Warriors owner Joe Lacob is high on the team’s young prospects, according to Anthony Slater of The Athletic, who told Michael Scotto on the HoopsHype Podcast that Lacob values Jonathan Kuminga and Moses Moody more than other teams do right now. As a result, the odds of either rookie being included in a trade this season – for Ben Simmons or anyone else – are very low.
Lacob’s desire to develop players like Kuminga, Moody, and James Wiseman into cornerstones for the next era of Warriors basketball would seem to be at odds with Stephen Curry‘s desire to maximize the team’s current window, Slater observes. However, Curry signed a new four-year extension with Golden State this offseason and seems “pretty dead set” on finishing his career with the team, according to Slater.
Slater believes Curry, Klay Thompson, and Draymond Green would ideally like to continue playing for the Warriors and pursuing titles together for the rest of their careers. However, Slater views Green as less of a sure thing than Curry to play his entire career in Golden State, noting that Damian Lillard and the Trail Blazers would “love” to acquire the former Defensive Player of the Year if the opportunity arises. Green is under contract through 2022/23.
“If another team is willing to give Draymond a contract that the Warriors aren’t in a couple of years, I could see that going differently, even if their dream scenario would be to play forever,” Slater told Scotto.
Here’s more on the Warriors:
- According to Slater on the HoopsHype podcast, Klay Thompson has participated in some two-on-two workouts and some “very controlled” contact work. Mid-December is probably the earliest Thompson would come back from his Achilles tear, per Slater, who says the team would be fine with pushing Klay’s return into the new year if he doesn’t feel quite ready next month.
- If Andre Iguodala plays beyond the 2021/22 season, it would only be with the Warriors, Slater opines. Slater also expects the team to play it safe with the veteran wing during the season, resting him frequently to make sure he’s fresh for the stretch run and the postseason.
- The Warriors have assigned Jonathan Kuminga and Moses Moody to the G League in order to have them play in Santa Cruz’s game against the Ignite on Wednesday, tweets Slater. The two lottery picks have played very limited minutes at the NBA level so far.
cornerstones for next era … LoL
Current cornerstones picked
#7
#11
#33.
Future cornerstones picked
#7
#14
#30.
What’s so funny about that?
(Plus Wiseman #2.)
Wiseman will prove a wasted #2 pick. He may end up close to a 10/10 guy but his style does not fit the Warriors style of okay. Hell be a soft 10/10 guy that won’t be worth a 2nd contract.
Lmfao. You gotta chill out. Wiseman isn’t even old enough to drink, but your crystal ball’s got his entire future panned out? You don’t know any more than anyone else does, so stop pretending like he’s Marvin Bagley. He did about as well as anyone expects of any high schooler to do in the NBA(no, I didn’t count 3 games at Memphis.)
Wiseman is a bright kid, but he’s still a kid. If you were expecting him to be 20/10 out of the gate, then I’m sorry because that doesn’t happen to teams that have a current group in play.
They ran one game last year where they ran pick n rolls for wiseman and he put up 25/7. In one of his first games, he looked like he belonged on the court with Giannis.
He is the most athletic 7fter in the league, and he hasn’t bought a beer yet.
Giannis didn’t look too freakish at Wiseman’s age either. So just chill out…it’s kinda weird.
I’m not even a wiseman fan, but you can judge a pick on his first season, if the dubs did that, then they’d be missing out of Jordan Poole and Draymond. Some guys take some time to adjust. The Warriors found out about Klay’s injury the day of the draft. You don’t change your plans you’ve had all year long just because something happened the day of. Everyone and their mom said “Wiseman is exactly what they need!” And don’t pretend you didn’t read those articles or see those headlines because everyone was excited.
Wiseman wasn’t given enough to fail yet. They haven’t allowed him to make any mistakes on the court, so damn right he hasn’t had the chance to learn from them. LaMelo literally was given the keys to the offense. As was Anthony Edwards. Both didn’t look great day 1! Both have played over 50 more NBA games than Wiseman! It’s silly to judge a player when he wasn’t even on the team this time last year(remember when we had the draft in November?)
Sure, I wanted trade Wiseman for Xavier Tillman, Grayson Allen and Kyle Anderson, and I would trade Wiseman for Saddiq Bey in a heartbeat, but until then he’s on the Warriors and he’s our guy.
(I wanted to trade back to 10-15, acquire a vet center in the trade down, then use the new lower pick to select Saddiq Bey or even Halliburton, but Bey was my guy, and he’s been fun to watch.)
Green is looking like the DPOY early this season. Almost every team in the NBA wants Green on their team. He disrupts the offense of opponents. Its going to come down to him or Rudy at the end of the year for best defensive player.
Philly could use Green… bad. They need that tough, gritty guy to light a fire in that team on the court and in the lockerroom. Similar to what Butler did for them. But do it without alienating the coaches.
Draymond was +3300 to win DPOY, and I thought that was a good bet to take. Either Draymond, Bam, or Gobert are probably going to win it
34 years old Draymond has no market in 2024 free agency
Think again. Every team he plays against wants him on their team. If Gobert is a free agent every team in the NBA would want him.
