Knicks star Julius Randle is skeptical of any trade rumors involving him ahead of Thursday’s deadline, Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News writes.
“That sounds like gossip,” Randle said when asked about those rumors, as relayed by Joshua Richards of The Knicks Wall (Twitter link).
New York has struggled this season, owning a 24-29 record through 53 games. The team is just 2-8 in its last 10 games. For his part, Randle has averaged 18.7 points, 10.0 rebounds and 5.1 assists in 35.3 minutes per game — those marks are all down from last season.
“I trust (the front office), trust Jim (Dolan), everybody,” Randle said. “I feel like they’ll do what’s best for the team. I’ll ride with it whatever way they go.”
There’s more out of the Atlantic tonight:
- Raptors guard Fred VanVleet has committed to participate in the three-point contest over All-Star Weekend, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic (Twitter link). VanVleet has connected on 39% of his three-pointers this season. The 27-year-old will also compete in the All-Star Game for the first time in his career.
- The Celtics have discovered their third star in Robert Williams, Chris Forsberg of NBC Sports opines. Teammate Jayson Tatum also praised Williams, mentioning he believes the 24-year-old has All-Star potential. “I feel like I talk about Rob every day,” he said. “Maybe All-Star aside, I think Rob has the potential to win Defensive Player of the Year one year, one of these days. I think that’s in his future coming up.”
- Knicks guard RJ Barrett received support from a high-profile opponent on Saturday: Lakers superstar LeBron James. As Marc Berman of the New York Post writes, James has long been impressed with Barrett, who finished with 38 points when the teams played. “I’ve been knowing RJ for quite a while now,” James said. “I was in Toronto during the summertime, I think he was a high school junior, and there was a call to my agent, Rich [Paul] that there was a kid in Toronto that was possibly next [one]. And it was offseason. I was in Toronto, just having a good time in Toronto. But I was going to the gym to get some work in and they called Rich and asked, ‘Can he join?’ And I was like, absolutely. So, I’ve been knowing him quite a while. I followed him throughout those last few years of high school and obviously off to Duke and now as a Knick.”
The Knicks compete with the kings for the worst FO in the league. Probably that’s why Al overrates Fox so much, like he did with Randle and Fournier
Kings win and it’s not close
Yeah you’re talking about a team that was a 4 seed in the East last year. If my Kings could even come close to smelling an 8 seed I’d be set for life at this point.
You’re talking about a team that plays at Madison Square Garden vs a team that plays in the 22nd largest metro area in the county, which has no other major professional team and barely its own downtown. I think one of them is playing with a considerably bigger handicap.
Yeah, come on, Kings FO is by far the worst in the NBA. The Knicks FO made their mistakes this past offseason, but the fact that the rumour mill has the Kings potentially interested in a Randle/Fox swap is all you need to know in this argument.
Yes, it was an overpay for Fournier, but getting a guy who shoots 40% from 3 and doesn’t need to be the focal point of the offence at $18M per isn’t horrible. THJ, Duncan Robinson, Danilo, Bogdan, and Hield all make similar salaries and are not contributing at the rate Fournier is.
Are you all saying trading Fox for Randle is dumb? Because I’m not so sure. De’Aaron hitting about 25% of his 3’s this year, and he’s never been good at it. As a PG only, he’s pretty limited, kind of like Simmons without the size and D, basically a fast break ball handler and that’s it. I’d rather have Randle myself, especially if I’ve got Mitchell and Halliburton to handle the backcourt.
Spot on with the Fox assessment.
Fournier is a disaster. If his salary was $1.8M, I might be ok with that.
Don’t forget Dinwiddie too. Who looks completely awful right now. I muted Al because I’m sure he’s still condescending people who disagree with him. Probably still “schooling” people who don’t watch basketball or know what they’re talking about lol.
It’s been my opinion for a while that the Knicks just don’t have enough talent, and Randall isn’t fit for being a number one. I’m not quite ready to say he’s gotta go, but his attitude needs to change asap. I’m giving him leeway because he said publicly he wanted to be a Knick and embraced NY.
I do like Fox, and would love to acquire him. He shoots a high percentage, .450 career for a pg isn’t bad. I think he’s over 50% on his 2 pointers in his career. He just turned 24. He’s capable of 7 assists a game and hopefully can improve on that too. How many coaches and teammates has he had to adjust too in sac lol. He can work on his free throws and threes and really reach another level. But that’s where scouting and knowing him personally helps, to see if he has that drive and work ethic. That I can’t speculate on.
