The Warriors and Suns began “secretly” talking about the possibility of a Kevin Durant trade early last week, according to Ramona Shelburne and Brian Windhorst of ESPN, who say that the star forward and his longtime manager and agent Rich Kleiman didn’t learn about those discussions until the two teams played one another last Friday.
By Saturday, the two teams were far enough along in negotiations that Durant and Stephen Curry touched base to talk about the idea. Shelburne and Windhorst hear from sources that Durant told Curry a reunion with the Warriors “didn’t feel right” and that this “wasn’t the time” for them to team up again.
While the Warriors were discouraged by Durant’s stance, they didn’t give up on making a deal at that point, hoping that Durant might change his tune once he learned how far down the road Phoenix had gotten in those discussions without informing him, per ESPN.
The Suns have internally conceded that it was a mistake not to loop Durant into the process earlier, Shelburne and Windhorst say. The former MVP has been described as “blindsided” by being so heavily involved in trade rumors this week after having expressed a desire to stay in Phoenix.
“We should’ve gone through (Kleiman),” a team source told ESPN.
As Shams Charania reported earlier today, the Warriors, Suns, and Heat discussed a potential multi-team trade that would’ve sent both Jimmy Butler and Jonathan Kuminga to Phoenix, with Durant going to Golden State. Shelburne and Windhorst provide more details on those conversations, reporting that the Wizards were involved as well, as we speculated on Wednesday.
The four teams were negotiating a trade that would have looked like this, according to ESPN:
- Durant to Golden State.
- Butler, Kuminga, Jonas Valanciunas, two first-round picks (from the Warriors), two second-round picks (one each from Miami and Golden State), and pick swaps to Phoenix.
- Andrew Wiggins, Dennis Schröder, Kyle Anderson, and the Cavaliers’ 2025 first-round pick (via Phoenix) to Miami.
There are some missing details there — among them, Jusuf Nurkic would’ve been involved and would’ve gone to the Wizards, who presumably would’ve sought at least a first-rounder from the Suns as a sweetener to take on that contract.
While it sounds like there was some momentum in those negotiations, the Heat ultimately weren’t sold on the deal. They sought the Warriors’ 2025 first-round pick rather than Cleveland’s, according to Shelburne and Windhorst, who say that Golden State also had some reservations about the Suns’ steep asking price for Durant.
With Durant standing firm on his stance that he had no desire to go to Golden State, the talks fell apart.
After those discussions ended, there was a window for the Heat to potentially acquire Durant in a trade that would send Butler to Phoenix. Durant would have been more open to playing in Miami than Golden State, sources tell ESPN, and the Suns and Heat traded “visions” of what a deal might look like, according to Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald.
However, the Suns were seeking a massive haul for Durant that included “a combination of talented young players and draft picks,” Jackson writes. According to both ESPN and the Herald, the Heat considered the price too steep and backed out, pivoting to a Butler deal with the Warriors that cut out Phoenix altogether.
The Suns were “deflated” by the outcome, according to Shelburne and Windhorst, who say that there were several times during the weeks leading up to Thursday’s deadline that Phoenix thought there might be a path to a Butler deal involving Bradley Beal.
However, sources tell ESPN that the Hawks and Wizards were believed to be the only teams considering taking on Beal, and it’s unclear whether he would’ve waived his no-trade clause for either team. The Suns reportedly never got close enough to a deal to approach Beal about it, eventually pivoting to exploring a Durant scenario without first informing the star forward.
As Windhorst noted on the latest Hoop Collective podcast, we’ll find out this coming summer whether those Suns trade talks involving Durant will sour him on the idea of remaining in Phoenix beyond this season.
“Durant told Curry a reunion with the Warriors “didn’t feel right” and that this “wasn’t the time” for them to team up again.”
Yup, the “time” will be when they get rid of Kerr, until then, no KD.
Fire Steve Kerr = KD will be back asap.
And that accomplishes what? An 8 seed in exchange for firing one of the best coaches in history. Genius
1x coach of the year = “best coaches in history” = you dont know ball or are coping
watch any warriors game, these rotations are absurdly idiotic, you cant argue the results are awful too
Steve Kerr hasn’t even gotten Coach of the Year votes since 2017. If you think in 2025 he isn’t completely washed, low energy, out of ideas aside from playing 6’4″ or shorter guys at the 1-2-3-4 spots in his idiotic small ball rotations that don’t work. No other coach in recent history has been allowed to be this bad for this long with a team that is built to contend that everyone agrees is a contender in the preseason. It’s him. It’s not any player.
