Exactly one year after the Bucks, Trail Blazers, and Suns completed a blockbuster trade involving Damian Lillard, Jrue Holiday, and Deandre Ayton, the Knicks and Timberwolves – with the help of the Hornets – were on the verge of finalizing a blockbuster of their own on Friday.
According to reports, Karl-Anthony Towns is headed to New York in exchange for a package that includes Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo, Keita Bates-Diop, and a protected first-round pick.
Our full story includes more details and analysis on the pending trade, but I want to focus here on what the deal will mean for the Knicks from a cap perspective in 2024/25.
Remember, the Knicks are already operating above the first tax apron and hard-capped themselves at the second apron in July by aggregating salaries in order to acquire Mikal Bridges from Brooklyn. A team that aggregates salaries in a trade isn’t permitted to surpass the second apron line of $188,931,000 for the rest of the 2024/25 league year.
Meanwhile, a club operating over the first apron can’t take back more salary than it sends out in a trade, which means the Knicks need to get to at least $49,205,800 in outgoing salary — that’s Towns’ cap hit for ’24/25.
So far, we know New York is sending Randle ($28,939,680), DiVincenzo ($11,445,000), and Bates-Diop ($2,654,644) to Minnesota. That works out to $43,039,324, meaning the Knicks need to add another $6,166,476 to the deal.
They’ll get about halfway there by signing-and-trading DaQuan Jeffries to Charlotte. His new contract will reportedly start in the neighborhood of $3MM, leaving the Knicks with another $3MM-ish to send out for matching purposes.
Bobby Marks of ESPN reported on Friday night (via Twitter) that Miles McBride isn’t being included in the Knicks’ package. The club also can’t add any more minimum-salary players to its package due to a rule that prevents teams from aggregating multiple minimum-salary contracts in bigger deals during the offseason. And it seems relatively safe to assume that key rotation players like Josh Hart and Mitchell Robinson aren’t being included or else that would have been reported already.
That leaves two options for the Knicks. They can get to the necessary salary-matching threshold by also sending out rookies Tyler Kolek ($2.09MM) and Pacome Dadiet ($1.81MM). But the preferred solution would be to sign-and-trade another player to the Hornets or another team, giving that player a salary in the $3MM range.
The Knicks still have cap holds on their books for Charlie Brown and Duane Washington, who both finished last season on two-way contracts with the team. Washington is playing for KK Partizan in Serbia, so Brown is the more logical sign-and-trade candidate.
Using his Non-Bird rights, the Knicks could give Brown a starting salary worth up to $2,685,229, which means Jeffries’ starting salary would need to be $3,481,247 in order for the club to reach the required outgoing salary total. In theory, that’s doable, since New York holds Jeffries’ Early Bird rights. However, base year compensation rules would apply to Jeffries in that scenario, meaning his full salary wouldn’t count for matching purposes.
In order to reach the matching threshold using Jeffries and Brown, the Knicks would have to bump Jeffries’ first-year salary all the way up to $6,962,494 — under BYC rules, his outgoing salary would count for 50% of that amount ($3,481,247).
But since Jeffries’ first-year salary was reported to be in the $3MM range, the plan may be to sign-and-trade him at that lower figure ($2,910,484 would work without triggering BYC rules) and add one more player to the package. Maybe it’ll be Kolek or Dadiet, or maybe the Knicks will figure out a way to extract Washington from his contract with Partizan in order to sign-and-trade him too. We’ll see.
The Hornets, meanwhile, are in position to take on Jeffries – and maybe Brown as well – without sending back any salary using their $8MM room exception. They would be the first team to take advantage of the new rules allowing teams to use certain exceptions (the non-taxpayer mid-level, the room, and the bi-annual) to acquire salary in a trade.
If we assume the trade is completed using Randle, DiVincenzo, Bates-Diop, and signed-and-traded players, the Knicks would be left with $185,351,521 in total salary for just 12 players. Their hard cap for the season is $188,931,000. That leaves just $3,579,479 in wiggle room, which is a bit of an issue.
The cap hit for any veteran free agent signing, including camp invitees like Marcus Morris, Landry Shamet, and Chuma Okeke, is $2,087,519. Rookies or players with just one year of experience can have smaller minimum-salary cap hits, but they still count for tax and apron purposes as $2,087,519 players. That “tax variance” rule is meant to prevent teams from passing over veteran free agents in favor of younger ones solely for financial reasons.
Carrying two minimum-salary free agents into the regular season would cost over $4MM for apron purposes, pushing the Knicks above their hard cap. So that won’t be possible unless the team makes another salary-shedding trade that would cost them a rotation player. There’s no indication that’s the plan.