It’ll be interesting to see what the Knicks do. But I do trust Rose and Wes. We’re headed in the right direction, after being in really bad shape for a long time. In the meanwhile I’ll pray these rumors about D Mitchell wanting out of Utah and wanting to come here are true.
The Mets connection. Now if Mahomes could force a trade…
What do you mean by the Mets connection? I get the maholmes part. His pops was a reliever for the Mets. But what’s that got to with the Knicks?
Mitchel’s dad is in the Mets front office.
Wow, I did not know that!
You are confused. I’ve never been a big Randle guy. I respect what he did last yr. And it showed a player can still get better at 26. I’m not a fan club kid like most of you on here. Don’t confuse my rooting for a team. With real knowledge of that team. I don’t run Knicks and they do t listen to me.
But if you really read what I post over the 5 plus yrs I’ve been on here. You’d know I should run this team. There is nothing I don’t know about them. But it’s not my call.
Try talking facts instead of calling out names like a ten yr old. You really do t want me on you. I’ll show this board who you really are. It won’t be pretty. I promise. You address me personally and show respect and I’ll do the same. Wether we agree or not. Or we can go the other way. Your choice
Randle was on the outs here when Thibs came. Most in NY had had it with him. I was part of few who still saw a talent. But not the performance of a team winner in Randle. He was that close but not that close. If you can get that.
Thibs and drafting Obi. Brought out the best, that talent in Randle. He played smart, both ways, and led by example. His trophy’s tell you that. Unfortunately with the fans back and the scrutiny. He seems he is wilting under it. He’s trying too hard to prove his worth. And his ego has him playing like two yrs ago. There’s just so much time you can give someone to get it. He’s running out of time. Cause this team needs to move forward with its rebuild. We don’t need to go backwards cause a players feelings are hurt.
The TEAM is what this is about. Not any player. One day you might get that.
Fournier was the best shooter FA out there. He’s also a scorer shooter. I’ll admit his D needs help. But I see bad instincts not bad talent. Comes from not playing D most times. Euro players mostly have this issue. Doesn’t mean you can’t be a team D player. Our whole team D is down this yr. But why would you know that or care. It’s just better Making remarks about it. That’s so witty.
Then there’s Fox. Now here you are just showing your ignorance. And your inability to to take me on. I’ve never talked about Fox ever. Except in his draft. When I said he’s a pusher like Wall. But he’s still young and will need time.
Until about a week ago. I said the only real PGs out there. That we can realistically get. And said I’m ready for Fox. Cause we can’t wait any longer to address the PG issue. And there’s been rumors Kings are listening to offers. I also said we should of signed Dinwiddie. When he was a FA. So trying to get a PG for my team is a point of ridicule for you. Like I said. Your ignorance clowns yourself. You gotta be the weakest link on here. So from now on I’m going to showcase how Weak Your Game Is.
I consider it my duty
Fox because he pushes the ball. Can work in NY imo. But I said to move Randle to get him. Cause then RJ and Obi can run with him. And Fournier can just spot up for a good look. Yeah I want him that way. I guess you conveniently left that out. Don’t know why you bring this on yourself
The quote from LeBron in these links says absolutely nothing.
Anyone else see the irony in a dude who builds schools and does a lot of charity to improve education for children, but doesn’t use proper grammar? He must know “ I been knowing him” is not proper lol. Those kids he’s trying to help get an education listen and look up to him. Obviously not a big deal, just wondering if anyone else thinks that’s kinda funny.
I think it’s funny that you ranted a whole paragraph on something that is “obviously not a big deal”.
Lebron was answering a reporters question, not writing an academic paper. You’re just nit picking some BS, and you know what you’re doing. You also sound like a racist tbh
How the f*ck did you manage to equate what he said to being racist?? That was a pretty special reach right there… Lol geez…
His grammar is worse and he’s criticizing a man who will have books written about him. Like talking is going to affect them more than not having all the opportunities he provides. That’s not critique. That’s hating. Thats what propels him to post. Not talking about ball. He got no game. And can only do this on a keyboard.
So you think a black man’s use of words. Wether it’s good grammar or not. Is something that should be criticized on a basketball forum. The greatest player of this generation.
That’s what hating is all about.
“That’s what hating is all about.”
@ KnickerbockerAl;
You seem to know not just what everyone in basketball should be doing, but what opinions and observations posters here are allowed to have.
Since you brought the subject up, I personally find many of Mr. James’ comments over the years to be hateful, prejudiced, disrespectful, and – as you would put it – moronic.
