers have improved since his rookie campaign.
Basically Okafor has shown flashes of potential, but is still a risk.
link to fivethirtyeight.com
Here they are… he is not great…barely good…in todays NBA…
Its not the McW,or the Evan Turner effect just for the simple fact that they were both ball dominate.Okafor gets in position and gets the ball delivered to him.he can put up those same numbers anywhere,and he could possibly improve on them with a better pg and better wings around him.