9:00pm: The trade is now official, the Pacers announced in a press release.
4:36pm: The second-rounder being sent to Sacramento in the deal is actually a 2023 pick that will be convey if it lands anywhere from 31-55, per Sam Amick of The Athletic (Twitter links).
12:37pm: The Pacers have agreed to send Domantas Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday to the Kings in exchange for Tyrese Haliburton, Buddy Hield and Tristan Thompson, reports ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.
Sacramento will also receive a 2027 second-round pick in the trade, according to Wojnarowski. That pick will presumably be the Utah selection the Pacers acquired from Cleveland on Monday, since Indiana has traded away its own 2027 second-rounder.
The deal involves two teams that have been trying to shake up their rosters ahead of Thursday’s trade deadline. Both are in the middle of disappointing seasons, with the Pacers 13th in the East at 19-36 and the Kings, who were open about their need to make the playoffs heading into the season, stuck at 13th in the West at 20-35, two games out of the final play-in spot.
Sabonis, who was an All-Star in 2020 and 2021, carries a $19.8MM cap hit this season, tweets ESPN’s Bobby Marks. As Marks notes, Sabonis’ cap figure is expected to eventually drop to $18.5MM this season and $19.4MM next year because his All-Star bonus will be considered unlikely going forward.
Sabonis’ production has remained steady at 18.9 points, 12.1 rebounds and 5.0 assists through 47 games, but the Pacers have been looking to break up the combination of Sabonis and Myles Turner.
Lamb has an expiring $10.5MM deal, while Holiday is under contract for $6MM and $6.3MM next season. The Kings will create a $4MM trade exception in the deal, Marks adds.
It’s a fascinating deal for the Kings, since reports in recent weeks repeatedly stated they preferred to build around Haliburton and De’Aaron Fox going forward. They relented on Haliburton in order to land a star center and will now move ahead with rookie Davion Mitchell as Fox’s potential long-term backcourt partner. It’s unclear whether more moves are coming for Sacramento, which still has a frontcourt logjam that includes center Richaun Holmes.
The Pacers, meanwhile, acquire a potential future star in Haliburton, who has emerged as a full-time starter this season and is averaging 14.3 points, 3.9 rebounds and 7.4 assists in 51 games. He will make $4.2MM and $5.8MM over the next two seasons and will be eligible for a rookie scale extension in the summer of 2023.
Indiana also lands Hield, who has a $23.1MM salary this year that will drop to $21.2MM next season and $19.3MM in 2023/24, and Thompson, who has a $9.7MM expiring deal. The Pacers will create a $10.5MM trade exception, according to Marks (Twitter link).
The trade leaves Indiana $615K below the luxury tax line, though Hield has nine bonuses in his contract that could affect that, Marks adds (via Twitter). Two of them are considered likely — fewer than two turnovers per game and finishing in the top 10 in made three-pointers — which would add up to $595,962 and push team salary dangerously close to the threshold. If the Pacers make more deals this week, they’ll likely try to trim a little more salary to create additional breathing room below the tax line.
Indiana was said to be seeking a Nikola Vucevic-esque package of several draft picks and/or young prospects in exchange for Sabonis. However, as we noted when we previewed the trade deadline for Central teams last week, the Pacers have historically preferred to acquire packages headlined by promising NBA-ready players rather than draft picks when they’ve traded away stars. The team first acquired Sabonis along with Victor Oladipo for Paul George in a 2017 blockbuster that was widely panned by experts at the time.
Sabonis and Oladipo both eventually developed into All-Stars in Indiana, and now the Pacers will hope for the same from Haliburton, a potential two-way impact player who is still just 21 years old.
Wow
Haliburton is better than Maxey
Maxey plays more minutes per game
Haliburton are better in everything else.
Assists
Haliburton 7.3
Maxey 4.8
We all know Haliburton is better than Maxey.
76ers fans disagree.
I’m not a Sixers fan and I disagree. Haliburton is a better passer. Maxey is a better defender and slightly better shooter and more assertive. I’d say they’re a wash.
Tyrese Maxey is DEFINITELY not a better defender than Tyrese Haliburton. Never has been, never will be. I’m not sure what made you even say that. Both guys are very talented guards but Haliburton is better defensively in pretty much every way (hands, length, desire, strength, IQ)
Ok bruh.