Nevertheless, this is still America and free speech – at least for a bit longer – will be tolerated. So in cases such as Mr. James’, I feel Mark Twain said it best:
“It’s better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
@Samuel strong quote man.
I like the “updated”/rephrased version of it (can’t remember who said it):
“It’s better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and go ahead and lock it in.”
Marks quote was for you Samuel.
Find yourself a clue.
But also very on brand for LeBron. Sure, he’s not a bad human being or anything, but the word manufactured does come to mind. Moreso for other stuff than for this, obviously. As you said, the irony here is funny.
Yeah I figured there’s be some backlash. Anytime you criticize a star on this site that happens. Which is why I tried to make it clear it was meant as a lighthearted comment, not a racist rant as you took it. I guess I wouldn’t be the first minority racist if I was racist, but come on man. You seem very sensitive. Sorry I hurt your feelings.
Was just trying to share a thought that I found to be funny. It’s definitely ironic to me though.
Lyman you started off today by saying Russ has achieved nothing, talking about his relationship with “the hood” and then mocking how he dressed. Al rightfully had issues with what you said and you commented back saying it’s ridiculous to bring up personal points in a discussion about sports. I told you this morning it was too early to teach you about irony. I wish you would have done some looking into it on your own as your clearly still don’t understand it.
I’d also like to add, you calling people sensitive in a thread started by your need to call out someone who said mean things to you is reminiscent of the pot calling the kettle urban
I have no idea what your point is, besides that you didn’t like any of my posts. Noted, thank you. What’s a bonercat by the way?
The point is you were having a fit that posters weren’t keeping the conversation on basketball when the majority of the backlash you got from your comments was because of your problems with Russ off the court. Again. Irony.
It wasn’t really off the court though. I mentioned a lot about his game. The comment about he’s already a champion because he made it out of the hood was on court related. Do you think LeBron who was from the hood in Akron Ohio appreciated that statement when he brought in Russell to get another ring? You can agree or disagree, but that’s about his mentality, which effects his on the court performance. The fact that he seems so focused on fashion and wearing weird skirt ensembles instead of focusing on basic defensive fundamentals like not double teaming Reggie Jackson on the weak side and giving him baseline to a game winning layup while reeves is guarding him properly, is also on the court.
I think that’s all fair. Not sure what your issue is with me man. He’s never made any team he’s been on better. He always makes bad decisions down the stretch in games. Your point is that you think I’m being personal about people but then complaining about people getting personal. But I’m just critiquing a public figure and their persona publicly. Which I think is indicative of their mentality on the court which leads to failure to win important games.
If that doesn’t make sense to you then I’m sorry. I think I got just as much if not more support than backlash anyways. And people bringing rave into the mix is just shameful. Especially when I’m not even white.
Bonercat is a reference to a Funny or die sketch about the now Washington Commanders btw
I love funny or die, at least we can agree on that
It’s not his or anyone else’s fault that you can’t read and saying you’re too stupid to understand what you read doesn’t insult the writer as much as you seem to think.
Just an fyi…we can all read what you weren’t able to read. It’s still right there for crying out loud. WTF?
What I find funny is how seriously some people takes grammar, or speaking properly… does anyone still care in the 21st century about that?
I don’t, I am fluent in 4 languages & I couldn’t care like at all about grammar, languages are a way to understand one another & unite people, sadly the grammar police uses language to separate people!
If you go to Italy or Spain or Germany and speak their native language with a clear English accent, you think they don’t scoff at you and give you attitude? Think again.
Also, I didn’t say I had a problem with his improper grammar, but just pointed out the irony of how he does so much gracious charity to educate young kids in school, but yet doesn’t follow the teachings of those schools himself. And yes, they emphasize grammar and proper English in schools. Why is this so controversial lol? Yes schools care. Ever wright an essay in college or even high school mr 4 languages?
Write*
Have you ever left the country? SMH
Lighthearted racism is ok because you don’t want to be racist?
Is it that important to insult someones conversational grammer?
You’re either a racist or so clueless you can’t avoid sounding like one. Neither is a good look.
Muted
Anyone else noticing a theme…
Kings: Julius Randle and Kemba Walker
Knicks: DeAaron Fox and Marvin Bagley
Who says no?
Kings give Haliburton the point guard position and keys to the franchise. They get him a second star in Julius Randle who fits really well. They also bag Kemba who can act as a experienced 6th man beg for this team.
