SEPTEMBER 26: The signing is official, according to RealGM’s transaction log.
SEPTEMBER 25: The Warriors and free agent forward Kevin Knox have agreed to a one-year deal, sources tell Shams Charania of The Athletic (Twitter link).
While Charania doesn’t specify the terms of the contract, Golden State is right up against a first-apron hard cap and can’t sign a player to a standard deal without a corresponding roster move, so it’s safe to assume Knox is inking a non-guaranteed camp contract that won’t count against the cap. It figures to include Exhibit 9 language and possible Exhibit 10 language too.
The ninth overall pick in the 2018 draft, Knox began last season with the Rip City Remix, Portland’s G League affiliate. He signed with the Pistons in early November and was in the NBA for three months before being sent to Utah at February’s trade deadline. The Jazz immediately waived him, and with no NBA opportunities immediately presenting themselves, the 25-year-old eventually reported back to the Remix.
For the season, Knox appeared in 31 games (11 starts) at the NBA level for Detroit, averaging 7.2 points and 2.4 rebounds in 18.1 minutes per contest. Those averages aren’t far off from the ones he has posted across 306 career outings for the Knicks, Hawks, Trail Blazers, and Pistons (7.4 PPG, 2.9 RPG, 18.0 MPG), though his field-goal percentage last season (46.2%) was well above his 39.2% career mark.
Knox suited up for Golden State’s Summer League team in July, playing in six total games in the Las Vegas and California Classic leagues. He averaged 16.0 PPG and 7.2 RPG on .471/.351/.792 shooting in those contests.
There’s technically a path for Knox to make the Warriors’ regular season roster if the team makes a trade or cuts either Lindy Waters or Gui Santos, both of whom are non-guaranteed contracts. However, recent reporting has indicated Golden State will likely hang onto Waters and Santos.
Knox isn’t eligible for a two-way contract and his G League rights are still held by Rip City, so unless the Santa Cruz Warriors trade for those returning rights or Golden State finds room for him on the standard NBA roster, the forward’s stay in the organization may only last a few weeks.
If he makes the team out of camp, I am going to *laugh*.
We both know that ain’t happening unless MDJ trades everyone for Giannis.
You really need to let go of this dream of Giannis coming to Golden State
Fans/media tried for a year+ to talk it just to existence. Even a year after the signing the fans can’t let it go…
Why? It’s all over twitter and instagram and this site is called “hoops rumors” – you need to respect the tone of this website first.
Twitter? My bad, I apologise for every counter I ever posted. Knox is a move of champions, enjoy
If I believed twitter then Curry is going to the Lakers. Reason the Giannis to warriors is not happening too.
His history of providing a team with consistent production is not good so I understand your comment. But there’s something there. Not sure how to unlock it but it’s in there somewhere. You know what’s crazy is that he just turned 25 recently. Seems like he’s been around 10 years.
“There’s something there”
Yes, there is, and it ain’t good.
Career PER of 9.3. 39 percent FG% and 34 percent from three.
He doesn’t pass either.
Gary , not quite 10 seasons, but this will be #7!
Statistically, he’s been consistently awful. No exceptions. But he keeps on making NBA rosters.
Obviously the NBA scouts agree with you. There’s something in there.
Well, he has put up 10 years’ worth of bricks Gary.
Kevin Knox has always intrigued me. I think he has scoring gifts and great size. Just hasn’t been able to put it together and supply a team with consistency.
I remember watching him in summer league in Vegas and the guy was a baller. He’s had quite a few chances let’s see what’s going on here, but clearly he is twice the player of some of these other dudes like Lester Quinones.
Maybe there’s a team with a coach that can spot something to tweak his approach or stroke or confidence or something.
Yeah, other than shooting , passing, and ballhandling he’s way better than Quinones.
I’m glad we can agree on something. But I think they’ve tried the Lester Quinones experiment for a couple of years and it’s time to move on to someone else.
