James Harden‘s decision to exercise his $35.6MM player option and ask for a trade stems from displeasure with the Sixers over how they handled negotiations, according to Sam Amick of The Athletic.
Harden has a strong desire to join the Clippers and is optimistic that a deal will take place, sources tell Amick. He also hears that Kawhi Leonard and Paul George support the idea of adding Harden.
Amick cites a series of “silent signals” from the Sixers organization that led to Harden’s dissatisfaction. After turning down a $47.4MM player option last summer and signing for $33MM to give the team extra cap space to build its roster, Harden was expecting a generous offer from Philadelphia president of basketball operations Daryl Morey if he declined his current option and entered free agency as expected.
However, sources tell Amick that Morey’s position was to have Harden test the market before making an offer. With interest from the Rockets reportedly drying up, Harden feared that the Sixers would offer a short-term, bargain contract and that he would be stuck on the open market with no way to get the type of deal he believes he deserves.
A potential return to Houston had been rumored since Christmas when ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski broke the news that Harden was considering it. However, the Rockets decided weeks ago that Harden wasn’t a good fit under new coach Ime Udoka, according to Amick. Owner Tilman Fertitta, his son Patrick Fertitta and general manager Rafael Stone remain fond of Harden and are fans of what he can do on the court, Amick adds, but the organization decided to go in another direction with its $64MM in cap room.
Harden had been hoping to create a bidding war between the Sixers and Rockets to wind up with one last mega-deal — something in the range of $200MM over four years — according to Yaron Weitzman of Fox Sports. As of late May, Harden hadn’t communicated his intentions to Philadelphia’s front office, Weitzman adds, and there was concern than he planned to leave even after Nick Nurse replaced Doc Rivers as head coach.
However, Rockets executives have been letting the league know for several months that they weren’t convinced Harden was headed there, according to Weitzman’s sources. Also, per Weitzman, the Rockets have informed agents that they’re not interested in offering contracts longer than two years so they won’t run into a salary crunch when their young players start becoming eligible for extensions.
Amick reports that Harden had a desire to be traded to the Suns before they acquired Bradley Beal and that Kevin Durant was on board with the move. It also would have represented a homecoming for Harden, who played at Arizona State and still has a home in the Phoenix area, but Amick states that the Sixers never talked to the Suns about a possible deal before the Beal opportunity arose.
Shams Charania of The Athletic says Philadelphia has already started trade discussions and mentions the Clippers and Heat as the most likely destinations (Twitter link). He adds that there’s an understanding around the league that a player of Harden’s caliber will eventually reach his “preferred destination,” which seems to favor L.A.
Miami isn’t expected to aggressively pursue Harden, tweets Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald, who adds the Heat are preserving their assets in case there’s an opportunity to acquire Damian Lillard from the Trail Blazers.
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I mean, Harden will be valuable to the Clippers when Kawhi and George get hurt.
And will get destroyed by the Nuggets when Porter, Jokic, and Gordon tower over the small clipper guards.
Zubac isn’t all that bad, just saying
Perfect fit for a first round failure, I hope no one acts surprised.
Anyone keeping track of how many teams Harden has blamed for something?
He does have a beef here. He gave up 14 million for nothing now. He also was smart to see the Net’s disfunction too. Powell Covington and Mann would be a good trade. IMO
Only if there was an actual agreement at the time, and not just Harden assuming that financial rewards would appear out the sky in a year. But the reporting makes it sound like the latter.
Who do the Clippers have to get this deal done?
Tobias Harris came from the Clippers, I don’t think he is going back and quite frankly, I would like to keep him (not that he was mentioned in the Harden article)
I can’t wait to see how all of this shakes down
He is mad sixers will not offer max/near max money. So he opted in, only issue I don’t trust the sixers to get back much to help current roster
Free Agency Friday!
LAC are the only team that wants him. The only reason to “opt in” is to go to a team that can’t do a SNT.
PHI is better off (this year) as a result of getting involved as a facilitator. They’ll get players who can contribute this year, and keep the salary slot this year and beyond. What they won’t get is much (if anything) in the way of valuable contracts. Just the LAC’s underwater contracts (since that’s all PHI is trading to them).
Powell,Mann and Covington or Zubac is the only deal I can see without trading George.
What an awful deal that would be for Clips. There goes all their depth. Replaced by three injury prone old stars who are all the same size more or less, and all are ball heavy on offense.
How else would you acquire a star? If not multiple depth pieces you would have to include a star. Salaries need to match. The clippers don’t have any players make over 20, so you need to include 3 players making 10+.
Right. Which is why they should absolutely NOT structure a deal that way. If they really want Harden, they need to trade PG or Kawhi. Which might be a slight improvement on offense because Harden is the point guard they never seem to have. But a big loss on defense. I’d just stay away, but the Clips are in a tight spot and don’t have a lot of options to get better.
Harden + Tucker for Powell, Morris, and Batum.
