With the Knicks and Carmelo Anthony seemingly at a stand-off when it comes to a potential trade, there has been increased speculation in recent weeks that the two sides could explore a buyout. According to ESPN’s Marc Stein (Twitter links), Anthony’s camp has indeed attempted to engage the Knicks in buyout discussions, but the Knicks have thus far been resistant to going down that road.
Anthony has stated all year that his preference is to remain in New York, and Stein notes that Carmelo’s camp has acknowledged that preference even as they attempt to engage the Knicks in potential buyout talks. Since he holds a no-trade clause, Anthony has plenty of leverage in the situation — even if Phil Jackson wants to move his leading scorer, Carmelo has to give his approval in order for a deal to be finalized.
If the Knicks were to buy out Anthony, Carmelo would have the opportunity to join the team of his choice without that club giving the Knicks any assets in a trade. Stein’s report says that a buyout would clear the way for the veteran forward to sign with the Cavs, so it’s possible that joining LeBron James in Cleveland would be Anthony’s preferred option, should he reach free agency.
As Ian Begley of ESPN.com tweets, the Knicks would obviously prefer to trade Anthony and view releasing him or buying him out as “unfavorable” options. If Anthony remains unwilling to waive his no-trade clause to accommodate a deal though, New York will have to seriously consider whether it makes more sense to buy out the 33-year-old or to hang onto him during the club’s rebuild.
Stay Melo please!
Why he’s detrimental to the team, he needs to accept a lesser role for a better team
I wouldn’t say he’s “detrimental”. That implies that there are actions he’s done or a pervasive attitude that hurts the team. By every account by his teammates, he’s well liked. On the floor, you can’t argue that his scoring ability hurts the team. The ONLY reason the Knicks should look to move him and he should agree, is because the Knicks suck and in-order to get better they need to strip it down to the bones, keep one or two pieces and try and build from there thru drafting and acquiring assets. Once they are a 30-40 win team, then maybe look at big FA.
You wouldn’t be honest unless you included the word detrimental because he’s been the worst thing to happen to any NY sports team in the cities history.
He’s got the pervasive attitude
He’s a bully who cares about control, power and money but doesn’t think winning matters enough.
His scoring ability is only eclipsed by his defensive inability and that’s why his impact on the game is almost as bad as his impact on the clubhouse.
The Knicks should look to move him because he’ll be happier and the Knicks will be better. All Melo cares about is hurting Phil and the Knicks.
As far as your rebuild plan? It looks like your moms recipe for chicken soup. You know nothing about basketball or the Knicks if that is your version of a plan.
Dude you are a joke. How old are you? The worst thing to happen to a New York team? Look…PHIL JACKSON is the problem. He had a chance to let Melo walk and he instead gave him an even bigger contract and a no-trade clause. He knew exactly what kind of player that Melo was and that was a good guy who could score you points but didn’t do much on defense.
Bully? Who the hell is he bullying? Every teammate talks about him be great in the club-house. Never did he EVER come out and say anything negative about Phil nor ownership. You sir are delusional.
Take the emotions out of this and embrace the suck of a rebuild. I’m a long-time Knicks fan since the 90’s. The NBA doesn’t work like mlb. You have to rebuild thru drafts and trades. Keeping Melo around makes you a 35 win team. Not good enough to be a serious playoff contender and not bad enough to get a top 3 pick.
Phil shot himself in the foot by making Melo a distressed commodity. The NBA world knows he’s desperate to get rid of him and unless someone has a desperate enough of a need you can forget about getting an asset. Most are willing to wait it out and see if he’s bought out. Phil might be a great coach but he’s a horrible front-office man.
Buyout Phil Jackson please.
Would love see that happen.
Just put Melo out of his misery:
And here is the problem if you let him go. You paid him to play for someone else. I would sit dude down and let him know, it’s either in NY or it’s nowhere.
Either NY or nowhere? They can’t force him to not play anywhere else if he takes a buyout…
Clearly I’m talking about not buying him out. Reading comprehension. It will do you good.
