Trail Blazers general manager Joe Cronin denied that the team did anything wrong in its medical treatment of Gary Payton II, saying that the reserve guard had been “cleared” to play and the organization was “confident that he was healthy,” Bill Oram of The Oregonian tweets.
The four-team trade involving the Warriors, Pistons, Trail Blazers and Hawks is in jeopardy after Payton failed to pass the Warriors’ physical exam on Friday. Though the trade has been announced as official, players still had to undergo physical exams.
Payton has a lingering core muscle injury that could sideline him for up to three months, according to the exam by the Warriors’ medical staff. Payton underwent surgery in the offseason to address a core muscle injury and was sidelined until early January.
He has been playing regularly since his return, including a 22-minute stint against Golden State on Wednesday in which he scored nine points and grabbed three rebounds.
However, Payton has been playing through pain and the Blazers training staff has been giving him Toradol shots to help him stay on the court, according to a report by The Athletic. That information wasn’t relayed to the Warriors during the negotiation process, The Athletic adds.
Cronin defended the Portland organization and medical staff.
“Player safety is super important to us, it’s a super important thing around the league,” he said. “We were playing him, he was playing. He had been cleared. We were confident he was healthy when he was playing. We would not have brought him back if we thought he wasn’t healthy or he was at risk, so you trust that we did the right thing, and you trust that our process was correct.”
The Warriors have until Saturday to decide whether to nix the complex deal.
Adjust the trade so the Warriors keep 2 second round picks and instead of sending 5, they send 3. Get Gary Payton healthy for next season, and hit the buyout Market heavy duty for Wing defense and backup Defenders who are athletic with length. Maybe a big man also.
Or nix the trade and hit the buyout market heavy
This would have been hilarious if Wiseman had suited up for DET vs the Spurs and dropped like 40 and 20 and the Ws are just like nah nah give him back. It would be wild if a guy played one game with another team in a season…
rasheed wallace. 2003, atl hawks. 42 min. 20-6-2.
He was involved with three different teams not two that year
Not sure how wild it was but it’s definitely happened. We got Josh Smith out of it so I’d call that a win/win.. link to m.youtube.com
Just looking at the like basketball reference page where its like 39 GM then 1 then 43 back again.
Another one I assume is factored in is that Mikal Bridges is the current leader in consecutive games played, but has missed games due to the trade for both teams, I assume since it was a trade ineligibility as long as he suits up for the first game he is allowed with BRK his record continues.
Actually, even with being held out of games, he could play 83 regular season games in an 82-game season. He played in 56 games for the Suns this year. The Nets have 27 games remaining.
I don’t think any of the involved players can play until the trade is official.
That’s what I would expect as well
If you nix the trade, then ATL gets screwed for nothing they did.
Read somewhere it all or nothing, you cannot amend as trade deadline passed.
You can submit amendments to the league and they can choose to allow or not.
I feel like he should still be able to play in the postseason.
Did the gm of Portland ever address the critical point at hand?
That of not disclosing the toradol shots in the medical record?
Everything else he says isn’t relevant to the question.
Blazers GM press conference was all obfuscation and bull. CYA. Toradol is a strong NSAID, not a maintenance drug. Meant for post surgery, a few days.
Big Rocky IV vibes
They were so confident he was healthy that they gave him toradol shots just for fun.
Is a core injury one of those types of injuries where you’re not making it any worse by playing, but it will never heal completely without the long rest (3 months in this case)? Otherwise, continuing to play him with this injury could violate a league injury policy, I imagine
Trail Blazers GM Joe Cronin need tons of back up documents to support what he said, but he has nothing at all.
NOTHING.
Trail Blazers GM Joe Cronin denied that the team did anything wrong in its medical treatment of Gary Payton II, saying that the reserve guard had been “cleared” to play and the organization was “confident that he was healthy,”
How do you know he has no documents to support his claims?
Hrs a Russian bot, there’s never any paperwork
We all do realize that GP2’s core muscle injury is the same injury that Lillard played through for 6 seasons. There’s no permanent damage that can be done playing through the injury expect for the discomfort. Dame got the occasional cortisone shot when needed.
Is anyone seriously going to tell me that if Dame still had his injury that the Warriors doctors would have failed him for his physical if he was traded to the warriors?
That’s cool and all but not disclosing that information is shady and not how you do business. Deserves the backlash he’s getting and him and Portland medical staff is probably the reason the players that are departing are happy to be leaving.
Pretty Susa when one team says your fine, can’t do anymore damage and just take these injections you’ll be sweet. Then the other team says he might need 3 months off to be healthy. Also it’s reported GP2 had a great time with GSW and was looking forward to leaving Portland.
Sounds like major issues within the Blazers. Not only that but even the trades they made were trash. Billups wants to add size and experience so they give away GP2 and Josh Hart for Cam Reddish, Mattise Thybulle and Kevin Knox.
Why not get Jae Crowder for dirt cheap? Why not try add Saqid Bey who’s got an extra year on his deal and is a better player than all 3?
Think Portland needs to rebuild from the inside
All Portlanders know something is very wrong with FO/Ownership for about 5 seasons. We don’t know if the blazers are going to be in Portland, we don’t know if they treat the players badly, and mishandle them, and we don’t know if we paid a GM to be abusive to coaches & staff for 7 seasons. Problems in Portland seems like another day, another dollar. I’m not so sure they played Payton improperly medically. Also, GS could have buyers remorse, this story is new, and there would need to be an IME (independent medical examiner) exam to further back up the GS claim. Years ago Portland Medically waived Darius Miles only for the Grizzlies to intentionally stick Portland with $18 or so million bill. So proving this medical stuff is very difficult. Payton could have also just injured himself in the last game he played, and it had yet to be discovered. Proving negligence should be easy if there is proof. Lots of hyperbole with medical diagnosis from Dr to Dr, so this is far from concluded. I think it goes through, Portland loses 2 picks. Crappy deal, but better than Payton injured for next season too.
I’m not sure how the shots work but a couple of years ago I had an abdominal strain and it would not allow me to run. There was no core strength that allowed me to put one leg in front of the other and run. Walking was fine.. it was getting into that running motion that the strained lower abdomen area wouldn’t let happen. Had to sit out 3 months coincidentally.
Also I think the abductor has something to do with it. There’s just no strength in that area to pull your leg from behind you, to in front of you. You can push off okay, you just can’t swing the leg to out in front and run. Bizarre.