In an entertaining, in-depth story for The New York Post, Yaron Weitzman takes a deep dive into the inner workings of the Knicks‘ front office, exploring how president of basketball operations Leon Rose has skillfully managed a handful of competing viewpoints and voices in the basketball operations department.
As Weitzman details, Rose has had to consider input from head coach Tom Thibodeau, who has little patience for a rebuild and wondered if RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson could be traded for “seasoned veterans”; from executive VP William Wesley – aka “World Wide Wes’ – who frequently zeroed in on players who attended the University of Kentucky or signed with CAA; and from cap expert Brock Aller, who advocated for a patient, flexible approach to using the team’s cap room.
Rose has managed to make everybody happy so far — he acquired Derrick Rose, like Thibodeau wanted, drafted Immanuel Quickley, which Wesley “pushed for like crazy,” and used the Knicks’ cap room primarily on affordable one-year signings, which was Aller’s preference.
“His job is to sort through different opinions from different people and make the best decision,” a rival executive said of Rose. “It certainly seems like he’s doing that well.”
Here are a few more highlights from Weitzman’s story, which is worth checking out in full:
- Wesley, who had been hyping up Quickley for months, badly wanted the Knicks to select him at No. 23 and was “furious” when the team made a last-second decision to trade back to No. 25, loudly declaring, “Coach says we need shooting, Quickley’s the best shooter.” The Knicks ultimately landed the Kentucky point guard with the 25th pick.
- According to Weitzman, when conversations in the front office focused on players who had no connections to Kentucky or to CAA, Wesley would often close his eyes. “When Wes said ‘we,’ people weren’t sure if he was referring to the Knicks or Kentucky,” one source said of World Wide Wes, who has a long-standing friendship with Wildcats coach John Calipari.
- Meetings between Thibodeau and Aller sometimes became heated, given their diametric points of view on winning now vs. rebuilding. Weitzman says Thibodeau would sometime mockingly refer to Aller as “Hinkie,” a reference to Sam Hinkie, who infamously took an extreme long-term view when he rebuilt the Sixers.
- Thibodeau pushed for the Knicks to use their cap room to pursue veteran free agents such as Gordon Hayward, Marcus Morris, and Bogdan Bogdanovic, per Weitzman. While the Knicks were said to be in the mix for Hayward, they ultimately used their space to sign veterans like Nerlens Noel, Alec Burks, and Elfrid Payton to one-year deals.
What does It mean?Thib refers Aller as Hinkie
In regard to rebuild, Sam Hinkie is the best GM ever in the nba history
He got 4 consecutive top-3 draft picks within 4 years
If Wolves hired Hinkie 2 years ago they would be title contenders after 4 years
He also picked Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor with 2 of those 4 lmao. The guy is no where near the best GM in nba history. It really isn’t that hard to tank, literally just trade your veteran talent for picks. What defines a great GM is what you do with those picks. Anyone could’ve taken Joel Embiid, so don’t use that as an argument.
Anyone could… but 2 teams failed miserably to do so… again what is your point?
Also to follow up, if the TWolves hired Hinkie they would be title contenders within 4 years? That seems like an optimistic estimate since the 20-21 season is the first year the Sixers are legitimate title contenders.
One could argue he’s the worst GM ‘because’ he had 4 years of top three picks.
I’d go with Aller over Thibs on direction. Thibs needs to coach and stay out of the front office. Moving RJ would be a terrible mistake. This is about the organization, not Thibs’ personal goal of building his resume.
That is the point, sadly Thibs is just selfish & useless for a rebuilding team, as a matter of fact!
Thibs has never built a winner from scratch. He’s always taken over good or decent teams, made them better for a couple of seasons, and then watched them atrophy because they have no young up-and-comers.
Everything you just wrote is false. Either you are uninformed or flat out lie. You can research it yourself. It’s amazing to me how posters love to bash the Knicks. Yet all they rally about is the same nonsense the media bandwagon loves to bring up. Try an original thought and be honest about it.
