AUGUST 7: Oubre and the Hornets have now finalized a two-year, $25MM contract, agent Torrel Harris tells Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link). Charlotte announced the signing in a press release.
It appears Oubre’s starting salary will come in slightly lower than initially expected after Charlotte took on Wesley Iwundu in a trade with New Orleans.
The deal won’t feature any options, per Michael Scotto of HoopsHype (Twitter link). However, Rod Boone of SI.com (Twitter link) says the second year will be partially guaranteed and Anthony Slater of The Athletic provides the specifics, tweeting that $5MM of Oubre’s $12.6MM salary for 2022/23 will be guaranteed.
AUGUST 5: The Hornets and free agent wing Kelly Oubre are in agreement on a two-year deal that will be worth $26MM+, sources tell Shams Charania of The Athletic (Twitter link).
David Aldridge of The Athletic reported earlier on Thursday that the Hornets and Oubre had engaged in discussions, while Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports was first to report that the two sides were finalizing a multiyear deal expected to exceed $12MM per year.
Charlotte, one of the only NBA teams that still had the cap room necessary to make an offer worth more than the full mid-level exception ($9.5MM), had also reportedly been mulling an offer sheet for Lauri Markkanen. However, the Hornets’ agreement with Oubre will eat up most – if not all – of their remaining cap room, presumably taking an aggressive bid for the Bulls‘ restricted free agent forward off the table.
Oubre, 25, has spent time with the Wizards, Suns, and Warriors since entering the league as the 15th overall pick in the 2015 draft. In 2020/21, he averaged 15.4 PPG and 6.0 RPG on .439/.316/.695 shooting in 55 games (30.7 MPG) for Golden State.
While Oubre possesses good size and athleticism for a three-and-D wing, his three-point shot has been inconsistent over the course of his career (32.6%).
Charlotte will be hoping to get the 2019/20 version of Oubre, who averaged 18.7 PPG with a .352 3PT% for the Suns. The former Kansas Jayhawk will join a talented group of Hornets forwards that includes Gordon Hayward, Miles Bridges, and P.J. Washington.
Since the Hornets have the ability to sign Oubre outright using their cap room and his new contract will only be for two years, it won’t be a sign-and-trade deal involving the Warriors.
Charlotte being Charlotte…
I don’t understand the dig.
Oubre is a perfect fit for this squad. They want to RUN. He’s a great finisher, who’ll get plenty of chances in translation. In the half court offense, his skill set is interchangeable with Bridges’. And on top of all that, he’ll be the best wing defender on the roster – by a mile.
Gives them the true wing they needed behind Hayward. For their team, I would have probably preferred Zeller to Plumlee, mostly b/c he is more useful without the ball, but I really like what their roster looks like.
Didn’t Nicolas Batum give them a true wing once as well?
Well, they stretch provisioned him…
Bridges is a 4/3, PJ Washington os a 4/5, and McDaniels is a 4/3 as well, mostly a 4…they didnt really have someone at the 3 behind Hayward, except Ball in multi guard lineups, or one of the Martin twins
Still some interesting free agents available, like Reggie Jackson. I also like some of the guards that are available, like Reggie Jackson. The Warriors need somebody to come off the bench and be a reliable backup point guard, maybe Reggie Jackson?
So I am guessing you have a fondness for a certain player. You hide it well though.
He’s the first best player available who comes to mind. With the money drying up I’m hoping he takes a look up Interstate 5, then crosses over Pacheco pass and jumps on the 101 to the city. If he hurries he can pick up some garlic ice cream next weekend in Gilroy at the festival. That would be a bonus. Reggie, I’ll even buy the ice cream !!
If I ever go to Gilroy I will definitely try the garlic ice cream.
I think it’s only available at the festival in August. Better make plans. You can smell it ten miles away when you drive the 152 West. Oh, and bring your own water..
@greenwood porter and @garywarriorsredsox, I’m from Gilroy. The ice cream IS only available at the garlic festival, which already happened. It’s the last weekend in July. And the ice cream is TERRIBLE!! And I Love garlic.