Phil Jackson, is that you? Why would Phil sit Carmelo down and tell him “it’s either NY or it’s no where” when: 1.) Carmelo doesn’t want to go, he wants to be in NY. 2.) Phil is the one that wants Carmelo to go. 3.) NBA contracts are guaranteed, so Phil can’t just cut him and not pay him. 4.) No teams are willing to trade for him and take on that contract, especially when Jackson wants him gone and some kind of sweetener will be needed to get Carmelo to waive his no-trade.
Reading comprehension will do you goo too.
Logic. It will do you (and Phil Jackson) good.
Adam, what sweetener is Phil getting for a guy who has no trade value?
You trumpet logic when the most logical thing is if you want him gone, buy him out. Even if you have to pay him, you would buy him out and be done with him. That is the most logical course of action with how the NBA is constructed.
So if Melo doesn’t want to go, but the guy in charge does and has no way of getting something in return, what LOGICAL choice is left?
I guess I will applaud the effort that went in here but you can’t argue logic when the most logical thing with this is staring you dead in the eye. I’m not saying Phil Jackson doesn’t want him gone. I’m saying that I’m not paying a guy to play somewhere else when I know currently I can’t get anything in return for him.
You are missing the point. Melo didn’t want to leave until Phil made things uncomfortable by going to the media and telling them the Knicks don’t want Melo and that if Melo was smart he would agree to a trade. The you said:
“I would sit dude down and let him know, it’s either in NY or it’s nowhere”.
You’re acting as if Melo was against staying. You’re words make no sense. Melo’s stance is this:
-I want to retire as a Knick so let’s figure out hot to make this work.
-Ok Phil..now that you’ve been so disrespectful I might be willing to accept a trade but ONLY to the teams I’m ok with going to.
-Melo: If I can’t stay and you can’t get a deal done with one of the few teams I might agree to then I’m cool staying here until either we make amends, you get fired/quit or if you pay me as much of my contract as I require and buy me out.
Phil wouldn’t be getting a sweetener, Phil would have been the one having to give Anthony a sweetener. As I said “some kind of sweetener will be needed to get Carmelo to waive his no-trade”. If he wanted Anthony to waive his no-trade, he would have had to give something to Anthony to do it, since Phil not Anthony was the one that wanted him to go. Hence your “sitting him down and telling him he’s playing in NY or playing no where” wouldn’t accomplish anything, since Anthony (not Jackson) was the one completely fine with him playing in NY.
Either you really can’t read or you’re just a troll playing dumb, and I’m now leaning towards the latter.
Are you not reading the papers? Melo never asked to be traded and wanted to stay despite the fact they suck. Phil is literally trying to run and shame him out of town.
Problem is, most teams don’t have the cap space so in any trade the Knicks have to take back salary. For most teams that might mean trading a player that has value (which they probably want to keep. ex. Kevin Love) or a player on a really bad contract (like a Joakim Noah type of guy).
One. No one reads papers anymore. Or very few. Two, if I did, the papers in Arizona would likely tell me nothing about Carmelo. And Three, if it was about getting Carmelo out of town, then Phil would buy him out.
Excuse me…”media reports”. Phil isn’t hiding anything. He has on numerous occasions said it that he wants Melo out of NY and that it was in Melo’s best interest to accept a trade and move on with his career elsewhere.
Worst run team in the league
Yes indeed
I might argue the Cavs. Hear me out in this. They were so bad, and likely had some NBA help, that they received the 1st pick 3 of four years. They then only become good when they ship one of those out of town for another player, at the behest of a returning lebron james who has now figured out that his current team is not good enough to win a title. They are also cash strapped with some of the worst contracts in the NBA and may not be able to get out of any of them.
The only time the Cavs have looked like they knew what they were doing was when they had LeBron James on their roster. I think it’s easy to out two and two together.
Why would the NBA rig the draft for the Cavs. There is no financial benefit to the league to stacking it for the Cavs. They aren’t the Lakers, Clippers, Knicks, Nets, Bulls etc… They are probably one of the smaller markets in the NBA.
So you believe they landed the picks 3 of 4 years on coincidence? What about NO getting it the year they were sold to a new owner?
I’m sorry but as much as I would like to believe that they didn’t get help, they got it two years in a row. The only other time that has happened is when they weighted the lottery to what it is today a year after Orlando magically landed Shaq.
