9:10pm: The meeting between Silver and Irving will take place on Tuesday morning in New York, Stein tweets.
4:01pm: According to Marc Stein at Substack, “there is growing pessimism in various corners of the league that Kyrie Irving will ever play for the Nets again.” Irving is currently suspended without pay by Brooklyn and must meet six requirements before returning to the court after promoting an antisemitic film on social media.
As Stein writes, some close to the process feel that the list of conditions “was crafted with the knowledge that Irving would be unlikely to complete all six and thus could conceivably subject himself to potential outright release.” General manager Sean Marks stated on Friday that the Nets have not considered waiving Irving, but perhaps that could change if he doesn’t fulfill the team’s requirements.
Sources tell Stein that Irving is expected to meet with Adam Silver, the NBA’s commisioner, as early as Tuesday. Silver issued a statement last week about Irving’s “reckless decision” and failure to offer an “unqualified apology” denouncing the “vile and harmful content contained in the film he chose to publicize.” Irving eventually apologized after being suspended, but had chosen not to do so in a couple of combative media sessions with reporters leading up to it.
While the events leading to his suspension have been by far the most damaging of Irving’s career (and most hurtful to others), he’s missed more games (129) than he has played (111) for the Nets during his four years in Brooklyn. He was injured in year one, during the 2020/21 season he was away from the team for a few weeks due to personal reasons, and then last season he was limited to 29 games after refusing to get vaccinated against COVID-19, which played a significant factor in James Harden requesting a trade — and being dealt — to the Sixers in February.
During the offseason, Irving attempted to find a trade with the Nets’ permission, but couldn’t find any takers, so he eventually picked up his $36.9MM player option for ’22/23. All of which led to internal strife with the organization, culminating in his recent suspension.
Stein previously reported that “strong voices” were telling owner Joe Tsai to reconsider hiring Ime Udoka to replace Steve Nash as head coach. That has not occurred as of yet, but Stein says that Udoka is “believed to be the preferred choice” of Marks and star forward Kevin Durant.
In other Udoka-related news, sources tell Stein that Udoka, who was suspended for the season by the Celtics following an investigation into his improper workplace relationship, had to forfeit half of his roughly $4MM salary as part of the suspension. The Celtics declined to comment on the financial specifics of the suspension.
He’s gotta decide if he wants to play and be a professional or be as he calls himself a truth seeker.
Best Case Scenario: he goes to seek the truth somewhere far away from here and is never heard from again.
He will play in two weeks
Al has spoken.
all hail the great, al
Not that this was what the Nets wanted, but now they don’t have to worry about his pay for the rest of the year (while still accounting for the team’s player budget). Not a Nets fan, but glad management didn’t budge to him wanting a contract extension last season/off-season.
win win situation for Nets and Lakers
Lakers get Irving and Seth Curry
Nets get 2 Lakers picks and good players from third team
Third team gets Westbrook
Will never happen
Sillivan, did you not hear LeBron’s recent comments about this situation? He wants nothing to do with Kyrie at this point, and really, I would be surprised if any team is going to want Irving.
wait so why does the 3rd team give up good players for Westbrook?
Because every team is supposed to bow down to LA.
Probably exactly what Kyrie wanted anyway. If he’s proven anything over the last few years it’s that he does not like actually PLAYING basketball games on a consistent basis. What a clown. I guess he’ll have more time for his studies at YouTube University.
Kyrie’s a clown that’s what we all know, but no-one is asking why the “social media” site is still hosting the video in question? Kyrie has been dealt with, but the hate remains out there…
Social media and hateful material have been around for a decade but an NBA player with a huge platform hasn’t been promoting it to his mass following.
@ Le4fBasket
Amazon isn’t a social media site. Both the Nets and the ADL have asked Amazon to either remove it, or at the very least add the context about the false content and antisemitism.
Forget “for the Nets”…Kyrie shouldn’t be in the NBA. He’s in a position where he has power and social standing, and he continues to pump misinformation and hatred. The NBA is supposed to be a diverse and inclusive league, and yet people like Kyrie are still in it parroting their opinions. Kyrie can say whatever he wants, but actions have consequences and he needs to grow up and accept that.
Why wouldn’t he?
It’s not the watching of the documentary that offends people; its the sharing of it. You can do anything you want (if its legal) in private but when you share something publicly you have to abide by a) common decency and b) social etiquette. Kyrie hasn’t shown himself to be good at abiding by either of those things, and in this case it’s coming back to bite him hard in the butt. Oh, and those anti-Semitic women in Congress? They’re no better than Kyrie and people shouldn’t be supporting them either.
I’m sorry but the Kyrie defenders who have the lazy take of “ he didn’t make the movie, leave him be” are uneducated at best on this. Just because 1 thing happens somewhere does not mean something else is ok! I could literally come back with well Miles Leonard made a huge mistake, said sorry, and still got bounced from the league. Sure he wasn’t a star let alone superstar but he is not playing in this league ever again. Will you defend him? Nope! Kyrie literally had to just say hey guys I hadn’t watched it yet and I didn’t know this or that and I am so sorry for this. It would have blown over. I think he cares about people unlike Ye or AB, but he is always causing issues. If I were the nets I would at this point say hey man that’s a wrap. I hope he learns from this i Really do but enough is enough. It’s 2022 and every day we are hearing about this nonsense from somewhere. WTF is going on? Actions have consequences
You do bring up a very good point. Meyers Leonard made a mistake calling someone an anti-Semitic slur, but then he immediately apologized and was taking steps to correct his behavior. So far, all we’ve seen from Kyrie are a few chaotic press conferences, the NBA and Nets management having to get involved, and Kyrie sending an apology that he probably wrote approximately two sentences of. He’s a PR disaster and just a generally ignorant and uninformed human being. I wish nothing but the best for him, as long as his best isn’t in the NBA.