I think he’s finally learned that his game needed hustle and sense of urgency. He relied so heavy on talent. He needed to mature IMO. But I did see a lot from him in small spurts with summer league playing time hard to come by.
He did look good in summer league but that is not saying much. I wonder if Lindsay is the guy that will not make the team. He is going to need to prove a lot.
Waters can shoot the rock. I’m hoping they can find a way to tap into his potential as an NBA player.
I agree with you about Waters, Gary, and I think the whole reason he is here is because GP2 is on his way out via trade. Podz, Waters and GP2 cant all fit, Podz will get most of the SG mins (while playing a SG/PG hybrid) and Buddy and Moody will get the rest.
Waters and GP2 simply don’t have any paths to like, any playing time right now. Makes more sense to move GP2 plus a pick for a similar-sized contract player who makes more sense on this roster (like, a C), Waters can stay and be in the development role with limited minutes, but Payton cannot.
Lindy Waters is on the team, book it. Waters, after 3 seasons at OKC, was acquired by trading our second round pick, which was several spots ahead of the pick we used on Quentin Post. We acquired Waters to fill a #13-#14 slot, as a proven, if low-upside, rotation player with an exceptional skill: shooting. He was available because OKC’s roster is loaded and they are flush with extra firsts.
Like Gary says, Waters is a *pure* shooter, made 43.5% on 80 attempts for OKC last year. And he’s a hard-nosed defender. After Steph and Hield, and maybe Podz, he’s the best 3 pt shooter on the roster.
OKC used Waters in special situations to space the floor. I suspect the Warriors will do the same.
How does this dude keep getting a chance? I mean I know warriors are known for getting the best out of players like the heat do but this dude ain’t Wiggins,he ain’t Nick Young. But we shall see…
He’s still only 24, all players under 30 deserve many chances to get right.
Waive Waters and sign Collins
Will you stop it with your Collins infatuation. He is heading to Santa Cruz.
Oh wow….LOL. I sincerely hope he makes the roster hahahahaha.
Why? It is probably nothing more than a camp deal. Nothing to get to excited about.
Apparently you’re wrong….enjoy
Curry
Green
Wiggins
Kumonga
Podz
Tjd
Moody
Hield
Anderson
Melton
Looney
Payton
Waters
Santos
14 on the active roster. 15th not allowed. Post and others get experience in Santa Cruz.
Feel free to disagree.
Wow how did he get lucky to be with GS lucky him. Waited all Summer and a good situation comes calling.
nny, Well it’s a pretty good camp to be a part of. He’s already tried everywhere else it seems lol. Maybe the coaching staff can tweak his game for the better and then another team will spot him and grab him after the Warriors cut him? He’s definitely too young to give it up and head to China.
Claude my personal guess is that Jackson Davis starts at center. I’m not sure who comes off the bench as a result, perhaps Wiggins or more likely Podski? I know they’re still working on a deal. Fingers crossed.
Gary, I was just listing the 14. It came out looking different than my text. It was one column of 14 players. No lineup guesses. But since you’ve mentioned “a deal”, who do you want gone? Any trade requires equal numbers of players going both ways.
Oh ok Claude, I thought you had starters then bench. Gone are Wiggins, Payton, Moody, Looney, and in that order and hopefully in some combination to bring in one better player. Thing is I don’t know who that one player is yet.
As I mentioned many times, hopefully a team that isn’t meeting expectations puts a guy on the block who has too many years and too much money to keep.
How about you, what are your thoughts?
> Gone are Wiggins, Payton, Moody, Looney, and in
> that order
100% agree
> and hopefully in some combination to bring in
> one better player.