Phil Jackson, 11x NBA champion, won NBA Coach of the Year 1 time as well. You don’t know ball. FOH
Good call on Phil Jackson, he was overrated and carried by legends too. You dont know ball! Steph > Kerr. MJ and Kobe > Phil.
If Kerr was good at his job, GSW would have finished top 4 the last 3 years. Instead he goes small ball and plays entire lineups of guys under 6’4″, who get creamed.
Now do Bruce Bochy.
@Davey
you mean get rid of Draymond. He was always the problem.
I was gonna say that… lol
Kerr ain’t the problem at all for Durant…
Yeah kerr has coached Durant really well and coached him again with team USA
The problem is draymond because ever since the warriors lost a game to the clippers in 2018 that’s when dray and KD started to hate each other
I do believe Durant when he says that it wasn’t the right time to go back, because he could wait for a different offer in the off-season where draymond could be sent out (he’s not untouchable like curry)
4 rings says you are wrong
Warriors owners ego has gotten so big. He wants to win so badly he would give away the warriors future for a slight chance of a championship. For some reason he worships Durant. Durant would only make the warriors chance at the 6th seed but without a bench they would struggle. That was one terrible trade offer for Durant. The Suns would have made out like bandits in that trade.
Fair trade formula
Durant = Butler + Kuminga
No pick at all
I feel like Lacob would rather have KD than Curry
Still a brighter future for the Warriors than with Butler…
Phoenix wanted Jimmy over KD. What does that tell you?
Golden State, Brooklyn, now Phoenix. When you can’t make it work wherever you go, maybe you are the problem. KD is a truly great player, a HOFer, but it seems like he doesn’t know how to coexist in a team dynamic. His only rings are going to be with the two he earned with the dubs, and that’s too bad because he could have had more. Blame Dray and Kerr, blame Kyrie and Nash, blame whoever you can in PHX but KD is the common denominator in all of these situations.
But he did make it work at GSW? He won 2 titles and made 3 finals in 3 years. He didn’t stay with GSW because he thinks Kerr is a bad coach, because he is.
@Davey
that’s you using your own boss. clearly things went south when Drsy called him a beach and said they didn’t need him. Not sure why anyone would want to back to that. it’s obvious
If you watched the games, or even looked at KDs career stats, you will see his MPG dip on GSW, that’s Kerr’s style, he never lets anyone go over 35 MPG unless its Steph or its OT. Sure they blew out everyone, but Kerr still stuck to his idiotic policy even in other circumstances. KD wants to play 35-40 MPG. Kerr will never let that happen because he has to use 9000 rotations that dont work every game.
@JBS
You fail to read the situation. KD didn’t tell them to lock so much of the cap space into their 3rd option and it’s not his place to make it all work. You can win with just a big 3. You need a bench and the ability to keep the other team from scoring. The Suns prefer to keep KD and move Beal. The whole idea of acquiring Butler was to match him with KD and Booker. Once getting rid of Beal was an impossibility they thought about moving KD and enigma knowing he was their best asset. Trading KD wasn’t their desire at first, and I don’t think it’s fair to blame him.
Did it “work” in Brooklyn? Is it “working” in Phoenix? KD couldn’t stand not being the alpha in GS. He clearly intends to lead the teams he’s on, and his leadership has led to two messed up teams: Brooklyn and Phoenix. He definitely played a role in assembling that mess In Brooklyn, and the Sun’s FO talked to him before signing Beal. I don’t know if it’s all KD, but gotta look in the mirror at a certain point. If things went south in LA, we’d all blame Bron. KD shares in this mess for sure.
The Suns didn’t sign Beal, they traded for him. And they likely would have had a better team if they had just kept Paul, Ayton and Camara. Those 3 guys with Durant and Booker is a better starting lineup then they have had since.
Durant trade talk = yawn. Teams thinking they will somehow get a different result than the Nets or Suns
All off season will be who gets to trade for KD. I already feel tired thinking of it.
Warriors missed out big time…
KD isn’t what he was but he is a constant threat…
General Soreness takes a lot of games off even when he is playing…
General soreness has a new contract so the joy is back. Now he goes to work. You have to understand a man’s sweet spot and for Jimmy it’s his wallet.
How did the Warriors miss out big time if KD doesn’t want to go there?
KD must get out of PHX, the team signed a contract with him and decided not to respect the contract and not even asking him first if he wanted to be traded, I mean how low can a team get!
KD get out of there asap!
That’s just part of the business they’re in.
El Don Always Wrong is from a different planet.