The Knicks could start the season with just 13 players on standard contracts, but they’d only be allowed to do that for up to two weeks before being required to add a 14th man.
So what are their options for that 14th roster spot? Again, assuming they don’t make another cost-cutting trade, the only real possibility for the Knicks would be to sign or convert a former second-round pick to a standard contract. Since the tax variance rule only applies to free agents, a Knicks second-round pick who signs a minimum-salary deal would count as $1,157,153 for cap, tax, and apron purposes.
New York holds the draft rights to a ton of non-NBA players, but the most viable NBA options on that list, including Mathias Lessort and Rokas Jokubaitis, are already under contract with teams in other professional leagues.
That means the more likely path for the Knicks, as Bobby Marks of ESPN tweets, is to convert one of their current two-way players to a standard contract. Kevin McCullar and Ariel Hukporti both signed their two-way deals after being drafted by New York, so either player would be a candidate for a promotion. Jacob Toppin wouldn’t be, since he signed his two-way contract as a free agent, meaning the tax variance rule would apply to him.
Let’s say the Knicks complete the Towns trade as we outlined above, retain either Morris, Shamet, or Okeke to start the season, then promote McCullar or Hukporti to a standard contract 14 days into the season. In that scenario, the team’s salary would be right around $188.5MM for 14 players, giving them approximately $428K in wiggle room below their hard cap for the rest of the season.
The Knicks’ ability to make in-season moves, including adding a 15th man, would be severely limited in that scenario. But their roster would be legal, which is the primary concern at this point.
New York could generate slightly more breathing room below the second apron hard cap by including either Kolek or Dadiet in their package for Towns, then promoting both McCullar and Hukporti to the standard roster on minimum deals.
As was the case with the Bridges trade earlier this summer, early reporting has let us know the most significant pieces in this deal, but there are still some intriguing loose ends to be tied off in order to make it work.
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Don’t know that I love this for the Knicks as KAT hasn’t proven he can buy into a defensive role which is a Thibs must, and hard caps the team moving forward.
That said I guess, the Knicks needed a player who coupled play the 5 more than they needed Randle. Their roster will better line up to compete with the C’s as they’re already deep with wing defenders/secondary scorers, and now have a big that can take the Staps/ Horford advantage out of play.
greg1 , good analysis. I believe you will ultimately see the Knicks use KAT like the Wolves did with Gobert (and without Gobert), creating these these 2 lineups
STARTERS/BiGS
Robinson
KAT
OG
Bridges
Brunson
SMALL-BALL/5-OUT
Hart
KAT
OG
Bridges
Brunson
He’s actually been good on defense the last couple seasons. I guess we will see if he’s played better defensively because of the presence of Gobert or because he’s grown as a player.
Does BYC come into affect in trades like this where there’s not necessarily aggregation, but 100% salary-matching is required? Because in this instance, as Jeffries’ new salary would be > 120%, it counts as only 50% of that (or as his previous salary) for outgoing purposes…
Ooh, good catch. I believe they could re-sign him using his Non-Bird rights to avoid BYC rules, but that would mean his max salary would be $2,910,484, so it wouldn’t be quite enough to get there with just him and Brown. Let me take a closer look at this and update the post.
Does Randle’s trade kicker not count?
Just looked it up… it does not.
Maybe they’re using the MLE on someone not yet reported?
None of the teams involved in this have access to the midlevel. Apron teams don’t even get the taxpayer version and Charlotte operated below the cap and thus have only the room exception.
Not eligible to use that
It counts as incoming salary for the Wolves but not outgoing salary for the Knicks (complicating matters even further!).
@Luke Adams
Is it possible for GSW to trade Andrew Wiggins for Randle 1-1 if some money is involved to match the salaries?
@ Davey J
(Setting the on-court logic aside and just focusing on the math…)
It would depend in part on how much of his trade bonus Randle gets. If he doesn’t waive any of it, his cap hit will increase by $4MM+ and make it much trickier.
He also has some unlikely incentives that count toward the apron but not the cap. The Warriors would have to consider them for hard cap purposes, which is another complication.
As with this deal, it would probably require a third team to take on some salary from the Warriors.
Thanks Luke!
The “on-court logic” is that Wiggins and Kuminga play the same position and Wiggins helps space the Wolves better than Randle. GSW needs one last big who can be a game-changer – Randle fits the bill.
No, it counts as incoming salary for Minnesota but not outgoing for New York, even though New York is responsible for paying it.
So the Knicks are saying they are all in to win this year and not worried about 3 years down the line. Will the Hornets get draft picks out of these trades because why would they do a favor for the knicks?
Probably a second or two
@arc89 Wiggins for Randle is almost a salary match! Wiggs spaces the Wolves better and GSW need that game-changing big….