100% agree
Well Gary, my thoughts. First of all, we both know that trading 4 regulars for 1star won’t happen. They have no $ to spend. So draft picks are necessary or Post, Waters, Spencer, etc get way more time. Second of all, you’ve seemed down on Payton/Wiggins. My prediction or maybe my expectation is Payton, crossing fingers, stays physically healthy. Plays 70ish games and is a major contributor. They were a 500 team when he didn’t play last year. 10 over 500 when he played. His play is for some reason minimalized by us. To me he is a great catalyst. Again,if, big IF, he stays healthy he HAS to stay. Wiggins may now be mentally healthy. No stress about his Dad who unfortunately passed. My prediction/expectation is that not only does he return to form…he has his best year since 22. So, long story, Payton and Wiggins should stay. Yes, that could be pie in the sky, but I feel pretty good about the upcoming season. At least for them. Of course, trade deadline availabilities may change my opinions. I do think that trading Moody, Looney, and picks might get something. Only one player would need to be added from the roster. Last thing Gary, for some reason I have concerns that Kuminga could regress. Why? Just a feeling. Kinda like my feelings about Payton/Wiggins PROgressing. Sorry for the length. BTW, regarding Post…let’s keep in mind Podz and TJD got their feet wet in Santa Cruz before excelling in SF.
I love it Claude thank you for your reply. You know I’ve always appreciated your Insight. You’ve been around a while and a Warriors fan even longer so I always enjoy reading what you write. No sugar coating just the truth and your opinion which is worth as much as anyone’s here.
You could be right on all your points. Warriors fans probably hope you are especially concerning Gary Payton and Andrew wiggins.
Payton was great when he was playing crucial minutes guarding the other team’s best scoring threat.
So sure it would be great those if two came back to life and provided what they did 3 or 4 years ago. My fingers crossed as well.
As far as JK I think he knows this is his contract year so he probably worked real hard in the offseason on his game. Shooting, handles, and the mental aspect of where to be and when to be there and learning from Draymond about help defense etc.
You are definitely way too kind. Unfortunately, much of what I say is arguably bulls**t. I always enjoy your comments. Is Aristotle new? I like his comments. Very rational and sensible.
Well you’ve always been very kind to me. Warriors fans tried and true. We’ve been through a lot and even when they struggle we’re behind them all the way.
Ya not sure about Ari. Brand new or username change?
Hi ClaudeRaymond,
Aristotle here and, yes, I’m new. Are you perhaps named after the French-Canadian relief pitcher on the original, ‘69 Expos?
I am enjoying your posts very much. I love Payton also, but I’m surprised you aren’t taking a longer view… wouldn’t you prefer to see those minutes go to Podz and, to the extent he’s played at 3, Kuminga and Wiggins? Also, I believe Melton was signed for $12M to do much of what Payton does. Melton can’t defend multiple positions like Payton, but his on-ball defense is elite. I expect to see Melton get more minutes than any other guard than Steph and Podz.
From reading all your posts, I’m more inclined than you to predict that this year’s edition will favor youth more than wins relative to past years. This is a transition year because they must stay under the cap. It’s all about developing Podz, Kuminga, and TJD…and, also, acquiring a difference maker.
More wild *ss opinions that come with my view of the world:
1. Like Gary, I believe the team wants to part with GP2 and Looney asap, using that combined $18M for salary matching. Those 2 guys know that this is their last year, and that they’re not part of the Warriors’ future…otherwise, why bring in Hield, Anderson, and Melton at $40M year?
2. Also like Gary, I believe the team has decided to move Wiggins because he’s excruciatingly inconsistent. (Unlike Gary) I believe they are all-in on Kuminga. They will give Wiggins an opportunity to establish his trade value at the beginning of this season. If he performs poorly like last year, he’ll go to the 9th spot in the rotation, and this time the move to Kuminga will be permanent. If Wiggins plays well enough to start, he will have enough value to be packaged. Wiggins is at the crossroads of his career.