Haliburton is a better PG. That isn’t even debata
Obviously
Outside of people related to Maxey, you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks he’s as good a player as Haliburton.
ratio
Why? This trade seems bad from the Kings side, but not really what the Pacers should have wanted in a package outside Halliburton.
SAC clearly wins by a country mile this trade… not even close, I mean Sabonis is the best player, there is no world in which Haliburton will ever be as good as Sabonis, so great for SAC, very poor for IND as a matter of fact!
The hell? Sabonis getting dealt isn’t surprising but getting dealt to another team going nowhere for their best player is just odd. I love both Sabonis and Haliburton but these two teams trading with each other is strange.
Tbh this is how the NBA deadline usually works. Mediocre teams shuffling the deck, just to stay mediocre. I’m pretty surprised the Kings shipped out Haliburton though.
Agreed. I’d much rather have Haliburton than Fox.
Haliburton is much more efficient than Fox.
Fox is top tier expensive.
Haliburton is top tier low cost.
It is the answer to the desperate cry of “Do something!”
Yeah. This trade just proves how bad the Kings’ management is. What is Sabonis gonna do for them in the short term? Nothing! Meanwhile, the Pacers just got a ticket to their future . . . honestly, Pacers fans should be rejoicing right now.
Didn’t see this coming.
Wow! This one is a whopper.
Pacers gave him away. I love Haliburton. But Sabonis is worth much more. Pacers are dumping salary. It’s a full rebuild now. Turner is next.
Gave him away? You get a raw young talent and one of the better 3 point shooters in buddy
Tyrese is young but tbh he isn’t that raw. Overall you’re definitely right tho
Nothing going to IND in the deal is good besides Halliburton. I would think they would have wanted more volume than one player. Heild has been on the block forever but nobody was willing to give a good return for him, and Thompson is a buyout candidate worth nothing.
Lakers were definitely ready to give a big return for Buddy so your claim to the contrary is false. Also it is extremely clear that Buddy is one of the best 3pt shooters in the game today. Shooting is extremely important in NBA basketball if you didn’t know this already. So Indy obv got more than just Tyrese
Lakers were willing to move players they didnt want anyways like Harrell in basically a swap of contracts both teams thought were bad on there side. They werent getting a solid package for Heild. Proof positive of this fact is that they took back Westbrick while sending out role players and draft picks over Heild, and then what everyone saw coming with Westbrick did…
Kings would’ve received some combo of KCP, Kuzma & Harrell for Buddy. All 3 of those guys are very good basketball players. Harrell isn’t on a bad contract at all, he signed for the MLE. Your last sentence is a disaster & includes the term Westbrick. You just posted numerous Ls, please quit while you’re behind. Lakers got a guy that literally just averaged a triple double for a season for the same package they offered Sacramento for Buddy. That CLEARLY disproves your statement that nobody was willing to offer good return for him. Overall just quit being a hater & being so instinctively negative toward these guys, at least try to. Buddy doesn’t suck at basketball, neither does Russ Westbrook or Montrezl Harrell or Ben Simmons or Paul George or Antoine Walker or David Robinson or whoever everybody’s hating on these days
Right …… if Lakers had anything to give. You mean. Nobody wants Buddy. He’s been on trade block since the day they signed him. Sabonis is a future HOer.
Buddy is probably going. They already have Brogdon and Haliburton; Hield doesn’t fit on this roster. I’d honestly like if they kept Turner around. He could really help them as a stopgap center for a while. They already have lots of draft picks.
I think this is a classic pacers threading the needle move. They traded Sabonis for Haliburton and Hield instead of picks. So, unless they are hedging their ability to trade Hield for more assets in the summer, this a trade aiming for the playoffs next year.
3pt shooting wings >>>> bigs
All depends on your view of TH. It is a little surprising IND didn’t get any picks at all though, considering they took Hield’s deal, which really doesn’t make a lot of sense on a rebuilding team
Yep – Hield is making more than Sabonis these next two years. Getting out of his contract was a win in itself. Buddy can shoot, but he’s awful at everything else. Makes so many doy doy plays.