That gives the Sixers a lot more depth and line-up flexibility. The veteran leadership you lose in Tucker, you gain in Morris and Batum.
Then you need to look for a deal that swaps Furkan and House for 2 min-salary players or include 1 of them in the Harden trade or just dump them and sign a vet min guy.
Re-sign McDaniels. TBD on Reed. Renounce Shake and Niang. MLE for Westbrook or partial for like Colby White, Cory Joseph. They need a PG on the team and Shake isn’t it.
C – Embiid / Reed / Morris
PF – Morris / McDaniels / Tobias
SF – Tobias / Batum
SG – Maxey / Powell / Springer
PG – Westbrook / Melton
12th Man TBD.
Don’t think there is a deal to be made for Tobias and a starting PG. So you’re better off keeping him.
If they intend to play Maxey at the point, then you have some flex on how you use your MLE to stay below the tax.
I think you are on the right path, except Westbrook. That starting five cannot shoot very well. I’d start maxey and powell. You can get one of the wizards reserve guards (morris or wright) for a 2nd round pick and they can handle reserve point/spot starting duties. Offer the full MLE to Bruce brown or divincenzo
I would probably try to acquire Covington in your deal as well. Maybe add House or korkmaz to make the money work. I’d take a flier in a center like Hayes or bamba on the vet min to see if they have anything.
Embiid-Reed-hayes or bamba
Harris- Covington -mcdaniels
Brown or divincenzo-Marcus morris-batum
Powell-melton-springer
Maxey-morris or wright
Those are some terrible ideas from a Sixers perspective, great as a Clipper fan. As a Sixer fan the trade starts with Mann. As a Clipper fan your praying the Sixers will take on Batum. And let’s be honest I’m happy for Westbrook and I’m happy for you that your a fan of his. But no one is gonna jump through hoops for a guy that can’t shoot.
Well I don’t think they give up Mann. Also, Westbrook while he is a guaranteed brick, hes the best available PG after Kyrie and FVV and may accept the MLE. If they could get Colby White for less, I’d do that. PGs other than via trade are slim pickings. They don’t have enough salaries to trade for a decent PG, the MLE is their main route.
That’s again if you are playing Maxey off ball. If Nurse is sticking the ball I Maxeys hand then I wouldn’t go Westbrook, I’d look at Malik Beasley, MJ of Delaware, Strus, Seth Curry, Lonnie Walker, Oubre, Prince, Saric and some others for the MLE or partial MLE.
Biggest thing Sixers lacked was depth, defenders, and consistent 3 pt shooters.
Batum 39%, Morris 36%, and Powell 39% provide all of that. Powell provides the least defense but could be the main scoring option on the 2nd unit. I mean some may prefer RoCo. I watched that inconsistency for years, I’m good.
If the Clippers wanna give up Mann, that’s great for the Sixers, but I’m being realistic.
PICK ONE
Harden is a POS
Harden is a jaagoff
Why would anyone want him?
All of the above.
Harden wanted to create a bidding war, Sixers wisely decided to endulge him and would respond to any offer but no offers came to him so now hes mad lol
What garbage are the clippers trying to dump?
Like for like i guess
as a 76er fan I’m so glad to see Harden realize that he isn’t wanted like he thought he would be. his plan of having philly and Houston bid against each other and it didn’t work now he wants to go somewhere else.
Now we should trade Embiid and start a rebuild with maxey
The idea that Durant and Harden (and maybe Kyrie) were seemingly ready to team up again is absolutely hilarious. Never change, NBA.
They did look great for about 20 games!
This is going to bite Philly even harder than just losing Harden for peanuts. Other players will take note and may not be as willing to deal with Morey and 76ers down the road. Harden forced a trade to get there then took less money than he could’ve gotten last season for the “good” of the team in hopes along with a wink and a nod that his old “friend” Morey would hook him up this off-season. Nope! That’s why these guys should always take every last cent they can while they can.
I highly doubt Morey said I’ll give you a Max contract.
If Harden was that dude still that commanded a max deal, hed be in Houston already. No one was offering him close to his opt-in.
If Harden accepted a 4/80 or 4/100 last year is non-guaranteed okay, I think theres a deal to be made. Teams have seen two 3/90 deals for older PGs turn to dog poo (Lowry and CP3). Learn from others mistakes.
Those are both bad examples. CP3 went to the Suns and calmed the kids down and gave the Suns a structured offense and a two year window at a championship. You’re a little closer with Lowry as he has missed a lot time during his tenure in Miami but he’s hot some big buckets in the last two playoffs as they made rums to the ECF and NBA Finals.
Shocked… Shocked, shocked I tell ya…
Well maybe not that shocked…
Was always going to happen… As soon as Harden took a discount another would soon follow unless he had a MVP level year…
He wanted more than the 76ers could give him if they wanted to improve their roster…
And the 76ers knew they couldn’t win with Harden eating up so much of the salary cap…