Congratulation to Oubre
My prediction is Hornets or Raptors
Two teams only
Man, I hate the 5. The smell of cow urine used to make me speed…I floored the gas pedal during that relatively brief stretch.
is someone like, idk… Reggie Jackson available?
You will get Schroder and you will like it.
I thought Dennis Schroder was about the paycheck on this one.., on this contract. Not sure he’ll take that mid-level from the Warriors? Reggie Jackson might, not sure if Dennis Schroder will.
If they traded Paschall to save money then it seems highly doubtful the Warriors plan on using their MLE.
@GreenWood I believe the main purpose of trading Paschall was to open a roster spot, not necessarily a salary dump but they did save bucks
Once they officially sign both Porter and Bjelica the Warriors will only have 12 players on guaranteed contracts (not counting Paschall). Both Damion Lee and Mulder have non-guaranteed contracts, and I think Payton has a partial guarantee that kicks in next week. Unless they plan on keeping all 3 of them then it doesn’t make sense to trade Paschall unless it was to save on luxury taxes.
They have multiple other guys at his position
Good for Kelly oubre Jr. A decent two-year contract for him. This didn’t quite fit The Narrative of being a starter though. Gordon Hayward? Miles Bridges? He may be third on that depth chart unless they play a lot of small ball with either him or the other two at the four.
I’m thinking Oubre starts for Charlotte – not sure he has the “mentality” to be (or to be thought of) a non-starter. He probably should come off the bench, but I think he’ll start more games than not.
You probably assume Hayward will miss a chunk of games.
Oubre will likely be the second-oldest forward (Bridges, Washington, McDaniel, Martins) and if CHA is in a development mood, I think Oubre gets looked past.
Dante Exum and Avery Bradley are still Available. Dennis Schroeder and Reggie Williams are likely out of the Warriors price range.
Also need one more Big man. I do not trust Looney to stay healthy for a second year in a row.
I’m thinking I would stay away from Dante Exum and Avery Bradley. They can’t stay healthy a whole season just like Looney. Is Marquese Chriss an option as a big man? I’m sure they’ll play a lot of small ball 5 with green or the new guy who’s 6-10. Then Looney and Weissman so that’s 4 guys. As you mention, my fingers are crossed they can all stay healthy.
Was Marquese ever really that much of an option as a big man?
I don’t know, I guess he showed flashes. I think they liked his understanding of the game and he was a capable passer to the Cutters or the open jump shooters. He could block a shot here and there and I think he understood defensive positioning to the satisfaction of at least Draymond Green. I would think if he’s healthy he’d be worth taking a flyer on again.
I felt Chriss had a lot more to offer than Looney. If Chriss is healthy (and available) they should grab him.
Definitely should get Chriss back. He was looking good.
He’s as available as they come, but who knows if he’s healthy or not.
Why wouldn’t he be it’s been 9 months. He didn’t have a serious injury. You don’t get he’s only 24. He’s just getting his adult body. Some humans need time to adjust especially those with size. He’s a talented kid that never adjusted to NBA till two yrs ago. He was starting to show imo. He’ll be back
How many times will K.Al say that about Criss, how many more to come.
Who do you mean “you don’t get it” AL.
Everyone in the thread liked Criss. Evrtyone knows the topic. Try to focus that aging mind.
Chriss has looked incredible in summer league and whatever leagues he’s been playing in. I want him on GSW yesterday. Chriss plus a guard or two and GSW is finally back in business.
The HORNETS gave up a cheap, improving, albeit shot-hungry, Monk ……. only to pick-up an expensive, inefficient and shot-hungry, Oubre.
Yup, gotta love MJ’s HORNETS.
I do agree they should have kept Monk, but they drafted Bouknight, and can potentially bring back Riller, and they have the Martin twins, plus they brought in Ish smith, so they should still be fine
Oubre, while he can score based on volume, is known for his D. Monk is more the opposite. Think of Oubre as a young PJ Tucker(?).
Monk had his time, he showed flashes last year but his defense is not good. He’s a poor man’s JR Smith. I think oubre is better even if inconsistent shot, given his defense and cutting.