Well, it’s good for Sacto to get out of Buddy’s contract IF they can do something, and something smart, with extra money this and other salary dumping parts of this mean in the offseason.
Indy is rebuilding but not tanking. They still wanna win games, especially next season, even if they’re not title contenders. Somehow it seems that people forget the fact that Buddy is an all time great shooter & he’s currently in his prime. He’s obviously expensive but Indy just added him while also cutting salary so adding a potential 6MOY type guy who spreads the court & puts immense pressure on opposing defenses definitely helps their team. Moreso than LeVert or even TJ Warren, Buddy will make the game a lil easier for young guys like Duarte.
Stop it they just gave away Caris and Sabonis. Go monitor the Hawks.
Buddy Hield is also a suck-ass defender who isn’t a starter in part because of that.
Clear win for Pacers. Kangz being kangz
This is probably the only comment needed in this thread, well done X
Change of scenery move? Kings are closer to the play-in than the Pacers but I’d think both teams would be looking to the future, unless this is purely an economic move based on their respective cap situations.
Kings are being run poorly because the owner demanded a playoff appearance at all costs. It still may not happen this season if Zion returns to push the Pels over them. Is the play in really the playoffs anyways? But yeah totally stay stuck in mud to go for that shot by trading your best player on the best contract on the team instead of HB and other vets for pieces for next year.
Play-in is definitely not playoffs, IMO.
I do wonder if moving Halliburton will help Fox bounce back a little. Having said that, a lineup of Fox, Sabonis, and Holmes will be very light on 3p% (and probably defensively as well).
More than 3 guys on the court lol, JHoliday (not the singer), JLamb, TDavis & HBarnes are all good 3pt shooters
Good trade for both teams, although im not a huge fan of Fox-Sabonis duo bc poor 3 point shooting
Holiday & Lamb are very good 3pt shooters, as is HBarnes
For sure! But the 2 franchise guys cant shoot and that worries me
DFox isn’t a great shooter but he can def make shots & Domas is gonna make his teammates better shooters bc they’re gonna be more open bc of the attention he gets in the post. I always feel like fans focus way too much on the 1or2 best players on a team. Sac will definitely still have shooters. Tbh they just lost a great shooter but they may well be a better shooting team overall after the trade
Dude they shipped out Reese AND Hield. There is 0 chance the Kings just became a “better shooting team”. For the love of god please nobody sit here and try to make this trade okay for the Kings. McNair just won worst GM in the league and his competition was stiff. This is the worst I’ve felt as a King’s fan in a while. Losing is one thing. Hell, as a Kings fan losing is par for the course. But actively destroying Sacs future so YOU (Monte) don’t look stagnant at the TD is an outright crime
I can’t say he destroyed the Kings future bc tbh I don’t think the Kings future was gonna be that bright even with Tyrese. I see him as a good starting pg, possibly a borderline all-star in his prime something like Mike Conley. But I don’t see Haliburton as a guy that can lead a team to playoff success as their best player. Sabonis & Fox are both rn better than Tyrese will ever be to me. Sabonis is top3 post scorer in the game rn & is gonna help the Kings alot rn. He & Fox are definitely gonna be a better duo than Tyrese & Fox could be. Sac has a legit chance to make the playoffs this season & doing so would mean alot for a team that hasn’t been in the postseason in yrs
Hield’s a crappy defender; look at the other side of the ball.
Somehow manages to be terrible for both teams. Pacers could definitely get more for Sabonis and Kings are being the Kings as usual giving up on Haliburton too early, plus a Sabonis/Fox combo is iffy.
Wizards couldn’t get the deal done. Ridiculous
I think Buddy gets flipped to another team.
With his contract and his poor shooting this season, I’m not sure how much value he really has at this point.
Yeah this is Haliburton plus 2 negative value contracts for Sabonis and 2 lower tier role players. Why just why this package from both sides?