Even if they didn’t get help, look what how poor they have been without the best player in the NBA. Honestly, if Lebron comes back and they have a core of Kyrie and Wiggins, are they really going to get better? Probably not because one of them leaves the first chance they have at FA.
Can we stop with the narrative that the Cavs have the worst contracts in the NBA? That’s not the case. They simply are over the cap and have limited trade options to use. No other team other than a contender would trade for the players we want to move and the trade partners we wanted to trade with are non-contenders (Bulls, Pacers, etc).
The Cavs overpaid on Thompson, Shumpert and Smith just to keep the team continuity intact but those players still have on the floor value although JR Smith had a really uncharacteristically bad year shooting-wise. There’s still reason to believe he can return to be a better 3pt shooter than he was this year (34%) if he can stay healthy. He had hand issues this year if I recall correctly
Comparitively, Tristan (3/$52 mil) is a better value than Joakim Noah (3/$54 mil). At least Tristan has been durable and consistently among the league leaders in rebounds and hustle play. Iman Shumpert’s 2/$21 contract in terms of value/performance is FAR, FAR, FAR better than Evan Turner’s 3/$52 mil. JR Smith’s 3/$42 mil is no where near as heinous as Chandler Parson’s 3/$72 mil.
Phil Jackson is a stubborn old goat. He’s gonna refuse to buy Melo out because of that stubbornness. No team is gonna trade for Melo with that albatross of a contract. Phil as was stated in the bible: Let Carmelo Go!
I’m starting to think that Phil is going to be willing to cripple the franchise, just to be able to show that he can make those moves because HE is in control.
I disagree. It would just have to be a bad contract for bad contract deal (which in the NBA trade/salary rules you pretty much have to match contract values).
Problem is, Carmelo probably wouldn’t to go to some of those teams. Some deals that make sense are:
OKC for one of Kanter (18 mil), Adams (22 mil) or Oladipo (21 mil). A 2nd player may need to be a throw in to get around Melo’s $25 mil. Both Oladipo and Adams start making big $$$$ next year and at lease Melo would be more productive and 2 years shorter than either Oladipo and Adams. That can help OKC down the road.
Portland for Allen Crabtree (19 mil). Blazers with Lillard and CJ might be attractive to both the team and Melo. Knicks get a high energy, young 3pt sniper in return.
Bucks for Monroe (18 mil) and Dellavedova (9 mil). Monroe is in his last year after the season and Delly might be a good back up PG or maybe be flipped to another team (a contender) needing a back up PG. Buck’s might want another scorer and vet leader to run along with the core four of the Bucks (Giannis, Jabari, Brogdon and Middleton). Knicks immediately swap 2 years of Melo’s cap hold for 1 year of Monroe’s.
It could be some interesting moves. None which add talent to the Knicks but ones that can get them from under Melo’s contract quicker.
Phil and his outdated offense needs to go then the Knicks will have a chance!
Phil Jackson is a clown. The narrative on Melo has become really disgusting, and I just feel bad for him, even though it’s hard to feel bad for someone in his position in life…the way fans talk about him at this point…it’s so messed up and wrong. Dude deserves to be somewhere he can be appreciated and happy and successful
Why?
The narrative on Melo is disgusting and it’s well deserved. Not just from trying to run phil out of town but for running Lin and Dantoni out of town.
Blaming Phil couldn’t be more delusional.
Literal definition of hater….
Too funny!
He thinks he can block a trade because he “wants to be in NY” and then ask for them to buy him out so he can leave NY?
I wonder if he can be such a POS they have to buy him out because the players can’t stand to be around him.
oh wait.
We already have that answer.
Melo will play out his final 2 years on the Knicks, then have his chance to win a ring as the 6th man on a contender.
His contract is so huge, no NBA team would be willing to take that on for the duration in a trade. Is why a contender would be interested simply b/c they can then pay him the mid level prorated at the time of the buyout.
If he were to go to the Cavs, he would start some regular season games, but he wouldn’t be a featured player and certainly wouldn’t start any games in the playoffs unless there was a rash of injuries. He’d rather be a guy off the bench to add as a scoring threat.