T-wolves would not take Wiggins back so why claim they would want him? They traded him for D’Lo just to get rid of him once. That will never happen.
Warriors cannot take back more. They’re barely 500K under the hard cap.
Defensively they will be fine. Mitchell and Precious will play alongside KAT for significant periods of time. But I think their starting lineup has Hart and OG as the forwards. Makes the most sense and then focus on defensive sub matchups.
KAT is so soft Charmin wants him for their commercials. Terrible trade for the knickerbockers financially, defensively, emotional, chemistry wise.
They can sign and trade me, if that will help them out.
I too would happily ride the NBA bench for a season for a million dollar salary lol
Why would a hard cap bother Knicks. They will gladly pay the tax to contend for next 5yrs.
As a Warriors fan who’s last 2 seasons were ruined by the hard cap: you don’t want that smoke. Any injury and you are screwed.
We got depth unlike Warriors …..
No you don’t. After next year you will be down to the starters and not much more. Bridges and Robinson will be gone the year after that. Just hope for lucky draft picks after the lottery and G league players that blossom. Warriors were handicap to sign players off the scrap heap for the last 3 years. Same will happen to Knicks.
We are not the Warriors. Go cry somewhere else.
You are right the warriors been winning and Knicks have not. You hope the knicks can take advantage of their 3 year window.
Al , no team, including the Knicks, can afford to be this far over the cap for FIVE years. The reason is that the “multiplier” on the repeater tax goes up dramatically every year. The NBA has created a scheme that restricts even the wealthiest teams.
For the Knicks, a very simplified example:
Year 1: tax is $85M
Year 2: tax is $200M
Year 3: tax is $325M
Year 4: tax is $550M
Etc
You “reset” the repeater schedule to $0 by going back under the cap. The Celtics are in Year 1, and it looks like the’ll reset after this year, like the Wolves have just done. The Warriors, who have $350M in revenue each year than the Knicks, reset after year 3.
Nobody expects Dolan to go to year 3. He’ll go to year 2, at the most.
I think this trade will make the wolves better. This is a good trade for the wolves. Everyone is talking about the knicks but this trade matches up the Wolves better!
Thec , you’re right that nobody seems to think the Wolves got better. Specifically, why do you think so?
Can Shamet be extended at $3M/year, and sent to Minnesota as part of the package, in order to reach the threshold ? He’s superfluous as the roster is currently constructed.
A team can only sign-and-trade a player that finished last season on its roster. Jeffries, Brown, and Washington are the only three possibilities left who fit that bill for New York — the others have signed NBA contracts elsewhere or are back under contract with the Knicks.
Actually now with Divincenzo gone they need Shamet’s shooting off the bench…
OK ……. not a KAT guy. Also not a big Randle guy. Randle did gain my respect here. He’s just too much of a drama queen. I think Randle has a monster yr away from NYC.
What I’m most impressed by. Is how KAT value has gone down. They wanted double this a yr ago. I can’t believe we didn’t give up more. So I’m pleased here. This was also a salary dump by Minny.
KAT is Dominican and from the area. I promise you. No one wants to win more than him now. He knows what we are building here. NYC knows and will let him know. Thibs is his guiding angel. He can make him into a top Center. KAT at his best is trouble for Embiid. IMO he can be more like Jokic. He’s got that kind of talent. KAT has never had a real PG. He’s got Jalen now. Contending in NY is fuel for any real baller. But a guy who grew up here. Knows how truly big that is. Playing in MSG. Contending for yrs. And having Thibs make your gm better. Can finally reach his peak. Knicks are loaded ……. Now they must prove it ……….
I think most would agree that Mike Conley is a true PG and he’s played with him the last two seasons.
He’d be a backup in NY ….
KAT absolutely makes the Knicks better… the bigger loss depth wise is Divincenzo, not Randle…. though Randle will help the wolves… without KAT wolves light on 3 pt shooting, Divincenzo will help there…
Randle is on a contract yr. He’s going to have a UuuUge yr.
Al , I’m curious how Knicks used Randle alongside Robinson and Hartenstein?
I ask because Rudy doesn’t work well with other bigs. Playing Gobert and KAT together really hurt KAT’s numbers. As a stretch 4, KAT has less value, but he can play that role.
How do you see Randle fitting in with the Wilves bigs?
Gobert worked well with Towns, I mean they made the Western Conference Finals. Towns is at the stage of his career where winning matters more than numbers. This trade had more to do with money than fit for the Wolves as they couldn’t have maintained this expensive of a roster.
Knicks are now better team than 76ers
4th option: Bridges
5th Option: Acquire PF
So it has to work….Divincenzo was blindsided. Randle had to go.