This trade shows you straight up how much value he has
There is absolutely no way
Brogdon, Tyrese, Buddy, Duarte, IJackson, Myles plus 2 1sts in the upcoming draft… Not a bad starting point for Indy’s reboot. If they can get a top5 pick & keep Jaden “young DWade” Ivey home in Indiana their future will be looking real bright. Not sure how Rick Carlisle feels about helming a rebuild but I’m sure he loves his new backcourt.. as far as Sacramento, they just got a lot better by adding Domas to their frontcourt. Bagley’s future is very clearly gonna be elsewhere & they should trade him before the deadline. Fox & Domas are a potent 1/2 sorta similar to Lavine/Vucevic at the end of last season in Chicago. The key will be if they can add a DeRozan type next off-season the way the Bulls did last off-season
there’s no comparison between fox and lavine though
lavine is an allstar and fox is fox. they should have traded fox isntead of haliburton
Haliburton, Barnes and Sabonis as a starting point is so much nicer. I get adding Sabonis, the how is bizarre though.
Hard to tell who wins in this trade but I can see the pacers a winner till we see what the kings do with this trade
Kings are stupid. They gave a rookie max to a PG who can’t shoot and traded away a potential star for a big who can’t stay healthy.
Its not Portland, but Sacramento is close to home for Sabonis. Only like an 8 Hour drive?
Think he was born in Portland and his Pops still lives there.
In that sense, he’ll be playing closer to home.
I’m pretty certain that Arvydas Sabonis lives in Lithuania
Yeah and he identifies as Lithuanian not Portlandian lols…
Yes, Arvydas is Lithuanian, but lives in Portland. Or at least, still has a house in Portland.
He has like 3 sons that are still in the Oregon area. Domantas is just the best hooper of the 3.
I’m pretty certain that even if Arvydas lives in Portland, that Domantas will never be making that drive. It’s a 45 minute flight on a private jet though.
Sabonis, who lives in Kaunas, Lithuania, runs a youth basketball clinic in his hometown and is part owner of Zalgiris, one of the oldest teams in the Euroleague. He is a hero in Lithuania, a small country of about 3 million people, and was the first Lithuanian to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.Sep 27, 2011
His son was born in Portland
I believe Domantas was born during the playoffs. Could have been his brother, but I think it was him. I was more focused on Mom. Let’s say he comes from good stock.
Kings fan still trying to process… wow, not sure how to feel. Love Reese.
Get some Big Men that play Defense. That would be a good start. Bagley and Jones don’t play defense.
Give Neemias Queta a look see.
Wow. Sacramento traded the wrong guard. And Sabonis is now in nba hell. I hate this trade
The Pacers just ruined Sabonis career. I forget who it was but one player blamed his old team so much for trading him to SAC.
Chris Webber was extremely upset about being traded to Sacramento & it ended being the best thing that happened to his career
He wasnt the one but I think its Ras from the ringer thats always referencing it from someone he talked to.
Spud Webb ?
Mitch Richmond ?
Mitch Richmond was for real that dude could score as well as anyone.
Wasnt much of a fan of some of Indiana’s lineups this season, although I did pick them 13th in the east. I just felt like they could have done different things with some of their roster
Here I feel like you can theoretically see what they’re doing, but I’ll be curious to see what lineups they might go to, and if TJ Warren can come back and give them much needed help at the 4 behind Brissett and Craig in smaller lineups
Sacramento theoretically got better here, but I feel like they lost a lot of shooting at the guard spot, even though they got back Lamb and Holiday. They had a lot of guards already, which helps them move Haliburton a little easier. Davis’ defense matters more now. I feel like Sabonis is a really good fit around what they currently have, and could theoretically put up really, really big numbers, which might be fun to watch. Would be nice to see them pick up another shooter to see what that might look like
You got real theoretical with this comment lol
Who knows with some of these coaches in the league and their rotation decisions
I’m referring to the fact that you used the word “theoretically” multiple times in your comment
I know. I’m saying its b/c its theoretical until you see how these teams actually end up playing
Kings kept saying they didn’t want to move Fox or Haliburton and I was really hoping they were wrong since it made no sense to have these two in the back court. I’m not sure this was the best trade, but both of these teams have multiple roster issues. I like Sabonis to Sac. Kings have needed a good pick n roll big for years. This move balances their offence. Haliburton will be a great PG and is a great piece for pacers to build with.
I don’t necessarily like this deal from either end, but, by all accounts, this looks mostly like an arms length basketball trade! Not a pure salary dump for expiring deals and picks, not otherwise motivated principally by cap/tax issues and not initiated via a trade demand. Good to see it’s still possible.
