The Sixers‘ options for a potential Tobias Harris trade are growing, but they seem more inclined to keep him, according to Keith Pompey of The Philadelphia Inquirer.
Pompey hears that the Suns, Jazz and Mavericks have expressed interest in acquiring the veteran forward, joining the Cavaliers, Pacers and Pistons, who Pompey mentioned as possible trade partners prior to the draft.
A source tells Pompey that Phoenix views Harris as an ideal complement to its new Big Three of Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal. The Suns are hoping to get a deal done before the new Collective Bargaining Agreement takes effect on July 1 to avoid restrictions involving the second tax apron.
The main impediment to a deal with Phoenix is that the Sixers would have to take Deandre Ayton in return, Pompey adds. Philadelphia doesn’t have any use for another center with Joel Embiid on the roster, especially with Ayton owed $102MM over the next three years.
The Sixers wouldn’t be interested in any other trade package the Suns could offer, according to Pompey. His source says Phoenix wants to add a third team to facilitate the deal, but Philadelphia hasn’t been willing to pursue that option.
The Pacers made overtures about Harris during Thursday’s draft, but sources tell Pompey they don’t have enough assets to make a deal work. Pompey is skeptical that Indiana can change that in light of Harris’ $39.2MM salary for the upcoming season.
Pompey also hears that Sixers management is overvaluing Harris in trade talks and asking for outrageous compensation in return. A source tells him that when the Cavaliers inquired about Harris, Philadelphia responded by asking for Jarrett Allen, Evan Mobley and a draft pick. A source told Pompey that Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey “isn’t negotiating in good faith.”
Philadelphia appears determined to keep Harris, Pompey adds, knowing that more trade opportunities will arise before the deadline in February. A source told Pompey that Nick Nurse is looking forward to coaching Harris and plans to give him a larger role in the offense than Doc Rivers did.
Well when teams with absolutely no intention of making a legitimate offer call you, might as well mess with them.
Like what were the Cavs going to offer? S&T LeVert?
Suns know that Ayton isn’t viable, so if they want to do the legwork and find a package the Sixers would take, go for it, but that’s on the Suns.
76ers have a terrible luxury tax plan
Tax line $165 MM
Current salary $158 MM
Going forward, they would add Maxey to the salary, so they have no choice but trade Harris
If not trade Harris, ….
McDaniel (huge asset)
Niang
Milton
Reed
LOL at McDaniels being a “huge asset”.
Jaden is the huge asset…
Wrong team…
Maxey extension would not coincide with Harris deal so I don’t know why those are correlated
All 3 teams (Suns, Jazz, Mavericks) have nothing that 76ers want. None of them can improve 76ers, none.
All 3 teams are not dealing away all stars
It’s Tobias Harris. Why the heck would he return an all star?
Lol you know nothing about assets especially expiring contracts along with the new cba.
I wouldn’t say nothing that can improve the Sixers, at least in Utah’s case. The cap gymnastics it would take for the Sixers to land Markkanen would be insane though if they wanted to dump Harris and make it worth it for Utah
My best trade idea would be
Kings sign Harrison Barnes 3 years $60mm
Kings get Harris
76ers get Barnes
Kings use $20mm cap room
This would help 76ers save luxury tax
Barnes is an MLE guy moving forward, no one is giving him 20M per.
Nah, The Black Falcon still puts up 15 a game on .373 from deep, At 30 he started every game last season. If you that along with veteran leadership he’s going to fetch at $15 million a season.
What team with cap space is signing a 30+ year old role player to 20+/year?
Not bad. If the Kings don’t get Kuzma then this should be considered
I hope I speak for all Kings fans when I say “no thanks”…
Harris is WAY overrated these days!
Jordan Clarkson, Kelly Olynyk, Kris Dunn, a protected first rounder and a second rounder for Tobias Harris.
Bench depth for the 76ers, a few picks, and save luxury tax.
Sexton, Agbagi, Markkanen, Harris, and Kessler . Let Hendriks develop behind Markkanen and Harris
I flagged this because it’s offensive. IT’S TOBIAS HARRIS.
Harris is so overrated and paid. Jazz would pursue someone that can move the needle.