Thibs built Bulls, Thibs built Minny, Thibs built Knicks cause this is practically same roster all you geniuses bashed the last two yrs.
please try and Lear ball and not just spout nonsense. That’s for all the Haters here, including you.
Thibs built the Bulls? He took over the Bulls in June of 2010. The players on his roster who got the most playing time were Rose, Deng, Noah, and Boozer. The next season they added Rip Hamilton, but the same list of guys played (except Rose got hurt). Butler didn’t sniff the rotation.
In 12-13, Butler finally got recognized as the talent he is, but he still wasn’t in the top 4 minutes wise. Hinrich was the man in place of Rose. Oh, and Luol Deng almost died.
In 13-14, it was Butler, Noah, Deng (until he got hurt), and…wait for it…33 year old Mike Dunleavy got all the run. In 14-15 it was Butler, Noah, Gasol, Dunleavy, and Rose that got all the run. Then Thibs left.
Which player(s) did Thibs develop? What young players did Thibs groom to lead the Bulls into the second half of the decade? Butler? While I’d argue that answer is dubious, one good young player in five years is a horrible record.
Now, shall I do Minny, or are you going to acknowledge Thibs doesn’t develop young players?
Butler didn’t come to Bulls till 2011-12. He didn’t start to show till 2013-14. Then broke out in 2014-15 because of Thibs. So go and and use your computer to get informed before you try me. cause I don’t have time for mindless rants. Not here to teach haters. Hate all you want. I’m here for intelligent dialogue and wise opinions. You don’t know Butler you don’t know his Minny days either. That’s Thibs days. I’m an informed and and well read basketball fan. Cause I played it coached it and Know all there is to know. Why are you even on this board lol
Well, if you know all there is to know, why do you even read the site?
Thibs. Zero rings.
And I’m a Knicks fan.
The Knicks have been rebuilding for 20 years. They are going to get a younger, better core than what they have now. It’s time to compete again, not waste decades.
I think Payton was a terrible signing, but other than that I’ve loved Rose’s moves. I hope they don’t think they’re close enough to contention to go all-in this summer. They need to be patient and collect assets and develop their young players for a couple more years before they consider swinging for the fences in free agency or by trading for a superstar.
Payton has been and won the starting OG. How is that bad. There was no other option. And he’ll probably be traded soon. How is that bad in any NBA world
It sounds like Rose is truly a saving grace, primarily saving us from Thibs and WWW
I love the moves that Leon Rose has made so far.
It’s important not to go too far in any one direction.
You spend too much time focusing on rebuilding, the next thing you know it’s been over a decade since you’ve made the playoffs.
He spent too much time focusing on winning now, You end up with a team consisting of a bunch of aging veterans on bloated contracts who can’t even get close to title contention.
Rose has made all the right moves and I think the Knicks have a bright future as long as he’s running the show.
Why hire a guy who only wants guys from UK or CAA? Wes has always been a slim ball. Don’t understand bringing someone like him into your organization.
As a Knicks fan, sometimes i’m afraid with Thibs can do to us in long term. We are not contenders, we need to stick and develop our core. Trade Barrett, Quickley, Robinson or Toppin would be horrible. Stay with the big picture Knicks, i beg you
The problem starts at the top. Dolan doesn’t understand what it takes to build a championship roster, so he hires guys like Thibs and/or he cuts the legs off of coaches who are great at player development (like Fizdale).
Thibs might just get the Knicks into the first round of the playoffs this year or next. But then what? Barrett isn’t going to be all he can be as long as the head coach is trying to trade him.
I agree with the Dolan problem. My personal hope is that Rose and Scott Perry can keep Thibs in develop mode and dont agree with any trades involving our core
All the Knicks homers who criticized me for saying that Thibodeau is unwilling/unable to develop young players should have to write down paragraph two 10 times on a blank sheet of paper.
