With no indication that the Nets have made any recent progress on a trade involving Kevin Durant, Ian Begley of SNY.tv says multiple people familiar with those discussions were pessimistic late last month about the odds of a deal getting done anytime soon.
As Begley explains, those sources suggested that teams around the NBA aren’t eager to be the third or fourth team in a trade that sends Durant to another club.
“No one wants to help (Brooklyn get a deal done),” one team told Begley.
While some of Durant’s potential suitors – including the Celtics and Raptors – have the pieces necessary to get a deal done without bringing in a third team, others would be hard-pressed to do so.
The designated rookie extension rule that prevents the Nets from acquiring certain players while Ben Simmons is on their roster further complicate certain straight-up trade scenarios — for instance, even if the Heat are willing to send Bam Adebayo to Brooklyn in a package for Durant, the two teams would likely need to bring in another team to take Simmons.
According to Begley, one source he spoke to near the end of July described the Durant talks as being in a “holding pattern.” It’s unclear if the meeting reported to be taking place between Durant and Nets owner Joe Tsai has occurred yet or if it will help the situation move forward at all.
Meanwhile, there have been no reports as of late indicating that the Nets have been actively pursuing a trade involving Kyrie Irving. According to Begley, a source close to the star point guard said this week that Irving is in a good place with the team and is comfortable remaining in Brooklyn to begin the 2022/23 season.
What is Ben Simmons trade value today? What package would you give up for him that the Nets would actually accept?
Dejounte Murray package
John Collins & Bogdan Bogdanovic to Brooklyn
Ben Simmons & Royce O’Neale to Atl.. makes us a MUCH better defensive team. Digs into our shooting a bit more (losing Gallo, Kev, John & Bogdan in 1 off-season would be losing A LOT of 3pt shooting). But we still got shooters & Royce is a deadly corner trey marksman himself… Nets would be able to trade for Bam or someone like him (I’d try to pry BI, Jaxson & Jose from NO). Plus they’d get a young, versatile pure scorer in John that’s much cheaper than Ben & has shown a willingness to go above & beyond for the team unlike Ben. Bogdan gives u a ballhandler, shooter with size that you can lean on in the clutch. If Brooklyn wants to keep Royce I’d def take a package of Ben, TJ Warren & Cam Thomas instead but they probably can’t trade Warren til around xmas
Lol yall couldn’t find anything to hate on with this 1?
@Sankara … Brooklyn is NOT interested in trading Ben Simmons at this time.
If they were …. Why the hell would they be interested in Bogdanovic???? They have Joe Harris and Seth Curry?????
Why would they want John Collins???? To Score??? That is what KD and Kyrie are here for.
Silly trade for Brooklyn. Not Interested!!
Lol
But Kyrie most def will b gone after this season, what then
This actually is something I agree with.
Simmons and Murray are a little duplicative but going all in on playmaking with Trae makes some sense
For Brooklyn it opens up a whole new world of potential KD trades
Agreed, maybe even more protection on the picks, but Simmons is unlikely to return a better player than someone at Murray’s level.
I’m pretty sure Ben Simmons would get more than 2 1sts & 2 2nds in a trade lol. Didn’t Brooklyn just trade 1 of the best players in the league for him a couple months ago while Murray was traded for a guy that was immediately waived?
Ben was traded under the assumption he’d play even one game last season. Given his history of playing on his terms I doubt he’s held his value. On top of that most teams want/need shooting especially at the 1 and if a team is gonna spend multiple 1sts for a guy he will know how to shoot the ball. Simmons value in my opinion is even less than Murrays. Spurs made a bad deal
Agree, except for the last statement. That is how low Ben’s value is to me.
Lol I guess you forgot but Ben was already sitting out when he was traded. There was never a certainty that he was gonna play anytime soon after he was traded. Tbh there’s far more certainty that he’ll play next season than there was that he’d play his 1st games for Brooklyn down the stretch of last season. I can tell you obv hope he hasn’t held his value lol but your opinion only matters to you lol. For basketball people that are able to analyze these guys without hate blinding them it’s pretty obv that every team in the league would want a guy like Ben on their team. He’s not a shooter. This is something we’ve known since he was in hs. People who know basketball could tell back then that this guy is never gonna be a consistent shooter. He still went #1 & still managed to exceed expectations (until his coach threw him under the bus causing him to demand a trade out of town). When you understand how Ben managed to be successful without having a jumpshot you will have graduated into a dif level of understanding the game & tbh watching basketball will prob become more enjoyable for u & u won’t feel so much negativity towards so many of the games best players… but yea Spurs made a bad deal no doubt & Simmons would get a better return as we literally just saw a few months ago
You think James Harden is still one of the best players in the league?