No Tobias might be overpaid but he’s not overrated. In fact he’s underrated. Yes he has a tendency to disappear in a game but when your fourth in FGA behind Embiid, Harden and Maxey? Only thing he can do is shoot a high percentage when you get your chance. He’s been around 48/37/85 the last few years with Philly. He’s not going to offer much in creating shots for others or be a dog on defense but he’s about average defensively and can score on all 3 levels. Going to the Suns seems an odd fit. Would he play the 3 and Durant the 4 or the other way around? Why go thru all that for a guy who probably won’t touch the ball much to be affective offensively? Might as well go for a more defensive minded player.
I would like him for the Cavs at the 3 but I can’t see them moving Mitchell nor Garland and Mobley or Allen wouldn’t make sense unless there’s a 3rd team involved. Even then I wouldn’t send Mobley. The idea of the 76ers asking for both Allen and Mobley + assets is so crazy and makes no sense. Why would Philly want 2 more centers???
Harris has no value really. He’s an okay player on inflated contract. Only thing good is his contract in expiring afetr the 2023-2024 season!
Really ? Five teams pursue
3 team trade. Suns Ayton to? 76s Harris to Suns and ?
gee…maybe they can all take pay cuts and join the Lakers, sillivan
Why do people think the 76ers HAVE to dump Harris? He has 1 year left on his deal. That’s a valuable commodity. His contract is no longer considered an albatross & odds are he’s not making over 20M/year with his next contract. That’s why he’s also valuable. He’s a good player. It was his contract that was always the problem because he wasn’t THAT good. Now either the 76ers or his next team will be able to re-sign him to a more reasonable contract.
I’m not sure I believe the report of what Morey asked for from Cleveland but if he did, it had to be basically him saying that there’s not a deal to be made with them & gave them that to show what he means. As for his asking price for Harris… It should be high for the reason I stated above.
This is correct. As of right now there really isn’t a deal to be made with anyone. Add Ayton to the mix and it begins to get extremely difficult.
Once the season gets into swing and the Deadline approaches, opportunities will open up to make a deal. Even by that time, 76ers may decide to keep him if he’s playing well
Well said with regards to Harris. Over compensated but a productive offensive player. Not his fault they offered so much.
I would trade every single draft pick I had for the next 10 years for cash. I’d sell them all for whomever wants to pay me the most for each pick. I’d then use the cash to sign free agents.
That’s not how the CBA works…
And the new CBA would make all that money redundant to a luxury tax paying team…
That’s an mlb type move except they sell the picks to line their pockets and spend only 1/4-1/2 of the $
Feels like it was just yesterday when the Sixers were looking for anyone to take him. And I’m really struggling to see how the Suns feel there’s enough shots to go around with 4 scorers on the court. Who is playing defense in the paint? Point?
Defence is on Okogie…
The Mavs are so poorly managed that I am not surprised to read their interest here…
Suns seem headed for Brooklyn Nets KG situation…
The Jazz though… That’s weird…
Yeah, it does seem odd. The only reason I can think of is if they think the Sixers will need to offload his salary, like they did for the Lakers’ Westbrook contract.
He’s too old and makes too much money for their current timeline. That’s unless they plan to make a full playoff push and have other vets in mind to go after as well? They were interested in KP as well.
No point letting Harris run down his deal like they’ve done with Harden cause all that does it make it more expensive to resign him at the end of the year.
Harris himself is a great locker room guy and cool guy but he’s not really the ideal fit on this team. He’s been demoted to 4th scoring option, and although efficient it’s not really his style. He’s not a catch and shoot guy, he’s not above average defensively, he’s not that versatile on defence either.
Ideally we bring back 2 or more players than can offer us some good minutes. For example, I already suggested DeAndre Hunter and John Collins. I’d love that return for us. Hunter can play either forward spot, gives you about 15 points and a solid defender. Collins a PF off a down season can play inside and out, can play small ball 5 aswell.
I’m surprised the suns would be willing to give up Ayton to get it done. Obviously no way Cleveland make that deal but at the same time we have no need for Allen and salary wise its either Garland or Mitchell. And both of those are straight nos also.Pacers I’d rather not have Heild and Theis, Jazz I’d rather not have Sexton, Gay and extras, Mavs only player I like on there is Kyrie and I doubt that happens. Suns don’t want Ayton. Cavs already explained. So lastly the pistons, I’d do Tobias for Bogi, Bagley and Burks.
