The Raptors had several conversations with Kawhi Leonard and his agent after Wednesday’s blockbuster trade, tweets Michael Grange of Sportsnet, who adds that the talks were “positive” and “forward-looking.” Leonard hasn’t taken his physical yet, reports Josh Lewenberg of TSN (Twitter link), but the team isn’t concerned and remains confident that he will pass it (Twitter link).
Toronto could opt to waive the physical, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst said yesterday in an appearance on “Outside The Lines,” although that would obviously be a risky move. Leonard has 48 hours to report to the Raptors, but Windhorst notes the team could opt to extend that deadline. Team president Masai Ujiri is expected to address the media on the deal by the end of the week.
There’s more news to pass along on the biggest trade of the summer:
- The Spurs were determined to get a scorer in exchange for Leonard, which is why the Raptors were able to get their attention with DeMar DeRozan, according to Kevin O’Connor of The Ringer. San Antonio wasn’t looking to begin the rebuilding process with a package of draft picks and unproven players. In addition, Jakob Poeltl provides a young interior presence for a team that starts 38-year-old Pau Gasol and 33-year-old LaMarcus Aldridge.
- The Spurs lost leverage when LeBron James joined the Lakers without demanding another star accompany him, writes Zach Lowe of ESPN. Lingering injury concerns and Leonard’s open desire to play in his hometown of Los Angeles prevented the Spurs from getting a return more in line with his value. The Raptors now have several months to sell Leonard on the benefits of playing in Toronto, adds Lowe, who says if they get the feeling by Thanksgiving that he still plans to leave next summer, they can move him to the Lakers or Clippers for about what they paid for him.
- Even though Leonard has made it clear he doesn’t want to play in Toronto, he represented the team’s best chance to acquire an elite talent, Lewenberg writes in a full story. Leonard also came at a reasonable price, as Ujiri didn’t have to part with his three best young prospects in OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam and Delon Wright and held onto all his draft picks after 2019.
- The Spurs traded one unhappy player for another and will have to work to develop a positive relationship with DeRozan, observes Sam Amick of USA Today. DeRozan felt betrayed by the Raptors, posting “Be told one thing & the outcome another. Can’t trust em. Ain’t no loyalty in this game” as part of an Instagram message. San Antonio may rely on assistant coach Ime Udoka, a former workout partner of DeRozan, to help smooth things over.
- With Leonard and Tony Parker both gone and Manu Ginobili contemplating retirement, the Spurs are moving into a new era, notes Jeremy Woo of Sports Illustrated. The changes make a 22nd consecutive trip to the playoffs look like an uncertain prospect, he adds.
The Spurs made the playoffs last year without Leonard,and with both Parker and Ginobili playing under 20 minutes a game.They’re now adding DeRozan.Sure,they’re no lock for the playoffs,but they’re actually looking like an improved team over the 1 they had this passed season.
I agree …
It’s funny how people overlook that important detail…
I keep seeing everyone write that the Spurs consecutive playoff streak is in jeopardy, and I don’t understand the thinking behind it.
Spurs won 47 last year and were a seven seed. That was without Claw. Like the deal or not, but how do you add a regular all star and lose spots in the standings???
I can’t see how the Spurs don’t win 50-52 games and get in as a 4-5 seed.
I agree … they should make the playoffs but may take a few games for the team to mesh together
CBS and Yahoo reported yesterday on “Can Kawhii sit out next season?” with the answer being not without serious consequences. It also said trading Kawhi would be difficult. Said the difference between Kawhi and Paul George is Kawhi isn’t playing with Russell Westbrook. Said Pop didn’t want to trade Kawhi to the Western Conference, so he sent him to another country. The risk of the one year rental makes you think this is a salary dump.
Anyway we can ship Kawhi out of the league altogether? It would be better without him.
I hope Kawhi himself does the unthinkable and says he wants to play in Toronto just so you’ll stop talking about the consequences of him sitting out a season. Lmao! Please stop, no one cares that you “know contracts” and can read the CBA.
Spurs could easily miss the playoffs. Fan bases tend to operate on the assumption that, year over year, their returning group will perform at least as well or better, and all variables outside of their team will remain the same. The first may or may not be a good assumption, and the second never is. Start with the fact that the Spurs were under .500 from Jan 1 through the end of the regular season. Their player losses, year over year, also include Green, Anderson and Parker (3 guys with many years in their system). They’re an older team. As important, they don’t have any ascending young players that got true starter minutes last year. DeRozan is an all star level player in his prime, but he’ll need to work his way into the system and perform very well for this team to get much better. In terms of the outside world, the teams finishing last year 8-11 in the West standings should all be better to much better, as will Memphis if Gasol and Conley are healthy. I don’t see any tanking teams in the West, whereas last year there were 4 hardcore tankers. I’m not saying they won’t make it, more than half the teams in the NBA do, but it’s not a lock or even very unlikely.