3. Finally, unlike you, I do believe that 1 of more significant transactions involving the above players is imminent. The current roster construction reflects failure to make a trade this summer. Payton and Looney have expiring contracts, which facilitate trades, and Moody still has a bit of value. Wiggins has a $26M/yr deal, which is reasonable if he can play better than last year. Otherwise, the Warriors will find some way to eat the remainder of his contract, possibly by giving away an FRP.
Cheers
I like you guys
I think the starting 5 on opening night will be:
Green – Kuminga – Wiggins – Podziemski – Curry
But the top 5 MPG guys for this years’ NBA Finals title winner will be:
Jackson-Davis – Green – Kuminga – Moody – Curry
5 starters, 4 rotation, & 5 that play very little
Expect Moody to be traded
START:
Curry
Podz
Green
Kuminga
TJD
ROTATION
Melton
Wiggins
Hield
Anderson
UNHAPPY
Looney
Moody
Payton
DEEP BENCH
Waters
Santos
SANTA CRUZ
Post
Spencer
Beekman
Looney is looking more like a power forward than a center on how he lost weight and came to camp in great shape. There will be a lot of competition for minutes.
I dont understand why people hate Moody so much, he has a Kawhi profile and has done plenty of elite stuff in the NBA, including winning a ring. Here, what is wrong with any of these plays?
link to youtube.com
You’ll come aboard eventually Davey. He seemingly 80% out there. I’m sure he does the same in practice so any minutes he gets are gifts to him based on potential or let’s see what he can do. Maybe 80% is his 110%?
He jogs and doesn’t sprint. He watches and doesn’t box out. He’s great 1 on 1 because of his length and athleticism on defense, but when all the switches happen and he needs to cover the guy he’s supposed to, he’s nowhere close to that person and the defense breaks down.
He has no sense of urgency between the ears. He seems less like a guy who knows what’s happening, and more like a guy who is wondering, what happened?
You just have to watch him. There’s no straight, direct, purposeful cuts. He’s all about banana cuts and at 80% speed.
Gary , I didn’t know you were so down on Moody’s effort and team defense. I’ve always felt he plays hard (which, admittedly, has also led to bad fouls).
I agree that he struggled to find his man for a long time, but do you really believe it was for lack of urgency.
It’s that lack of dog in him. The lack of a Killer Instinct, the lack of wanting to be the best player on the floor, the lack of.., these 3 minutes count for everything. Stuff like that.
Heck, I’m a pickup baller and I think that stuff. I think I’m the best player on the floor. Get me the ball and get out of the way.
Moody has none of that in my opinion. You can argue otherwise and I’m all for it. This is a “show me” league and we are “show me” fans.
Perhaps he does have a sense of urgency. But his sense of urgency is 80% whereas the world’s sense of urgency is 110%.
The guys who become Superstars say things like this:
“I’m out there giving 150%, I can ask you to give 110%.” (Sammy Davis Jr to his band mates.)
I dont know Gary, that link I posted had some COLD plays on it.
You seem to be locked in on him, refusing to ever change your mind even if we do prove to you he can ball. Facial expressions? Come on man.
You could put together a highlight reel of you or me and we’d look like stars. I’m just going by watching Moody in games and where he is on the floor and how he reacts as Plays develop on both offense and defense.
I have not attended a Warriors practice recently but I’m sure he’s the same dude in drills as he is in games.
We’ll see how it goes this season. Hope the best for the man but I’m just not feeling it.
Gary , ok, that’s a complete picture of Moody! I respect your takes, but struggling with how we could be so apart on this one.
I’ll start with this: Moody hasn’t been given an opportunity. Through no fault of his, the team has always had at least 4 vets ahead of him on the depth chart. He was drafted at 18, and he was 21 last season. I thought he had some especially strong games toward the end of the season.
Moody was a leader in HS and college, and every scout for the 2021 draft rated his toughness and intangibles very highly. That is his rep.
I grant that Moody has often looked disappointed, almost depressed, the last 2 seasons… which is all on him. Maybe we’re perceiving that differently. I don’t see the lack of confidence that you do, so much as somebody that believes this situation is a set-up for failure.