SAC FO, deal averse until now, actually tries to sell high on RSC guy. Whether it works out or not, it takes some courage with the 2k-ish mindset that currently engulfs fans and media.
Love the challenge trades as well.
Have all but disappeared in baseball which is a shame
If Sabonis is on the roster via ext 2024/25 I can sign off on this today in theory but if he’s not this is another L for Sac in a long line of them this century
Agreed. There’s no cap space transfer, or real draft picks, involved in this deal. The only future asset is TH’s RFA status after 2023/24. If, in fact, Sabonis is extended past 2023/24, then it’s just about the players. There would need to be a sea change in performance for this to be called bad deal for SAC.
Hefty price for Sabonis.
Well Possible New Starting Lineup :
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6-11 PF Sabonis 19pts / 12rbd / 1blk / 5ast
6-8 SF Barnes 16pts / 6rbd /3ast / 1blk
6-10 C Holmes 13pts / 8rbd / 1blk / 1ast
6-6 SG Holiday 11pts / 3rbd / 3ast / 1stl
6-3 PG Fox 21pts / 3rbd / 7ast / 1stl (Fox rotates back into the PG Position full time)
Or
Fox, Lamb, Barnes, Metu, Sabonis
Davis, Holiday, Holmes, Woodard/Bagley
Y’all are somehow forgetting about Davion Mitchell
In certain matchups, and I’m a big fan of his defense, but he hasnt been great this year yet, and Davis is more useful right now
Mitchell hasn’t been great this year? He’s a rookie and is shutting down top players when he gets to start. The Kings should have traded Fox and built around Hali and Davion.
Getting Sabonis and away from Hield contract
Wow, mistake on the Kings part. Traded the wrong PG. Haliburton is a STUD. Kings really going for that 10th seed it seems LOL
You don’t get Sabonis and out from Hield’s contracat with Fox. You gotta trade value to get value.
This is despicable.
WTF. Why did the Knicks not have an interest in a player they should of drafted. Indiana very dangerous in the future with Halliburton and Duarte in the backcourt.
B*tthole Trade Grades, SAC/IND
IND
Grade: C
Summary: I like Tyrese Halliburton. He could be a very good NBA player. Perhaps even an All Star. However, Sabonis already is an All Star, even if he’s a “low level” All Star, and getting a prospect whose ceiling seems to also be “low level All Star” in return for him seems like it might be a treadmill move.
But maybe you think Halliburton is way more than that. Maybe you think he’s the next great PG. I’m skeptical. In addition, IND is getting no picks in this deal. In addition, Halliburton is actually pretty good *right now*, which means Indiana actually still might be pretty good this year, making their pick this summer lower than it would have otherwise been.
SAC
Grade: F
Summary: No thank you. Halliburton was the best prospect on this roster. By far. Fox is not only having a down year but also seems like a poor fit with Sabonis. How many NBA teams are good when their two best players shoot under 30% from 3 and play mediocre to horrendous defense? Why would you trade Halliburton for this?
It’s possible giving Fox free reign at PG improves his play. Even then, a team built around Fox-Sabonis (which is what this is) has a ceiling of “upper play-in”, even in a weaker than normal West.
Spot-on analysis. Sums up how I feel as well. Weird deal for both teams.
So Haliburton was not untouchable
I think this trades a wash. Diversifies talent on both teams. The Pacers can use a talented young playmaker on a cheap contract and needed to breakup Turner and Sabonis. The King’s needed a talented big and needed to free up the backcourt for Fox and Mitchell
But where it the shooting? The Kings are going to be desperate for some right now.
Unless the Kings have more moves planned, I don’t like the fit here on top of losing the best player in the deal value wise.
Sabonis, you get 19+ pts a game, Holiday 11+ pts a game, where as Hield, depends on which one shows up for which night, All Star Hield or Chump Hield (last 10 games Hield made double digits 4 times and 6 times he didn’t, His stats are down across the board); Thompson was doing nothing but taking up bench space @ $9m; Haliburton was giving you 14 pts a game on avg. So pts wise the deal breaks pretty close to even. Sabonis will also give you 12 boards or more a night and 5 asst on top of it. Give them a Chance !! Though I admit Hali will be missed, big time !! I personaly believe Hali was the better PG of the 2 and the Future PG of the Kings !!