How does trading a guy in professional sports not honoring the contract? I think players are actually employees of the league, not necessarily the team they’re playing for. It’s one big giant employer and guys can be shuffled around as part of the deal.
Saying that’s not honoring the contract is just ignorant once again from Always Wrong.
The way I see it, is that the issue really comes down to Draymond. He did a lot of great things, but his passion , mixes with wgi both benefited and really hurt the dubs in the later part of the dubs dynasty. Draymond became the motor, enforcer etc of the dubs. It git out of control .
Yes they win with him at the beginning. But in the end Dubs lose MUCH more.
Dubs lost 1 maybe 2 rings more because of him.
KD and Poole lost because of him.
Klay was lost in part of his contract.
Then there the stup*ditbod Dumbleavy and Lacob to let Klay walk for a few extra million . Klay became unhappy he was not reaeds like Draymond . Bad bad choice. klay is doing good in Dallas.
Butler is becuaebid draymond indirectly. So now Dubs did t pay Klay a few mil more . But paid butler 60per on an extension. WTH!! Plus we ga e away Wiggs and the bench
Steve Kerr is nit a great coach, but happen to be here atbthe right time. Cant blame him. The team was self coached because Ll got along and played their role.
Fast forward –
Wrong GM
Owner making bad decisions
Kerr is not bad . But definite far from a great coach
Still no decent Big ..
As a dubs fan , all my life I simply wanted to see a champion ship won. Steph, Klay, draymond and team ga subs more than we could imagine.
It’s a shame ownership didn’t have the balls and knowledge to keep this going a bit more . No doubt if properly managed it could have gone a few more years .letting Steph, Klay and draymond ride off into the sunset as the best trio in nba history .
Dumb mistakes and management
So I say let Steph go to a team he can finish with a shot at a chip!!
You’re not the loyal dubs fan you say you are if you want to trade away Steph Curry because the Warriors let Klay Thompson walk.
That makes zero sense.., you criticize the one move so you suggest the second? Klay needed to go. He shot himself out of the lineup and off the team. His one track mind Went 2-13 one too many times.
Warriors aren’t going to pay $20 million a year for that. They can sign hot and cold Buddy for half that price and bring in DeAndre Melton for the same money combined.
What actually took balls and courage is saying no to Klay instead of caving to the pressure of The big three and loyalty. Bob Meyers may have done that. But Dunleavy doesn’t have that emotional attachment and can make the best decisions for the team.
Now they go to war with the new big three. There’s a little more defense involved than what Klay provides at 35 and two major leg injuries.
I think everything worked out just great. You live in the hood of the western conference and You brought in a hungry Doberman and sent out a family labrador in Wiggins.
This answers my highly confused question about why the Heat didn’t land Durant…. all the reports made it sound like Durant was being moved so they could land Butler.. actually it was a billion times more involved it seems. Makes a lot more sense if they were gonna move Durant and get back Val and Kuminga on top of that…. seemed very simple to just swap jimmy for durant if that was the suns end goal
I did write this in our first story discussing the possibility of a deal centered around Durant-for-Butler:
“Presumably, if the Suns were to trade Durant in a Butler deal, they’d also be able to extract multiple other assets from the Warriors (or whichever team landed Durant), whereas a Beal-for-Butler trade would require Phoenix to be the team adding several extra assets to get it done.”
jeremy, I explained this to you the other day. It’s not Jimmy for Durant.
Miami wanted a first round pick for Butler and Phoenix wanted more assets for Durant. That’s why the Warriors were involved.
Miami gets their pick and in trading Durant to Golden State Phoenix would receive three or four guys they could plug-in and have a pretty formidable Squad moving forward.
Phoenix would have Jimmy plus Draymond Green and maybe Kuminga. But since Durant did not want to be moved, and they couldn’t move Bradley Beal, the suns are where they are. No Butler.
Warrior swooped in on the blue light special and snapped him up at a bargain price of Andrew Wiggins and a first round pick. Sometimes you’re good and sometimes you’re lucky lol
actually no.. you made vague comments about draft picks.. insinuating miami turned down the idea of durant because they wanted picks… that’s not what happened at all according to this article.
Read the article again. Phoenix wanted “draft picks” for Durant. That’s what it says. How could you miss it and say I didn’t read the article properly?
You didn’t read the article properly.
Then there’s the common knowledge from other articles that Miami wanted a first round pick if they were going to trade away Jimmy Butler.
The EVIDENCE is in what they RECEIVED in the actual deal that LITERALLY happened. “A first round pick.”
This has all been explained to you three times now.
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