The Jazz are open to trading forward John Collins, a team source tells Andy Larsen of The Salt Lake Tribune (subscriber link).
The news is somewhat surprising, since Utah just traded for Collins in July. Still, the Jazz only gave up a second-round pick to acquire the 26-year-old, who was essentially salary dumped by the Hawks after being involved in rumors for years.
As Larsen explains, the Jazz have been “frustrated” by Collins’ “slow uptake” on learning the team’s system on both offense and defense. He also has the worst net rating differential on the team (minus-11.8), and hasn’t provided much beyond his solid shooting and rebounding, says Larsen.
However, Collins’ “iffy” performance early in 2023/24 — plus the $77MM he’s owed over the next three years — could make it difficult for the Jazz to find a trade partner, according to Larsen. Utah acquired the seven-year veteran to either have him as long-term piece or to flip him in the future for a positive return. Both of those scenarios seem unlikely at this point.
Here are a few more Jazz notes and rumors from Larsen:
- Aside from Collins, guards Jordan Clarkson and Collin Sexton are also in Larsen’s “more likely to be traded” category, and he notes that a previous report from Michael Scotto of HoopsHype indicated that Talen Horton-Tucker and Kelly Olynyk could be on the trade block too. Clarkson, Sexton and Horton-Tucker are all guards who “have had a penchant for over-dribbling, turnovers, and poor shot selection” in ’23/24, Larsen writes. Utah likes Sexton’s intensity and effort, but is looking for long-term backcourt members “who are more natural play-makers or have more defensive size.”
- Scotto reported that the Jazz could be in the market for a veteran point guard, but Larsen hears they’d only be interested if the price is right. The team’s disappointing start will likely have the front office prioritizing the future over a big win-now splash unless a superstar becomes available, per Larsen.
- The Jazz are unlikely to trade for Bulls guard Zach LaVine “unless it comes at a bargain-basement price,” the source tells Larsen.
- As for the players the team wants to keep, that group features Lauri Markkanen, Keyonte George, Taylor Hendricks, Walker Kessler and Ochai Agbaji, according to Larsen. Hendricks was selected ninth overall in June’s draft, but has spent most of the season in the G League. However, the Jazz are strong believers in his potential, and declined “an otherwise promising trade opportunity” involving Hendricks over the summer, Larsen reports.
John Collins, trade rumors king
I wouldn’t mind the Mavs…for Maxi and Holmes +SRP
Danny Ainge doing Danny Ainge things…
salary matches Draymond
Why would the Jazz do that? Who would want a clown like Draymond around a group of young players? And he doesn’t fit their contention window at all.
Depends on what the trade parameters are. I’d do it for Dray, a first and figure out a way to include Kuminga then flip Dray to Detroit for anyone.
It may seem like the Warriors are getting hosed,and to be fair they are but they get rid of the Donkey headache. It’s unlikely though because if Collins can’t figure Utah’s motion offense he’s going to have an even tougher time with Golden State.
Collins has a negative contract ($25MMish per over 3 years), to Rory’s point – a minus on offense and defense. So Utah will have to pick up a negative contract to get off his. My rec? Pick up Lonzo Ball who is out for the year. Why? It saves Utah $5MM this year and gets them out of a bad contract a year early. From Chicago’s view, they can start Collins at PF and bump Williams to SF and DeRozan to his natural SG. The Bulls are undersized and Collins would add rebounding …. There’s not many other options. Perhaps trading with the Pistons for the expiring contract of Joe Harris would be interesting, though Utah would have to give up draft compensation to make that palpitable for Detroit.
As a Mavs fan, I wouldn’t trade Maxi+Holmes for him? I would… he gives us size at the 4 to face Wolves/Nuggets
His numbers have bounced back a bit so far this season but he hasn’t been the same since the PED suspension.
This is one guy who I don’t think even Ainge will be able to trade away as part of a heist. No one is overpaying for him or that contract.
Jazz built the team they wanted – 3 PFs and no PGs. There are those here who thought the Jazz were smart in their approach – I wasn’t one of them.
The Jazz have been a terrible team (based on their record) since they traded Conley.
They were good (playoff picture) before that – a surprise team last year.
Then the reality of no PG hit, but apparently no-one in the management paid attention.
Instead they thought another Forward would help…and more draft picks, always more draft picks, you know, b/c Detroit has shown how far you can get being in the lottery every year…
The Jazz aren’t Detroit West yet – but there isn’t any clear plan to making this team a contender. Trades have not created success – they were a better team before – that isn’t a question.
The only question is if they will ever be as good as they were before they started making all the trades.
The Jazz’s record is a moot point, it’s year two of a rebuild. They’ve got an All-Star in Markannen and a solid center in Kessler.
OKC has also shown how far you can get being in lottery every season.
The path to making this team a contender is the fact they have plenty of picks and good trade assets.
OKC got their best player in a trade and Walker Kessler isn’t even starting….
Markannen was acquired in the Mitchell trade and yes Kessler is starting.
The Wolves are forever grateful for the Conley trade. Almost makes up for the overpay for Gobert.
Collins appeared to be the outlier move in UTH’s tank mobilization offseason. While skeptical, I figured, against all odds, they actually wanted him for basketball purposes. They didn’t get draft assets to take him, he didn’t figure to have much value in a short term flip or and wasn’t a guy likely to increase his trade value longer term (not with that contract at his position). They had already drafted a young PF (Hendricks) and had LM and KO. So, its not like anything has changed.
Lol at Collins, Sexton and Clarkson being available. Of course they are.
Problem is when even Utah don’t want you the market is probably limited.
Utah needs to get on the phone with Detroit. They need veteran players. Especially in the frontcourt. Detroit is gonna need some bad contracts to trade anyway. Something has to change with the Pistons.
Algunos jugadores le hechan ganas para agarrar un buen contrato,despues ya no.
Kings, Dallas or the Nets are the only places he fits. Utah should keep him and trade Sexton and two 2nds for Fultz from Orlando. Try to complete. Draft a young SG and SF next year. Or just fire sale the whole team except OA, Kessler, George and Hendricks
Compete*
Danny Boy sure has made a mess of things in a short time.
The team stinks, the players regress and the fans, as expected, start turning even on their star Markkanen. According to them he’s now “fool’s gold”, a mere floor spacer and at best a third option on a decent team, who won’t command more than a second round pick if traded immediately.
The problem, however, is that no one gets Markkanen the ball, not to mention initiating a play for him, even as simple as a PNR. In Utah’s recent game against the Knicks he had two touches in the fourth quarter, while their scrub guards played hero ball. That’s on Danny Boy and the coaches.
Previously Markkanen has made it clear that he wants to play for a contender, which the Jazz won’t be anytime soon. Extending him seems like a long shot on Utah’s part at this point.
Getting LaVine would probably cause Markkanen to request an immediate trade. Anyone who’s paid attention knows that the guy HATES playing with ball hog Zach back from their Chicago days. And why would the Jazz need another shot-chucking career loser with a low BB IQ and no defense anyway? They’ve got enough of those already.
While the Jazz might be inclined to string Markkanen along for their own purposes, the franchise’s realistic chances to hang on to him beyond his 2025 free agency are zero to none.
Hence Markkanen is most likely on the trading block, too. Unofficially of course. Because Danny Boy intends to avoid any signs of desperation that could compromise his asking price.