Feels like a bumpy year ahead for San Antonio, but playoffs don’t seem unreasonable. Feels like they they still need to make a move to shore up that SF slot though. For example, now the Philly is keeping RoCo could they swap Mills for Wilson Chandler?
No,because after LeBron went to La,the 6ers went for all 1 year deals to keep flexibility for next year.6ers are trying to add a star level player before they have to pay Simmons.
Plus they have Rudy Gay…not really much of a difference between Gay and Chandler.
You whiffed on a few points there my friend. First, they’ve gotten younger – Parker is gone and Manu is most likely going to retire. 10 players from their roster are 29 or younger, while 5 are 30 or older (we’re talking the players that will make the team). Two, young players that haven’t received starter minutes? Try their starting PG Murray. He took over last year and started the last 48 games. Third – considering the Spurs didn’t have Leonard last year and still made the playoffs – by adding DeRozen, it’s safe to say that they’ll “get much better.” And lastly – under .500 play. Pops rests his players, and often. In fact, I sensed the feeling that they played to win on ‘an-as-needed’ basis towards the last 20 games of the year.
I agree there’s no certainties when it comes to assumptions and new players coming in, but when you have a coach like Popovich with a trophy case, it makes the transition a bit more positive.
You either missed both of my points, or maybe just chose not to address one of them (the one re: the rest of the league being the same) and missed the other (the one re: the Spurs returning group providing the same value as last year).
The “returning group” is the group of players that were on last year’s team and figure to be on this year’s team (nothing to do with Parker or any other departed or new player). The age of either 15 man roster (last year or this) isn’t relevant. It’s the age of guys who played (last year) and figure to play (this year), in proportion to how much / well they played. Based on that, the returning group is old by NBA standards. I’m in a generous mood, so I’ll give you Murray. He did start a good portion of the year, and it’s reasonable for someone to consider him an ascending young starter. BUT he didn’t get true starter minutes (which was my stated standard).
I never said that adding new young talent like Walker and Poeltl, or giving more minutes to existing younger players, won’t make them better. They might. Or guys can have breakout years, or defy father time. My post was solely about debunking the assumption that this year’s team is last year’s team plus DeRozan, and thus the expected record should be the DeRozan fixed increment over last year’s record.
#11 Lakers will definitely improve.Lebron can definitely makeup the 12 win difference between the Lakers and the playoffs.But Denver and the Clippers? Idk about all that.DeRozan to the Spurs is a bigger impact than IT in Denver.How many pgs has Denver been through the last few years? Talk about having to get used to a system.How many disappointments have there really been under Pop? Clippers losing Jordan will more than likely hurt. No Paul,no Griffin,No Jordan,they could definitely be on their way to tanking.
Denver’s starting lineup of Jokic, Millsap, Barton, Harris and Murray, contains 3 players that are 23 or younger. Millsap missed over half the year. Still, the team finished only 1 game behind the Spurs and Minny for the last 2 playoff spots. I don’t care about IT, he’s just a minimum contract player at this point.
Minny was the 3rd seed before Butler got hurt, and he was never 100% after that.
I’m not that bullish on the Clippers, but they did play through too many injuries to name last year, and still finished above .500. They’re a WIP, but when you add guys like Beverly, Bradley, Gallo, Telosoic, 2 top 12 draft picks, and 2 FAs that were rotation guys on playoff teams, it’s hard to get worse.
Derozan should be happy now, no State taxes in Texas and more money in his paycheck now that he is out of Canada
Tired of hearing about no state taxes. Totally over-rated
Isn’t that a rod sign with the rangers years ago .
I agree with DXC… San Antonio might very well struggle, Denver doesn’t need to add anyone with Jokic getting better and better, last year he broke into the top 10… Denver is a lock for the playoffs.
I’ll bet you just pissed DXC off by agreeing with him. Now you’re going to make the poor guy doubt himself.
Spurs should have a serious crack at Melo….
Murray-DMDR-Melo-LMA-Gasol/Poeltl
with Gasol/Poeltl, Mills and Gay off the bench….
would still be a solid top 6 WC team
Now that the raptors made this move for Kawhi.
Is this trade possible or I just lost my mind.
Toronto – A. Davis
Sacramento – S. Ibaka
Pelicans – Z. Randolph, N. Powell, K. Koufos.
and picks mix around there from toronto.
is this a all in senario for toronto and to sell in to Kawhi.
not an expert. but just throwing this in.