Nets’ hand was forced by Harden, they didn’t have much choice.
Dejounte Murray has never done anything in the NBA other than get stats on a bad team. Not convinced that Murray is capable of producing any type of playoff buckets. Not convinced that Atlanta has enough shooting or defense to be anything more than a Play-In team.
He’s a good 2 way player, top 25-30. It’s hard to get a ton of playoff buckets at age 20 and 21 vs GSW playing 20 minutes and then after you rehab your ACL and become a starter, playing on teams that don’t make the playoffs.
I would probably trade Westbrook and a draft pick for him. Not sure he actually fits the lakers roster though (not that Westbrook does either)
Simmons market value is
Westbrook and 2 Firsts
@phillyballers:
His trade value is essentially nothing, considering he’s getting $35.5 mil and hasn’t played in over a year.
No team is going to trade for him until they see him play.
Lakers fans believe that Irving will sign with Lakers as a free agent next summer
but Lakers have only $20 million cap space
Irving wants championships but not money.
Like Westbrook, Irving wants sacrifice
Let’s be honest, the latest news is nothing. Until a trade actually occurs, there’s nothing more to report here other than two players who want to move on because one is entitled and the other is in the process of spinning off the planet – well, the flat one at least.
They got to just trade these clowns to the worst possible situation. KD back to OKC and Kyrie to Detroit or Houston.
Is KD even good enough to make OKC’s roster? He’d clearly be behind Poku in the rotation right
A lineup of Giddey, Shai, Dort, Durant and Holmgren does sound intriguing.
So you’re assuming the Nets would give him away?
Bam is gonna go to a third team, and Nets are gonna keep simmons. What if they traded for Lillard?
He literally re-upped.
The stated need for a third team is a rouse, as it usually is. If BKN and the “second” team agree on the appropriate compensation for KD, the two teams will be able to find a third (and even fourth) team to facilitate any needed reshuffling of assets (whether due to the designated rookie extension rule or otherwise). Problem here is there is no such agreement. Not that other teams don’t want to help BKN. Of course they don’t, no team wants to help any other team; and of course a team will join the deal if it’s to their benefit.
“ruse”
they’re both gonna be on brooklyn to start the season. i can’t speak on the rest of the year but i don’t think either of them played their last game on the nets just yet
I agree. Kyrie’s already come to terms with it and I think KD will realize that his best chance to play for a strong contender may be to stay where he is. Especially if it’s a one-on-one trade, the team where Durant lands could be decimated. I believe that was story with Kobe
I still don’t think they’re contenders because of all the uncertainty with the team regardless of them staying or not, but it seems like the nets are only gonna accept an offer for KD if it’s something like ja morant which absolutely isn’t going to happen so i think where KD likes it or not he’s gonna be in a nets jersey at least until the deadline
Vegas
Lakers are 6th at title odds
Me
Nets are far better than Lakers
“No one wants to help (Brooklyn get a deal done),” one team told Begley.
What does this even mean? I guess everything new has already been said so we are just filling pages now
Lakers/Utah don’t need Knicks but it be nice to see DM leave first taking away some leverage from Danny
Yup this is such an August story I’m actually going to keep my comment to “this is such an August story”.
Why would you want KD now. He’s not playing in Bklyn. NY ain’t putting up with him now. Nets were fools not to jump on Ayton.
Ayton, Bridges, Ben is a great foundation for now and the future. Plus picks they got and what they get for Kyrie. Fools
Like I said from the beginning…why would someone facilitate a trade of Kevin Durant, in which they arent getting Kevin Durant? The only way is if they’re getting something of significance that they need
And also, Bam isnt going anywhere. Scottie Barnes isnt going anywhere