Monday’s report stating that Kyrie Irving is at an impasse in contract discussions with the Nets and could consider other destinations is widely viewed as an attempt by Irving’s camp to create leverage in those negotiations, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst stated during an appearance on Get Up on Tuesday (video link).
Still, even if that’s the case, the Nets and Irving have some work to do to bridge the gap in their contract talks, according to Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report, who says the team prefers a shorter-term deal that includes incentives, while Irving naturally wants a longer-term commitment.
Despite the report of an “impasse,” talks between Irving and the Nets are expected to remain fluid as his option decision deadline and the start of free agency near, says Fischer. There still appears to be mutual interest in figuring something out, and Brooklyn team officials have been operating as if Irving, Kevin Durant, and Ben Simmons will all be back in 2022/23, Fischer adds.
According to Fischer, word has circulated among league personnel since May’s draft combine that Irving has interest in the Lakers and Knicks, but most team executives haven’t given much credence to that chatter, given how challenging it would be for either team to acquire him.
Here’s more from Fischer’s newest round-up of NBA rumors:
- Fischer is the latest reporter to reiterate that John Collins is viewed as one of the NBA’s most likely offseason trade candidates, writing that Collins and the Hawks seem to have mutual interest in finding him a new home. Fischer also confirms a previous report which stated that the Collins talks between the Hawks and Kings haven’t included the No. 4 overall pick, though he notes that Sacramento forward Harrison Barnes is believed to be available.
- The Knicks are considered likely to trade Alec Burks and Nerlens Noel, according to Fischer, who says the team is exploring ways to create $25MM in cap room, possibly to pursue free agent point guard Jalen Brunson. However, Fischer cautions that league personnel still widely expect Brunson to re-sign with the Mavericks.
- Teams looking to shed a contract or two will likely be in touch with the Magic. Fischer hears from sources that Orlando – one of the only teams projected to have cap room – has emerged as a possible landing spot for unwanted salary. Any team looking to dump a contract on the Magic would have to be willing to give up an asset or two to make it happen.
This should get real silly…real quick..
In order to acquire Irving, Lakers and Knicks will have to find a way to upgrade the roster for Nets.
4 teams deal
3rd and 4th teams offer the assets to Nets.
Lakers and Knicks have no direct commensurate value to Nets.
Highly unlikely to happen, but possible.
You went from they don’t, to unlikely, to possible.
I still think Sillivan is a bot
Imo there is a lot of smoke between Knicks and Brunson. Knicks know he is gonna resign with Dallas. I see FO going after our next PG by draft night, with Ivey or Daniels (both in trade up scenarios). Or even maybe a longshot vet like Brogdon. But no, Brunson isn’t coming to NY, and Knicks know that
I have to think selling #4 and Mitchell gets you at least very close to prying away Spida from Utah. If you’re the Kangz do you pull the trigger?
Are the Knicks somehow keeping the 11th in the trade with the Kings? Any package would have to start with #4, #11, Davion and a couple more future 1sts. Next you have to convince Spida that he, Barrett and Randle have a better chance for success than the Jazz do. Then you have to convince the Jazz to trade their star guard that’s just entering his prime and is under contract for three more seasons to basically start over.
I think the Knicks would be better off just drafting Ivey if they get the 4th or Washington at 11 without a trade.
What trade with the kings? Your comment is a reply to a proposed kings/jazz trade, you shorhorned the knicks in there and it doesn’t even make sense.
Ok I assumed that Donovan Mitchell would be going to the Knicks and that the #4 and Davion would be going to the Jazz otherwise that would mean the original post doesn’t make sense. I highly doubt Spida would force his way to the Kings and #4 and Davion Mitchell isn’t anywhere near enough to get Utah’s attention.
Just a trade idea for Hawks
Send a player to a cap room team to create the TPE, and then send a future First and TPE to Warriors for Gary Payton (SNT).
Improve defense.
This method can also apply to Cavs and Hornets if they want Looney or Payton.
Warriors need tax savings
Warriors are on rebuild mode, need to capitalize future Firsts from other teams and then trade all future Firsts for a young star in 2026.
Why would Golden State trade Payton if they’re trying to repeat? Lol
Because rumors are Payton wants 15-20 million. I know Lacoub said he’s willing to spend but with Poole’s new contract and an extension for Wiggins I’d assume even he’d have limits. Especially if the Warriors think Moody’s ready to be the 4th guard.