Historically, the Knicks have been terrible at developing their draft picks. And the current coach doesn’t seem like he’s going to reverse that trend.
For the sake of Barrett, Robinson, Knox, Quickley, et al, I sincerely hope they get traded to a team like Utah or San Antonio or OKC where the coaching staff is invested in their future. I’m sure the Knicks can get good value for all of their young players, and I’m sure trading away the team’s future will help Thibs win a few more games too.
Or – maybe just maybe – the Knicks should make it clear to Thibs he either develops their young talent or he gets fired. Because the coach obviously doesn’t want to play the young guys, and playing time is what young players need.
And if you didn’t see this coming – that Thibs would limit the development of the youngsters – you haven’t been paying attention.
It appears that the Knicks finally have a TP that’s a strong and confident enough leader that he can hire and manage other strong talented people. Rose figured to be this, and he hasn’t disappointed. In fact, he’s impressed from day 1 on this.
Still, a FO regime is defined by it’s major personnel decisions, and he’s yet to make any, beyond the draft, perhaps. He hasn’t had to make any others, and he gets some points for not making any prematurely. But eventually they’ll present themselves as ripe, and the most important of them are best made proactively. I know he’ll make considered decisions. Hope they’re also good ones.
These next four games for the Knicks will define their season.
First off if you believe all that is written. Then you have already exposed yourself. I can enlighten you. But we know you could care less. This is for all the Busters on here. It’s been half a season and you’ve already figured us out. Wow, I think you know it all.
My niece (4yrs old) got more sense. If you don’t know Knicks are rebuilding. Then you need to take up another sport.
i think thibs had to change his way to get back into coaching and so far he’s been good. People love killing the knicks just because they’re the knicks almost as much as the cowboys.
Thibs was GM n coach in Minny. That’s how he got in trouble. And really Jimmy was right about team. Cause they still suck and got no heart today. Even Rubio has expressed it. Yes he probably made mistakes there. But teams have never been better than what he built. Hes only the coach in NY. Nothing is getting done unless it’s a group decision. They will consult with Thibs, your suppose to he’s the coach. But the GM is the final decision. It’s a team game. Why is that so hard to understand. You think a coach who coaches team concept in all things. Is not going to be a team guy with personnel.
Considering his record, the part about Thibs wanting to trade all the young players for vets makes a ton of sense.
wanting and doing are 2 very different scenarios.
All the players ?!??? I guess you were the fly on the wall. You sound like a 10 yr old. Knicks are one of youngest team in NBA last yr and this yr. It’s been 31 gms and you think they are going to clean house. They are the 5th seed on a rebuilding yr. Thats called team success. But they haven’t done anything. Thibs is here to build a core. That’s how you win in NBA. I’m sure he’s not settled on one yet. Why would h ex after 31 gms.
For someone who knows it all, you should know that NYK have played 37 games, facts!
You keep saying ad nauseum they played 31 games… you see if you got the lil’ facts right, someone might believe you when you come out with your outrageous stuff… but hey, whatever gets you off, dude!
So you build a core by trading away young players like RJ and Mitch for vets? Do you even hear yourself?
Being a super hardcore Thibs stan is a really weird hill to want to die on.
link to sports.yahoo.com
Knicks still a long way to go. This is a rebuild. We lucked out with Randle. Time we had luck
He’s quickly gaining on lamelo in the rookie of the year race.
No, he isn’t. That’s not to say he’s not playing well though…
So the Knicks are still the Knicks except Rose is barely keeping them together with duct tape and glue. Nice.
Pretty funny that some folks actually thought Thibs had changed his ways. He’s a high-floor, low-ceiling HC who can turn a bad team into a respectable one, but who is too stubborn and old-fashioned to ever have a shot at winning a ring. And, as should have been clear from his days in Minny, he is a horrible front office executive. Like, really, really horrible. I’m surprised he hasn’t tried to lobby Noah to come out of retirement to play for the Knicks.