The King are NOT done trading!! They have too many Centers and Bagley is still on the Team !!
Let’s not forget we have Davion… who’s been playing great since getting the starting nod. Averaging 18 or so his past 6 games and a bull on D. I think we’ll be just fine at PG.
Yep. That’s enough for me today. See you guys in a couple weeks
Kings doing Kings crap. Should have kept Haliburton over Fox. Terrible decision. Terrible.
If they realistically traded Fox, Thompson and Hield for Sabonis, Lamb and Holiday….you’d throw a fit there too. Let’s not be absolutely stupid when we make comments, okay?
Most Kings fans would be absolutely okay /preferred this trade
I like this trade honestly. Kings get rid of Hields salary which they desperately wanted. Lamb and Thompson kind of cancel each other out with expiring deals. They get an affordable bench player in holiday for next year. Halliburton while young and good was and will not be a “star” imo. Sabonis is a star that pairs well with Fox. Meanwhile pacers who needed to get rid of either sabonis or Turner get a young player in Halliburton with a lot of upside. Both sides get closer to their goals. Curious to see if the kings can trade Bagley for anything of value and if the pacers hang onto Turner or deal him to and just start fresh around Halliburton.
I wouldn’t say that about Haliburton so quickly. He seems like the perfect type of player for the Pacers to build around.
Hield has regressed into a league average shooter who is in all other respects a poor performer. Sabonis is an above average player who is a known commodity. I’d agree that Haliburton is the best asset traded, but this feels like a like the Kings traded a -1 and a +3 for a +2. You rarely want to give up the best player in a deal, but given their glut at guard, this deal is defensible.
But also, Pacers won this deal.
Pacers could getting a Simmons offer together Haliburton, Hield, maybe they acquire another piece.
Trading Haliburton? Really Sacramento? I’m so mad at these idiots. He’s the only guy I would’ve kept. Solid player, salary, and attitude. I’ve been a Kings fan since Mitch got there, but I dunno anymore. Passing up on Luka and Haliburton for this? I’m done.
To everyone who thinks Buddy is an asset… I have an ocean front house in Sacramento if you’re interested!
Exactly – anybody who watches Buddy play each night knows he’s trash. He gets hot, but has so many 3-14 games (3-11 3pt) type games, chucks up bad shots, and plays awful defense. Not to mention he’s getting paid more than Sabonis the next two years.
Not saying he can’t be a great player in the right type of situation, but he tries to do way too much.
He’s been the hardest part of watching Kings games all year… and that makes him a top “hardest to watch in the NBA” candidate by default.
Poor Kings fans. Even when they rarely get something nice, the front office finds a way to screw it all up in short order. Can’t imagine most are happy with this trade.
And we know where it all stems from: ownership. Until Vivek goes, nothing will change.
Top 55 protected? Lmao
New starting lineups:
Pacers:
Haliburton/Sykes
Duarte/Hield(if he plays)
Craig/Stephenson
Jackson/Brissett/Bitadze
Turner/Thompson
Kings:
Fox/Jahmi’us Ramsey
Lamb/Mitchell
Barnes/Holiday
Holmes/Bagley III/Harkless
Sabonis/Len/Metu
Injuries:
Kings: Terrence Davis
Pacers: McConnel, Brogdon, Warren, Turner
Taylor get more play? With the Pacers?
I meant Taylor at center, not Turner since Turner is hurt
Ha no way Lamb starts over Mitchell. Mitchell will need the experience. Lamb is washed up.
Well now it looks like:
Fox/Mitchell
DiVinvenzo/Lamb
Barnes/Holiday/Jackson
Sabonis/Lyles/Harkless
Holmes/Len/Jones/Quetta
The Kings haven’t made playoffs since 2006. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Maybe they’ll make the playoffs with this lineup.
This is a good look at trade. Makes a lot of sense. It is a good young core. Didn’t really think of it that way. Haliburton is going to be an all star.