Cle could facilitate a trade of Irving to LA & Russ to bkn, but Russ to bkn makes no sense when u already got Ben Simmons. I seen ciphers saying AD for Kyrie which made 0 sense at all.
It has to be KY for Russ but Nets don’t want Russ & his 47mil when u got BS. That’s Ben Simmons.
To make deal work you need a team w Assets that can help win a chip now that will eat Russ 1 yr 47mil deal for fut assets.
Here’s the deal w Cavs…
LA get:
Kyrie Irving
Nets get:
Caris Levert
Kevin Love
Cedi Osman
Cavs Get:
Russell Westbrook
Cam Thomas
Talen Horton Tucker
2026 LA 1st unprotected
2028 LA 1st unprotected
2023 Mavs 1st lotto protected (from Nets)
This trade actually makes sense for All teams. Cle resigns Sexton, has Okoro, plus takes a SG/SF at 14 in draft.
Love replacement is Markenan.
Cedi Osman is great role player on good $$ deal.
Nets would be a better team w Levert Love & Osman..
Love is exactly what Nets need to space floor & let Ben Simmons have open lanes to drive. KD can play small ball 5 & levert could provide bench need w 2nd pnr.. Osman also a nice piece..
KD wins a Chip with BS & Love & a solid Team w depth around him, it will solidify him as an all time great. Kyrie plays no Defense & yea he gets buckets but the ball stops moving. It’s alot of iso ball. 1 on 1…
LA & LeBron give up picks bc LA figures there just Reload w FA once LeBron retires or leaves.
LAL have limited window. Getting Kyrie LeBron & AD as your core 3 if they stay Healthy & commit to Defense, then LAL will have a shot. It’s now or never for LA. They can’t keep Russ 1 more year & say we will be patient. Us LeBron deal IA expiring so he has leverage now.
As for Cle this trade is a step back at 1st.
Russ will be a backup, maybe play some 2.
But he’s on expiring Deal & will need to buy into new role. Cle needs a backup pg. If Russ shines maybe cle keeps him at MLE next yr. Who knows.
Getting those 3x extra picks & 2x prospects in THT & Cam Thomas who can be moved for more assets.
Cle aren’t ready to compete for title this yr. Love walks for nada yrs end. Now is time to move him. Levert is not ideal for cle system w bad 3 pt shooter & Sexton back to run 2nd unit. Plus pick 14 Branham or Agbaji…
Though as a cavs fan I think Dalen Twrry could be puck at 14 & I’m high on him. It’s a reach but he’s a sleeper for Def & passing. Terry is what Cle needs true Wing Def w passing. Jaylen Williams also interesting. Trading back a bit makes sense.
I like cavs acquiring assets and eating Russ $ for 1 yr 47mil. Next yr 47mil off books.
Other team that could do what cavs do.
Is Cha..
A combo of Rozier & Hayward could facilitate a Russ deal, though I like Levert Love Isman deal better as a return.
Also Hayward is 2 yrs 40mil & rozier 4yr 20mil+ per..
Where cle deals are expiring.. that’s a big big deal…
Cle should take on Russ $ if it costs Love & filler if they get 2x fut unprotected Picks from LA..
Then watch LeBron join Cavs as a 45 yr old playing 2026 – 2030. LOL.
Tom Brady of the NBA.. jk ofc.. but ya never know…
LA if they trade 26 & 28 pucks they assume there Reload w big FA after James leaves. It’s LA after all.
Thoughts on Blockbuster deal?
I like the Cavs getting some draft equity for taking Westbrook for a year instead of a pointless goodbye tour for Love. He has
wanted out.
I would be willing to forgo the Mavs’ pick to get Marks moving on it.
Marks is motivated enough, based on the “impasse”; Pelinka is since Lakers can rely on FAs; but Altman is not bold enough.
Knicks should offer Dallas whatever combination of contracts for Brunson with the 11th pick and the better of Dallas pick next year or their own.
In Portland news.
Portland should offer Atlanta 7th pick plus 2025 Milwaukee pick for John Collins and the 16th pick.
No Kyrie ……..
No Brunson. ……..
No no no NoNonono No No no no no-no
Rather have TyTy than any of those two. McBride is already better than Brunson. Thibs just won’t play him.
Trade :
———-
Kings Trade the #4 Pick, Barnes & Harkless
to
Atlanta, for J. Collins, K. Huerter and their #16 Pick
Possible, since Huerter is probably a negative. I would like to see him on a non-Trae team.