Kyrie has decided all conspiracy theories are now facts, when almost none of the popular theories are.
I cannot advise this site any harder than I can on here: conspiracychart.com – these are tiers of “you need to shut up” at the top, to “yes, these are real and interesting to talk about” at the bottom.
This is the best take on this subject. I’ve tried to say the same but…whatever it doesn’t matter…Dude is just a clown that tried to be deep and turned into a complete jack@$$. I knew he was a moron the minute he started talking that flat earth nonsense
Wonder if he just was trying to figure out a way to get waived
I thought that too — or at least when it became an issue maybe he thought worst case he p*sses everyone off then goes to LA
He may have miscalculated though — being on the wrong side of the vaccine debate and the … uh, Holocaust?—might make his future prospects in the NBA more bleak than he imagined
Waived because he’d just rather get paid to not play – not waived because he wants to go to another team.
The Rockets are loving this. Not the hate garbage this idiot is promoting, but the downfall of the Nets because if the draft picks owed to Houston.
Oh yeah I didn’t even think of that. Brooklyn tanks, Houston benefits. Though honestly the Nets are playing better without Kyrie, at least early on, than they were when he was taking up headspace.
Houston does NOT own Brooklyn’s 2023 1st rounder. Houston has the right to swap picks. If Brooklyn lands in the lottery with Houston, the Rockets can swap picks if Brooklyn’s pick is higher. Brooklyn would receive the lowest of the two lottery picks.
Is that the only pick they owe Houston? Do research so you don’t look stupid on your response
In general I think the league and media have gone harder at Kyrie on this than they would have if a player with a less checkered past posted something unsavory
BUT—if Kyrie chooses to be waived / sit out rather than make a public statement that he’s not anti-Semitic … then I don’t see how he plays again in the NBA. He’ll become Mahmoud Abdul Rauf
In my opinion, Rauf and Kyrie are not the same. Rauf had personal reasons for not standing for the anthem and got scapegoated by the NBA. Of course, its 2022 and you aren’t required to stand for the anthem these days, but Kyrie isn’t “taking a stand on something he believes in”. He’s promoting misinformation and influencing other people’s opinions in a way that he should not.
In addition, Meyers Leonard (a player with no checkered past that I am aware of) said one anti-Semitic thing and the Heat immediately threw him out of the league. It doesn’t matter if you’re a G-league player or the 15th man off the bench or a superstar on a competitive (?) team. Discrimination and especially promoting discrimination isn’t okay.
Mahmoud Abdul Rauf played for three years after his protest. I think his 16 percent three-point percentage the year before he went off to play in Turkey might have had something to do with it.
Dam — I knew I should have looked up his basketball ref page before posting
Oh, I wasn’t sure…That’s why I did.
I’ve always said that Social Media will be the downfall of western civilization…
Yup. Curb free speech, don’t curb free speech…probably screwed either way.
No one is curbing free speech. Kyrie and every other doofus out there has all the freedom in the world to say whatever they want. People have more freedom to say dumb stuff now than ever before.
But people are allowed to react, companies can discipline employees, and social media platforms can ban you. Deal with the consequences.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer fellow.
Hahaha I’m sure Kyrie’s thinking that too.
I would say the Nets have “growing optimism” that Kyrie will never play for them again.
Trade him to Macabi Tel Aviv
Even better if David Blatt, his ex coach, was coaching them.
Hopefully it was Stein, and not Marks, that suggested the team might change its mind and waive KI if he doesn’t fulfill the requirements. That would be rewarding him; absent some overriding agreement with the league. Tsai has proven quite the wimp, but nothing on that level.
Say he tagged a clip of the Borat Movie Film, which is full of anti-Semitic jokes. Would Kyrie be held to the same standard? It’s OK in comedy but not in documentaries??
Made by a Jewish person as a parody. It has no malicious intent. Kyrie’s video spouts stuff that Hitler would be happy with
I think you are now the Champion Whatabouter.
Thank you, it’d be the first championship I ever won. Good thing Jews generally have a good sense of humor.
Let’s all step back, take a deep breath, and remember that the author of this story is Marc Stein.
Kyrie & Joe Harris to LA for Russ, Reaves & LAL’s 2027 1st.. #FreeKyrie
Guys, Kyrie has 0% trade value.
The Lakers aren’t touching him either, even if they could move Westbrook in the trade. Read Bron’s comments about Kyrie, they’re not a glowing endorsement.
No one needs the headache that is KI. Regardless of his skill level, which is undoubtedly top 10 in the league, he is ultimately a negative influence on any team at this point. Amazing how the Nets went out the night after KI was suspended and destroyed the Wiz by 42. It was like a Kyrie size weight had been lifted off their shoulders.
If he doesn’t play for the Nets again, I don’t know that we see him in the L again.
Is he top 10? really? Embiid, Tatum, Luka, Morant, Lebron, Curry, Joker, KD, Dame, Harden.
That is off the top of my head. I would rather have every one of those guys v. KI.
I dont even think he is high in the second 10.
Kyrie is the arguably the greatest tragedy in NBA history and one of the most overrated.
he said top 10 skill level.
If Marc Stein is taking bets, count me in. Irving definitely plays another game for the Nets. I’d guess in about 4 games
Kyrie has an army to support – and that’s expensive. I think Stein is reaching here.
if kyrie didnt have the anti-vax issues last year & this happened, do u think it would be as big a story?
It’s time for us all to move on from Kyrie Irving
“Growing pessimism “ In this sites comments threads
Stick to hoops discourse you arm chair
Social justice warriors
#LetKyriePlay
That’s what all the fans want, the right thing to do… fine BRK for not letting him play!!!!
Ultimately, teams win with character, not characters….