BOY I AM WIPING THE FLOOR WITH YOU AT PICKUP BASKETBALL LMAO bro out here thinking he MJ or sum
Brabo I’m sure you’re right. But when I go out there I do you think that way. Whether it results in that, depends where I am and who’s there.
But if I see you I’ll make sure and bring a towel so I can wipe myself off the floor. Try not to step on me on the way back down to the other end lol.
You may prefer not to answer but may I ask what part of the country are you? I travel quite a bit and I’m familiar with all four corners and everywhere in between. You name the town and I’ve found THE pickup spot to run. I am mostly in Southern California including Riverside and San Diego and a little bit of LA here and there. Then I also spend a lot of time in Florida. Jacksonville Beach and the corridor from Tampa to Fort Myers. But Seattle at Green Lake or Boston in Somerville next to the ice rink. I’ve been there, run there, and had a lot of fun.
I don’t see Kerr using Looney as a 4 because we don’t have a complementary 5. Plus, we acquired Kyle Anderson partly because he defends bigs extremely well as a 4, while also fitting into our offense. Expect Anderson to play the 4 when TJD or Draymond is at the 5.
If we want to play 2 bigs at once, and not use Kuminga at the 4, these are our preferred combos:
1. TJD + Draymond
2. TJD + Anderson
3. Draymond + Anderson
In these combos, Looney would be the 5:
4. Looney + Draymond
5. Looney + Anderson
This is the only combo where Looney could be a 4:
6. TJD + Looney
I don’t see the likelihood of 6., unless Draymond and/or Anderson are in foul trouble or injured. TJD+Looney
Yes aristotle you’re absolutely right. You will no way at any time ever see Looney and Jackson Davis on the floor at the same time unless it’s in warm-ups. Good point.
Davey , I didn’t put Moody at #11 because I don’t believe in him, but because the acquisitions of Hield and Melton make it clear he’s not valued.
Moody is, literally, 5th on the depth chart at SG, behind Podz, Hield, Melton, and GP2. He’s 4th on the depth chart at SF behind Kuminga, Wiggins, and Anderson. Moody will play only if others are injured.
I doubt Moody is on the roster in 6 weeks because he’ll have little value by the trade deadline. Hopefully, he’s part of a many-for-one deal. More likely, he’s traded for a 2nd round pick or a veteran big man.
Trade Payton, Waters with a 2nd with the two draft rights to two guys (or Waters waived with salary waived) for only three options in total. I looked for veterans to start at C.
Option 1. Jonas Val on the Wizards
Option 2. Kelly Olynyk on the Raptors
Option 3. Rashaun Holmes on the Bullets
Then promote Beekman if he is decent then sign to two way contracts is Yuri Collins, John Butler and Post.
Spencer as the call up guy
PG. Curry
SG. Heild
SF. Wiggins (give confidence to unlike you did to Klay)
PF. Green
C . ? Jonas Val/ Kelly Olynyk/ Holmes / Drummond/? Anything or anyone taller than 6’10.
Podz needs to be on the bench or he will ruin all of the chemistry
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not sure why but I’m getting that “network error” message. To be continued…
THATS IT, GIVE THEM THE LARRY O
Lol….just signed with warriors mate. He’s an all star this season.
Nrg82, Kevin Knox an All Star? I highly doubt that. He’s lucky to make the team if they can unlock his potential that everybody’s been looking for the last 7 years.
Brabo I highly doubt the Warriors win the championship this year. It would be an accomplishment to win one round in the playoffs lol.
Trade Payton, Waters with a 2nd with the two draft rights to two guys (or Waters waived with salary waived) for only three options in total. I looked for veterans to start at C.
Option 1. Jonas Val on the Wizards
Option 2. Kelly Olynyk on the Raptors
Option 3. Rashaun Holmes on the Bullets
Or make a trade for Drummond. Just need a veteran C