2nd Trade Possibliity :
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Kings Trade :
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6-11 PF Bagley
6-7 SF Harkless
6-11 C Len
2023 1st Round Draft Pick
Detroit Trade :
6-8 SF Grant
6-9 PF Lyles
2022 2nd Round Draft Pick
I give a F to both teams
Well I guess this means Randle for Fox is over. New rumor is Knicks are looking at Barnes. Don’t really get this. Unless it’s to dump Randle.
link to nypost.com
Dinwiddie just got a lot more possible with Beal going out for the year
The second round pick to Sacramento is top 55 protected so will convey to the Kings if its 56-60 (not 31-55)
That was what Amick initially reported, but he later corrected it (the initial Twitter link and his correction are both included in the post).
No. They previously traded the same pick top 55 protected (to SA), and now are trading 31-55 to SAC.
The kings traded the wrong guard and the pacers traded the wrong big guy.
What Why???? trade Tyrese Sacramento is so desperate to trying and make the playoffs they got worse Halliburton is an future all star I would have tried to trade Mitchell or Bagley Halliburton was off limits IMO pacers got a good one in Hali.
Not a kings fan..but while totally different players this reminds me of when the warriors traded monte Ellis for bogut. Lots of hate and disbelief. But if the kings can get there roster right (way to many bigs). Could be a great trade
The Kings didn’t trade Ellis in this situation; they traded Curry
That’s a bold statement. We will see
Not saying Tyrese is Steph, but I’m saying they traded the younger upcoming star.
I can see the Pacers moving Buddy, Rubio, and Warren still.
Next year’s starters right now would be: Turner, Brogdon, and Haliburton.
They’d need to fill PF and SF. They can fill one of those holes in the draft. The best PFs won’t be there when they select unless Banchero falls…. so probably AJ Griffin.
Plenty of PFs available right now via draft – Grant, Wood, Collins…
I agree, the Kings pulled another Kangz in trading Halliburton, but what some people are saying that they could have gotten more for Hield, I don’t understand. Buddy has been awful, his contract almost made it impossible to get anything back, and he plays zero defense. This is addition by subtraction.
Love this trade for Indy.
For one, I loved Sabonis and wish him well in Sac. I think he and Fox can be a great pick and roll/ pick and pop duo.
Myles Turner will now get the chance to flourish. He has all the talent in the world to do so. He and Sabonis could not coexist in the same lineup. Sabonis can’t defend the perimeter and Turner is an elite shot blocker.
Indiana gets a very good ball handler to pair with Brogdon, Brogdon should get back to that 40% 3pt clip since he won’t have sole ball handling and playmaking responsibility. I am also very excited for where this leaves Isiah Jackson. I saw Halliburton and Rashaun Holmes decimate teams in P and R lobs this year and Isiah would look great in that role.
That also leaves our pick. It gives us a ton of versatility. If we land top 3, not to say we wouldn’t have anyway, but we can comfortably select Smith, Holmgren or Banchero without worrying about fit. However, if we end up with Ivey or Sharpe they can also fit in this lineup.
Even without the pick next years lineup would be:
Turner
Warren (?) or Jackson
Duarte
Brogdon
Halliburton
That looks a bit more like the type of versatile, fast, switch capable lineups that succeed in todays game.
Pacers won this, no question. They now have a backcourt of Haliburton and Brogdon that is strong on both offense and defense. They’ll probably trade Hield this offseason. Sabonis is not a good defender and doesn’t really shoot 3s. Kings now have a lineup the can’t shoot 3s and two post-oriented frontcourt players who will clog the lane.
And they had a lineup that shot 3s well before the trade? They’re bottom third of the league. You know what they lacked? An actual big man. Richaun Holmes essentially is a dunker…and nothing else. They need a guy who can get buckets and help others do that from the inside and now they do. 18/12/5….says the dude can play ball.
If you’re not a Kings fan, shove it. You don’t know what the team needs. You don’t understand the problems they’ve had other than the fact that they’ve been disfunctional. But they had 3 well performing point guards. I don’t know if you know this but playing 3 PGs big minutes with a small size is not going to work. Haliburton gets his own team; Sac gets a developed, young player in his twenties and get rid of Buddy who has declined for a couple years.
Agreed – three good point guards and couldn’t put them on the court at the same time… and buddy is just awful. Getting rid of him is a win in itself.
Excited to see what Sabonis brings and how we shape the roster around him. Trying to be optimistic… we shall see…