After reporting earlier in the week that the Knicks had expressed interest in acquiring Bucks guard Grayson Allen in a possible Cam Reddish trade, Michael Scotto of HoopsHype says Milwaukee continues to resist the idea of including Allen in any deal for Reddish.
According to Scotto, the Bucks have instead proposed a trade structure that would be centered around a 2023 second-round pick and salary filler. That “salary filler” could consist of veteran guard George Hill and big man Serge Ibaka, Scotto adds.
As for the second-round pick, the Bucks control both their own 2023 second-rounder and the least favorable of the Cavaliers’ and Warriors’ selections. Both Milwaukee and Cleveland currently have top-seven records, so those picks would both be in the 50s.
Here’s more from Scotto:
- Marc Stein previously reported that rival teams were monitoring Kings center Richaun Holmes as a potential buyout candidate if he’s not moved at the trade deadline. However, league sources tell Scotto that a buyout won’t happen for Holmes this season. That’s no surprise — as I previously noted, Holmes is still owed $12MM in 2023/24 and $12.9MM on a ’24/25 player option after this season, while buyouts typically occur when a player is on an expiring deal.
- Rival executives still believe that the Timberwolves will explore trading point guard D’Angelo Russell before the deadline, says Scotto. There were rumblings in December that the Heat and Wolves had at least a conversation about a swap involving Russell and Kyle Lowry, according to Scotto, but with Miami playing better, the team isn’t looking to move Lowry at this point.
- Former Thunder VP and chief of staff Paul Rivers and former NBA point guard Mateen Cleaves have been mentioned by multiple NBA executives as candidates to join the Suns‘ organization, Scotto reports. Cleaves played with incoming Suns owner Mat Ishbia at Michigan State.
No good GM would give up Allen in a Reddish deal. Allen>Reddish. Plus Allen fits in well with Bucks
Reddish and bucks 1st for bouknight and jones, best for all 3 players
Nobody familiar with his history is taking Bouknight regardless. Jones is worth no more than Reddish, and there are probably better places for him.
I take Bouknight.
New Suns owner was a player of Michigan State U
He may acquire
Magic 5 rings
Draymond 4 rings
Magic as in Magic Johnson? He has proven to be a terrible executive. So here is hoping lol.
I’m all for teams I don’t cheer for having terrible management!
As long as the Bucks don’t make the foolish mistakes of moving Allen or acquiring Crowder (good player, but getting old and hasn’t suited up this year and has no future potential).
Bucks’ roster is mostly fine with KM back. Ingles performing well (that’s their real deadline deals).
They do need to consider the future and Reddish is by no means a bust (the coach just doesn’t like him).
Bucks should up the ante a bit. Make it Ibaka, Hill, Nwora and TWO seconds for Reddish and Jericho Sims. Considering that the Knicks practically wanted to give away Cam for a 2nd round pick or two, that’s a massive overpay (though NY might not want to give up the promising Sims, even if he has no outside shot).
KM and Lopez are getting old, and those two seem like talents that could thrive in this system under Bud’s coaching.
It’s safe to say that Sims wouldn’t be available in a deal of this type.
He didn’t play much last year and still only plays 15 minutes a game now. He clearly only shoots when he has a dunk (ridiculous shooting percentage). Only 6 starts and hasn’t even played in close to the total amount of Knick games. Robinson is clearly a starter that has developed well over time. Ibaka can be a stop gap for the Knicks to fill those few minutes while they consider a new back up for next year.
Not sure why they wouldn’t consider it. It’s not like he will ever be a huge scorer or superstar. He might not ever get to the point of playing 25 a game.
It’s a dream for me to get younger and more athletic and these two fill the bill. They want nothing for Cam and the players are really just to balance the books. Lopez can’t play at this level forever, and Portis has developed into a nice piece, but he’s still better off backing up the 4 and 5.
The Bucks will need to replace Lopez, but when they do, Sims would still be their 3rd string big man.
3rd string big man. Which is exactly why the Knicks would move him. His rebounding and athleticism on D make him an attractive piece to keep, especially on the cheap contract he’s on.
*wouldn’t.
The rebounding and athleticism and cheap deal make him a role player on a contender.
Which the Knicks are not.
Nor is Thibs good at developing players.
Which Bud is.
It makes more sense for HIM to want to leave.
It’s simple. Two diametrically opposed situations.
Sims is a young player who fits the identity and culture of the NYK, bought in, has played great when called upon (and stays ready when he’s not), and is signed for 2 more years at about minimum wage. His freaky athleticism allows him to add in many ways, even situationally. This is what you hope for when drafting in the second round, but VERY rarely get, particularly with late seconds. You don’t give it back.
Reddish is talented, but didn’t fit, isn’t playing and is now an expiring deal. He asked to be traded and we’re trying to accommodate him. If he said he wants to stay, and was willing to re-sign for minimum wage for the next 2 years and buy in to the team culture, then the NYK almost certainly wouldn’t be willing to sell him off for second round picks. But that’s far from the case.
MIL should be pursuing rising RFAs who carry Bird Rights like Reddish. Without cap space and having only the TxMLE, getting guys who can be signed outside of that exception (or minimum) has real value. That’s what they did with Allen. For Reddish, the NYK probably can get a better second than MIL has for 2023. They’re accommodating Reddish, not looking to deal a young piece they love and just resigned.
Bucks also own 2 other seconds this year. One is better than their and one worse (CLE the latter, not sure of the former).
The Knicks are going nowhere. Sims has bought in, but that’s because it’s Thibs’ way or the highway (see: Reddish). He’s TERRIBLE at actually developing a player and teaching them new skills. He just wants to see what the player has and pigeonhole him into that for life.
Which is why he’s a disastrously bad coach with a terrible history.
Bud, however, teaches players new skills and encourages them. He not only utilizes what they already have, but makes them better at other skills.
Which is why Sims should run. Fast.
Because the Knicks have a few pieces worth building around in Mitchell, Toppin, Quickly, Barrett, and Brunson. But Rose is done and Randle is an offensive black hole who kills momentum (his ceiling is first guy off the bench and they should trade him to a contender).
Sims doesn’t fit into those plans. He’s a role player on a contender.
Which the Knicks are not and the Bucks are.
The deal I proposed is a MASSIVE overpay. They only want 2 seconds for Cam. Fine, that’s in the deal. And so are 3 players who fit Thibs ideal more, which is worth it for the Knicks (who need to move on from expensive mediocrities like Randall and open cap space for a superstar to fit around the other 5 guys I mentioned).
Knicks would hang up. There is zero reason why the Knicks would make such a deal, nonetheless move Sims.
They want to get rid of Cam. Maybe they need to throw in a sweetener to the deal. Are they going to make the play offs and advance? Doubtful.
Are they going to be going into a serious rebuild soon?
Absolutely.
Will they be building around Sims?
Absolutely not.
The rebuild will be around Quickley, Barret, Mitchell and Toppin. They need to move on from Randall and Rose.
And they need to use that cap space to sign a true superstar (which Randall will never be).
If they want to get rid of Cam, they can just let him walk after the year is over.
Will they build around Sims? Of course not, but they’d want to retain him for the same reason you suggest the Bucks trade for him – cheap backup who can contribute when needed.
Knicks aren’t in the business for taking another teams problems/salaries unless they’re getting something good back in return. There’s nothing that you listed that is of value, and the second rounder isn’t even equal to a Sims.
Best place for Cam is Houston or Utah. If he can’t find his game there. Then he needs to go to Europe. Wasted talent to me.