This is a good signing. Hornets have been going for it. Gotta give them credit. They can still trade for Markkanen. Although that’s probably over ??
Why wouldn’t Warriors do a sign n trade. Don’t get it. They are losing an asset for nothing.
Hornets have depth and talent. Definitely a playoff team. Obrue is a solid sixth man, bench scorer. East is getting tougher and deeper.
Oubre was unrestricted so any sign and trade would have to be agreed to by Oubre’s camp and would only be necessary if his target team didn’t have the cap room to sign him outright. In this case Oubre chased the money, found a suitor with cap room and gave the Dubs the one finger peace sign on the way out
Sign and trade would hard cap them again, and they might not have anyone in mind to take back salary wise, or more likely, they may already he up close to that hardcap (I’m not aware of their current space). They did need to move 1 of Oubre and Wiggins though. They added a floor spacing big, which they needed, and potentially better defense at the backup 4/3 with Kuminga (if they can help him with his awareness issues), and more help on the wing with Moody. They also are bringing back JTA to give them some of that at those positions, and they have multiple guards there already. If they bring back Gary Payton II they should also have that defense next to Steph they needed…and even though I forgot they signed him, if Otoo Porter is healthy, he could theoretically provide them with significant help at the 4/3 positions on both ends of the floor
So looking at it like that makes it more difficult to see where else they need additions. Their roster is essentially full. I see 5 guys that you can possibly argue about upgrading from…Gary Payton II, Mychal Mulder, Damion Lee, Jordan Poole, and James Wiseman. I doubt they get rid of the latter 2, and they need shooting at the backup guard position, so at least 1 of Mulder and Lee stays. Payton gives them something they’ve needed with a guard that can defend off the bench, playmake, and play next to Steph. There are couple of guys left that might be useful there. Shaq Harrison, Frank Ntilikina, Jeremiah Martin, Dante Exum and then probably slightly more costly guys like Tyler Johnson, Langston Galloway, Avery Bradley…you can also look more at defense from the 2/3 spots instead, with Isaac Bonga, or more costly guys like TLC, Andre Iguodala, DeAndre Bembry, Thanasis…Justise Winslow could also be an option, but you kind of lose some of his versatility b/c you have so many guys at the 4, but he can still fit as a guard…
Not sure what a bunch of those guys prices might be, most of them are probably gettable at the minimum, but I essentially only see 1 or 2 roster spots even currently left available…but I could be wrong
Also, I havent had too much opportunity to watch as in depth as I usually do for summer league yet, and it’s only been 2 games, but I like what I see from Justin Schakel in the few minutes I’ve watched so far, and could see him being 1 of their 2 way guys, assuming they’re only keeping Mannion. I could see him as at least a camp invitee, depending on what they do with Damion Lee and Mulder. He has some Duncan Robinson in him
Yes , forgot about Porter. So finally they are looking at cap. Warriors don’t really care about cap though. They will do what’s best to make this final run. Next 3 yrs. That’s their window. Porter will be interesting to watch. Finally can help a team. See if he steps up.
Hornets do not have anyone to sign and trade. Rozier is the only player close to that contract and the Hornets is not giving him up.
Agreed – this is definitely a downgrade from Monk. Oubre is a legend in his own mind. As a Warriors fan living in DC I had a chance to see a lot of Charlotte this year and, when Monk was on, that dude stood out as an assassin on a team of young and exciting players. I was perplexed to see him and another young stud Kendrick Dunn go to the Lakers on a minimum contract when so many other teams could have payed them more handsomely for their services (like My Dubs, sigh)
I’d be so bummed going from Monk to Oubre, Oubre is a real-life Zoolander character too concerned with posing than winning.
As Dubs fans, we have now gotten rid of all the low IQ guys, and they have all been replaced by high IQ guys. Hmmm… sounds good???
Oubre was just inconsistent. Some days he was motivated other days just watch Curry run around. He probably could have resigned for that amount but thinks he is a starter not a bench player.