Joe Lacob is not qualified to determine which players are worthy of being viewed as “cornerstones” of the future. Maybe he is just repeating the views of Bob Myers and the other actual basketball people in the organization but if not that is a problem.
Not qualified? He’s the owner and has the final say. If he wants Jonathan kuminga, Moses Moody, James Wiseman, and Jordan Poole to be cornerstones of the future he has final say. He can make them cornerstones if he wants to.., he’s absolutely qualified…, he owns the team.
Sure, as the owner, Lacob can choose to make Chris Chiozza a cornerstone if he wants to. But having the executive power do that is not the same as having the basketball knowledge to identify players with the talent that is worthy of being designated a cornerstone player. I like Moody as a future rotational player. Steve Kerr compared him to Trevor Ariza. Has Trevor Ariza ever been looked at by anyone as a cornerstone player?
But, he didn’t. So, what are you whining about?
Moody is in his first year. The warriors team is so deep this year he will not get many minutes. Many players do not show promise in first 2 years. Giannis was not a coner stone stats player his first 2 years.
Kuminga could be the next Giannis or a Thanassis …
“Lacob’s desire to develop players like Kuminga, Moody, and James Wiseman into cornerstones for the next era of Warriors.”
If this is the desire then get these guys NBA minutes both players are NBA caliber players. The g-league is great but it functions better to develop players who are little more raw than these guys.
That’s why they signed NB and Otto Porter Jr and Andre Iguodala. To win now. Sure development will happen for the three young guys if they played more but you don’t want to sacrifice wins for development THIS year.
They can develop running back and forth to the G league and getting minutes over the course of the Year in spot Duty in NBA games. It’s going to take a couple of years.
Development won’t happen this season and suddenly they’re all stars. The Warriors know what they’re doing. Key concept: 3 years.
Key concept is win now god damn, you can’t pass the 3 splash bro’prime + Kerr … Lacob signed only 3 minimum contracts to win this year title (Otto injury prone, Ai 2nd oldest NBA player, NB best choice) … after Oubre 80M$ panic buy last year + Wiseman over Lamelo which is a futur NBA cornerstone, i am clearly not all in about Lacob’s bb vision.
What deal would you have had them made? Most of the players they liked just never became available. Simmons for everything was the only win now deal on the table and the ask was dumb. They tried to sign Gay and Patty Mills and a few other targets like Batum with the MLE who said no since they still werent viewed as being back. OPJ, Nem, Iggy have been awesome signings on the minimum, and Poole, Lee, JTA are all great rotation pieces on next to nothing contracts.
Lamelo couldnt shoot according to everyone he was at 3 or lower on more boards than he was at 2 on, had the Levar baggage. Also do you really see Lamelo having the same opportunity on the GSW he did in CHA where he just gets the ball and runs the show?
If they were to flip Wiseman at some point last offseason was the lowest his value could be unless he flames out completely. They may look to make a move, but the value of the kids is way higher later than it is now as unproven draft picks. Why at this point when you have them would you not play them some this season to see what you really have before moving on?
The real truth fans arent getting is that the FO is not all in on this season yet. They want to see what they have and what they need, because next season is the one where your more likely to have 2 healthy and fully effective splash brothers. The timeline on Klay being actually back 100% is like 18 months from injury. So this season you do what you can in the playoffs and see what pieces fit on the team, and next offseason you get ring chasers and go fully all in. Also by then you would hope revenue is back closer to full so they can afford to pay whatever tax.
Also I like that the team has like 14-15 they can run out on any given night with the ability to rest just about anyone, and never having to worry your tossing just scrubs out.
I still do think like @greenwood porter GS cannot develop and chase a ring at the same time but hope for the dubs fans u right …
The Warriors didn’t pay Oubre $80 million last season. Why do you keep saying these stupid things.
Moody Wiseman & Kuminga are absolutely raw and would benefit from game reps not casual practice reps. They’re young and not as effective as their talents, what raw means… though if someone says it as a descriptor, they might mean more raw than those 3 are. NBA teams are for winning not training.
They’re stuck between being a competitive team with their established veterans, and a team that’s building for the future with their young prospects. You can’t have it both ways, the Warriors should either focus on getting back to the playoffs after missing them twice in a row, or start the re-build sooner rather than later and allow their recent lottery picks to develop.
If it does take 18 months for Klay to be back to 100% that makes the situation even more difficult. They could quite possibly miss the playoffs for a 3rd straight season which would make the idea of starting the re-build next season even more logical.
BS. You can rebuild and aim for the playoffs. Just look at the SF Giants. They are still in rebuild mode. They made it to the playoffs last season.
You have no idea when Klay is coming back. Why do you keep saying you do?
In situations where they dont have Otto Porter or Andre Iguodala, I could see Kuminga getting a look in those minutes, and when they dont have Poole or Damion Lee, I could see Moody getting opportunities in those minutes. In certain matchups, I could see Wiseman getting minutes as their big off the bench, instead of Bjelica as a floor spacing playmaker, or even next to him against maybe someone else’s multibig lineup
Yes exactly.
Warriors are coming out the shadows like Batman. Poole looks like Klay and if Klay looks like Klay it’s lights out.