3 quality role players. Bogi slots in straight for Tobias, while adding Bagley and Burks to the bench. Bagkey can play the 4 or 5 spot, and if developed could be huge for us. Burks is just the ideal shooter/scorer you want and he’s already had a run with us in the past and was solid then.
Maxey Harden Tucker Bogi Embiid
Melton Burks … Bagley …
Ideally bring back Niang and or McDaniels and I’d be stoked with that.
Exploring a Ayton deal via a third team…
Maybe DeRozan and bits should they not bring back Vuve or want to go into a rebuild. Would also be dependent on Harden not returning…
Maybe surprising I would be keen on Ayton to Washington, Kuzma to Philly. Kuzma is younger, better defensively and a better catch and shooter guy. Washington could smart with Tyus Poole Coulibaly and Ayton to start the rebuild.
Ayton to Dallas, Kyrie to Philly (fingers crossed)
Those would be the deals I’d make..
ATL, Detroit, Dallas or Kuzma
You need to put a helmet on. You’re clearly special
Atl Collins and bogdon for 76s Harris and Springer
Honestly, if the Jazz are serious about a playoff push then why wouldn’t they instead just sign Kuzma instead of Harris? How is Harris any bit superior, at this point?
Tobias was a 50/39/86 shooter. Kuzbass was more around 44/33/73. Big difference. Tobias is overpaid considering he’s a 4th option if they keep Harden. Horner, Kuzma is looking for a big check too.
Suns are only involved for a three team trade. There is no way they’re interests in Harris, he doesn’t fit and taking in MORE salary isn’t what the Suns are looking to do.
Morey is an A$$
Really …….. some of these writers are Almost, almost as bad as some posters.
Why would Suns want Tobias when KD plays his position. And why wouldn’t Sixers want Ayton who they can easily flip in a three way.
Sixers have never used Tobias the right way. And they took him over Jimmy. Then Brought in Moreyon to bring his man crush Haren.
Sixers are a done organization. This team is never winning with Haren. And they can’t even get away from him. And now the East is that much better. So it’s over for the Sixers.
Time to blow it up ……..
You are so bitter about your 500 Knicks every year,you flog on a 50 plus win team . No you aren’t getting jojo. No the sixers aren’t blowing it up.
I doubt you understand the game. Cause you are lying about me. .500 for a rebuilding team is a milestone lol. Im not One of those fans.
But you can explain to me why the Sixers are going to do so well. And try not to use the Knicks to make the point. It shows intelligence when you can do it that way.
You’re not getting Joel Embiid no matter how much you say the 76ers are bad & should blow it up on a NBA rumor comment section. The Knicks would be nowhere near the top of what they could offer even if the 76ers were entertaining trading Embiid which they aren’t.
Why would the Sixers go thru the trouble of trading for Ayton with the intent of flipping him when it seems the Suns are having trouble moving him themselves???
Like I said, Tobias would be a good fit for Phoenix. Tobias for Ayton
Would need a 3rd team. Maybe Ayton to Hornets for Mark Williams and Hayward or Rozier to 76rs
I’d just rather keep Tobias, if this is the return lol…this would is (another) terrible idea
And Dwayne Dedmon to Phoenix
Most everyone here is missing the point. The Suns don’t care about fit. It’s like Jordan Poole for Chris paul. 4 years of 30 million or one year of 30 million? That’s what’s at stake. That’s why teams are chomping at the bit for Tobias Harris. It’s not his game that’s for sure
If Tobias made 15 million less this wouldn’t be a problem. Hes a good rotation player, borderline all star sometimes and Ive always liked him as a Sixers fan but I definitely think the money he’s making should be going to 2-3 guys. The other problem is the 2-3 guys I’m refering to are on teams that don’t want to give them up for one almost all star.
Morey’s mode of operation isn’t popular among other NBA FO’s. It’s not just the ridiculous asks or counters, it’s the fact that he makes them to forego normal trade discussions, which, yes, can certainly be a waste of his time where the parameters of a deal are not, and sometimes can’t be, set prior to discussing players of interest. Still, it’s the norm, and some would say that alone makes it a part of his job. Anyway, it’s naive to think his actions in this regard don’t have a cost.