As a Warriors fan with him and Pascal traded for nothing. This solidifies this year, they ain’t winning anything. Another useless year. Looking forward to the 2022-2023 season
It’s Paschall. Some fan lol
Did you watch one minute of any game last season where Bazemore, Oubre and Wanamaker logged serious minutes? If anything GSW is a shoo-in for the #1 spot now all these morons have been replaced by high IQ guys! Give me Porter, Moody and Bjelica over those idiots all day hahaha
Its also Moody > Oubre alllll day, from Moody’s day 1. THATS how irrelevant Oubre is as an NBA player. Terrible move by Charlotte, but thanks as a GSW fan!
Where was Paschall going to play on this roster? He’d get 5 minutes a game. He never felt like a Warrior anyway, to those who actually watched him. Not Kerr’s style at all.
I would have kept Paschall because cheap contract and he is a big body off the bench. they will miss him more than Oubre. Once Thompson is back at regular minutes it will be tough for other players to get minutes.
Hornets Rilly need to find minutes for Riller.
Sengun was the best weapon at #11.
CHA stays at 10th
Getting Kai was a nice rebound but it won’t help the immediate
I thought they’d keep one of Monk or Graham, but back courts get expensive fast so a Ball Bouknight pairing makes sense if they are sold on Bouk
I like this Oubre ink, it’s a good fit for him, but we shall see for Cha, super moveable tho if not
I hate to say but Hou had my favorite draft w Sengun/Garuba pulls
Play-in indeed
Why did the Knicks choose Fournier over Oubre? The Knicks possibly could of gotten both
B/c Fournier fits better, although I question not bringing back Bullock b/c you could argue you needed another piece like him, in addition to keeping him…they kind of have a lot of guys that need the ball in their hand, which might turn into a problem. I’m not sure if I would have gone for both Fournier, and bringing back Burks b/c I feel like there is some redundancy there, but they will have depth in case of injury to honestly a couple of guys with injury histories
Honestly though, if RJ Barrett takes another step forward, I dont think it matters much.
Oubre shot selection would give Thibs a heart attack. He’s a knucklehead.
Shooting
I am not seeing Kai or Garuba being near ready. These young guys can cost roster in-flexibilty while they develop. I doubt CHA should invest in wings while MilesB & PJW are still only 22 and still developing… It’s a long tie-up. Sengun should be good 1v1 quickly.
I tune in Oly to check out Garuba, but wow Rubio, and the Cavs got him!
Hou has time on it’s side w Garuba , might be a tricky contract to navigate as well (which is why I think he fell to 23)
Cha will run small next year, Kai if he hits his ceiling is a good pairing w Ball but yea it’s gonna be awhile
I don’t mind that for Cha at this moment tho, this should be a slow methodical burn and I think it has been so far
* I bet Oubre and his agent asked for a 1/13 and Cha used they’re leverage to get the 2/26 they felt was more valuable to them.
His prototype will be too much in demand moving forward for this contract to ever get underwater unless he just completely bottoms out which I don’t see happening .
This is good day 3 business, wonder if GSW kicks in a 2nd tomorrow for a possible TPE when things get more official
I like the signing! Good fit and was a need behind Hayward. His 3pt shot has been inconsistent but he shot way better in second half last year.
Seems hornets will play plenty of small ball lineups also.
The “Joker” move by Lacob here is to convince Schroeder to come here on a smallish “prove it” deal and be a proper 6th man who is above everything, a team guy and who helps them to the title. He can change the narrative on him to “unselfish winner” and he gets to stick it to the Lakers by getting past them in the playoffs, and proving he is an unselfish player who can operate in any role.
It can be easily sold to him as “anything to beat the Lakers” and he might buy into it. Schroeder by far has the highest talent level and ceiling out of anyone left, but the mental on him is what’s always in question. He’s like 5x the talent Oubre is. GSW should sell him on proving everyone wrong about him, and he can be a FA next year as a champion.
12.5M is actually good value. I think he’s just a Michael Beasley clone, good for the Hornets for not overspending like they did on Gordon. Not a fan of their Plumlee deal. I think they could have gone after Nurkic if they dealt Bridges who currently projects as the 6th/7th man, esp with signing Oubre.
Plumlee’s clearly not a rim runner … Wiseman is a good target for Cha