They line up
Haliburton Heild Barnes Randle Holmes
Bench: Kemba Mitchell Davis Metu Len
Knicks seem to really want a point guard and also not really want Randle. This deals clears Randle and gets them back a fringe all star in Fox who can run the point guard position. They also get Marvin Bagley as a replacement for Randle in the meantime.
They line up
Fox Fouriner Barrett Bagley Noel
Bench: DRose Burks Reddish Toppin Robinson
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Knicks then line up getting rid of Fouriner and Burks aswell.
However they would have a solid young core of Fox Quickly McBride Barrett Grimes Reddish Toppin Bagley and Robinson.
Next yr there are no FA PGs. This yr there are no PGs available. So if you can get a Fox or a Dinwiddie. Knicks have to look into it. I definitely do the Fox deal if we can move Randle. Obi is ready to start. He can give us 16-18 points easy. So we won’t lose anything. I would throw in a#1 pick for that. The lowest of ours or Dallas pick. I’ve always liked Bagley. I still see a future for him. Even it’s first big off the bench.
Not bad analysis. I’ll take it as a Knick fan. Only discrepancy I have with you is that Robinson starts for NY, not Noel. Also, if we deal Randall then I want Obi starting over Bagley.
Yeah I agree, I’d have Toppin and Robinson as a duo and Bagley and Noel as a duo. Which one starts is Thibs choice but these should be he two combinations.
Wrong PG. Haliburton. He’s the guy the Knicks should pry away if they can and wish they had grabbed him instead of Obi when they had the chance. Fox is the new Westbrook – clanks from 15 feet away. Fast as hell, but that doesn’t age well.
If that’s true then why does he have a .500+ career fg% for his career on 2 pointers? I’ll admit, I don’t watch a lot of Kings games. So that’s a genuine question.
Anything inside 15 feet and he’s fine, especially on his drives. He’s a solid transition player, but get him caught in a half court game and he’s not as effective. Westbrook’s success is his motor. He’s getting older and those legs don’t support a questionable jump shot to begin with, hence the decline. I can see a similar path for Fox.
Fair
Kings value Haliburton more and I think they are better off keeping him and build with him.
Knicks should be happy to get Fox, don’t be greedy going for Halliburton and miss out altogether on both of them.
Fox I think suits NY and that team under Thibs. I think him and DRose would be great. I think Randles game also really suits Halliburton.
So all the RJ haters in hiding ……
Takes on the best player of this generation. Demanding to guard him. Then puts up 36 on Lakers. The trolls have trolled away …..
Lebron kisses butt so when he retires they will kiss his butt
The Knicks FO is the maybe the most disappointing. This relatively new group started off well for the most part with short term and well-priced contracts to guys like Noel Burks and Rose and some pick accumulation in the draft but the extensions they handed out this year took away all the cap space they worked so hard to preserve and all they walked away with was Fournier. They again moved back in the draft and now they gave away the Charlotte pick they moved down for for a guy Thibs doesn’t want to play in Reddish and they could have had Cam Thomas but instead went with Grimes.
Fox has been the league awhile, and his major accomplishment has been becoming a max player on a losing team. He’s a young player with some real talents, but not those that fit best in the modern NBA. It’s not the 1970’s, it’s a half court game, particularly in the playoffs, and he can’t shoot and is only a decent facilitator. Of course, the playoffs haven’t been a concern for him or his team so far. I’d LOVE to have him on a RSC. But on a max deal where the NYK can only lose or tie, I’ll pass.
I’m neutral on moving Randle, but – contrary to what many on this board think – his contract isn’t a bad one (at least in the trade market) and can be readily moved for value (at least at this point). But even if they do, they should be able to find a better fit. How about a player who’s played on winning teams? Just to give it a try, I know its crazy.
I’m pretty sure his career fg% is higher than any other guard or wing on the Knicks right now. But I’ll admit I haven’t seen him play much at all. Looking at numbers isn’t the whole picture.
His career eFG% (which is all I care about) is average, or below, for a PG, and – while he’s young – it’s NOT ascending. His max salary is higher than all but a few PGs, and its on the books beyond the balance of the initial 4 year rebuild period.
He’s not the Kings best player, and they have a worse record than the Knicks, with all their troubles. Look, GO get him, he’s fun to watch, but please no expectations that this is a guy will carry us much further than he has the Kings. The odds of him EVER being the kind of impact player than Randle was last year (lifting a sub 20 win team to 41-31) are far lower than Randle returning to that (I don’t expect either, but the latter is at least plausible); and Fox makes more money.
Especially at PG!
Winning impacts is critical at PG and if there is no sign a PG impacts winning he is not the PG you want.
It is that simple.