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Community Shootaround: 2024/25 NBA Predictions

The 2024/25 NBA season tipped off on Tuesday night, with the defending-champion Celtics opening the season in impressive fashion by knocking down a record-tying 29 three-pointers en route to a blowout win over the new-look Knicks.

While teams like the Knicks and the Sixers, who are incorporating new stars, will need some time to jell and could become greater threats to Boston later in the season, the Celtics’ performance on Tuesday was a convincing reminder of why they’re considered a good bet to become the first NBA champion to go back-to-back since Golden State in 2017 and 2018. The Bucks, Cavaliers, Pacers, Magic, and Heat are among the other clubs hoping to give the C’s a run for their money in 2024/25.

Over in the Western Conference, the Thunder are widely considered the favorites to finish the season with the best record after claiming the No. 1 seed in 2023/24 and then upgrading the roster by adding Isaiah Hartenstein and Alex Caruso over the summer. But the growth of young teams isn’t always linear and Oklahoma City will face plenty of competition in a stacked Western Conference.

The last two teams to win the West – the Nuggets and Mavericks – should be among the conference’s top teams again in ’24/25. The Timberwolves made the Western Conference Finals in the spring and appear poised to contend again despite an opening-night loss. The Lakers, Suns, and Warriors will be leaning heavily on older stars, but could certainly make some noise if things break right. The Grizzlies won 50-plus games for two consecutive years before being hit hard by injuries last season; they’re hoping to bounce back. And longer-shot contenders like the Pelicans, Kings, and Rockets are all determined to take a step forward this season too.

In terms of award races, will voter fatigue work against three-time Most Valuable Player Nikola Jokic and four-time Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert? If so, it could open the door for a first-time winner for each award, with Luka Doncic and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander among the top MVP candidates and Victor Wembanyama considered the frontrunner for DPOY.

The Rookie of the Year field is an interesting one, with this year’s No. 1 pick (Zaccharie Risacher) not expected to make the same sort of immediate impact that Wembanyama did last season. Risacher is still a Rookie of the Year contender, but the favorite may be Zach Edey, given the significant role he’s expected to play for a Grizzlies team without a ton of depth at center.

Oddsmakers have pegged Wembanyama as the frontrunner for Most Improved Player in addition to making him the DPOY favorite, but there’s no shortage of breakout candidates around the league — Jalen Williams, Jalen Johnson, Josh Giddey, Jonathan Kuminga, Franz Wagner, and Cade Cunningham are among the Most Improved Player picks that bettors have favored this fall.

Last year’s top two finishers in Sixth Man of the Year voting – Naz Reid and Malik Monk – are primed to contend for that award again, though Reid isn’t the Timberwolves’ only potential candidate, as Donte DiVincenzo could be in the mix too. Nuggets guard Russell Westbrook and Pelicans wing Trey Murphy are a couple more possibilities I have my eye on, while Pacers swingman Bennedict Mathurin and Knicks guard Miles McBride are among those ranked highly by oddsmakers.

We want to know what you think. Are you predicting a Celtics repeat or do you expect another team to win the 2025 title? What team are you taking to come out of the West? Who are your picks for this year’s major awards? Who will be the biggest star to change teams at the trade deadline?

Do you have any other bold predictions to share for the upcoming season? Head to the comment section below to weigh in!

2024 NBA Rookie Scale Extension Recap

The NBA’s annual deadline for rookie scale contract extensions passed on Monday, officially bringing the extension period for 2021 first-round picks to an end.

There was some speculation that there may be a downturn in rookie scale extensions this year, given the lack of projected cap room around the NBA in 2025. However, that turned out not to be the case, as 11 eligible players signed new contracts this year.

We’ve seen a noticeable uptick in rookie scale extensions in recent years, with at least 10 such deals completed in each of the last five offseasons. Prior to 2020, the last time as many as 10 rookie scale extensions were signed in a single league year was back in 2006, when players like LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh were signing their second NBA contracts.

Since 2020, however, the total rookie scale extensions by year has been as follows:


Here’s a breakdown of the 11 rookie scale extensions signed before this year’s deadline, sorted by total value. In cases where we haven’t yet seen the official contract terms for the extension, we’re basing our figures on the latest reports and will update these numbers as necessary. These deals will go into effect beginning in 2025/26.

Note: Projected values for maximum-salary extensions are based on a 10% annual salary cap increase in 2025. If the cap doesn’t increase by that much, those max extensions won’t be worth as much, since they’re based on a percentage of the cap.

  • Scottie Barnes (Raptors): Five years, maximum salary (story). Projected value of $224,238,150. Projected value can increase to $269,085,780 if Barnes meets Rose Rule performance criteria. Includes 15% trade kicker.
  • Cade Cunningham (Pistons): Five years, maximum salary (story). Projected value of $224,238,150. Projected value can increase to $269,085,780 if Cunningham meets Rose Rule performance criteria.
  • Evan Mobley (Cavaliers): Five years, maximum salary (story). Projected value of $224,238,150. Projected value can increase to $246,661,965 or $269,085,780 if Mobley meets Rose Rule performance criteria. Includes 15% trade kicker.
  • Franz Wagner (Magic): Five years, maximum salary (story). Projected value of $224,238,150. Projected value can increase to $246,661,965 or $269,085,780 if Wagner meets Rose Rule performance criteria.
  • Alperen Sengun (Rockets): Five years, $185,000,000 (story). Includes fifth-year player option.
  • Jalen Suggs (Magic): Five years, $150,500,000 (story).
  • Jalen Johnson (Hawks): Five years, $150,000,000 (story).
  • Trey Murphy (Pelicans): Four years, $112,000,000 (story).
  • Jalen Green (Rockets): Three years, $105,333,333 (story). Includes third-year player option and 10% trade kicker.
  • Corey Kispert (Wizards): Four years, $54,050,000 (story). Includes fourth-year team option.
  • Moses Moody (Warriors): Three years, $37,500,000 (story). Includes $1,500,000 in incentives.

As is typically the case, the maximum-salary deals were completed relatively early in the offseason, with Barnes, Cunningham, and Wagner all signed by July 10 and Mobley’s deal coming a couple weeks later.

While I’m not necessarily surprised that those four players got max extensions, it’s worth noting that their career résumés are a little lighter than what we typically see from that group of maximum-salary players. Barnes is the only one of the four who has earned an All-Star nod. By comparison, Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Haliburton, and LaMelo Ball had each made an All-Star team before signing their max extensions a year ago.

That’s not to say that this year’s maximum-salary rookie scale extensions are ill-advised investments, but they’re certainly big bets on continued growth from those four players.

No rookie scale extension agreements were reached between July 22 – when Mobley signed his contract with the Cavs – and October 19, but we got a flurry of action in the final 24 hours before Monday’s deadline, with Warriors guard Moses Moody striking a deal on Sunday night and six more players following suit on Monday.

Moody’s three-year, $39MM deal with Golden State was the smallest of 2024’s rookie scale extensions in terms of both overall money and average annual value, but it’s one of the more intriguing deals of the year. Securing $39MM in guaranteed money is a big win for a player who has never averaged more than 17.5 minutes per game or made more than 11 starts in a season, but Moody still has enough upside that the contract could turn into a steal for the Warriors.

Kispert got the only other rookie scale extension worth less than $100MM overall, with his new four-year deal coming in a little under the non-taxpayer mid-level exception. That’s a fair price for a player who can spread the floor like Kispert, and it could look more team-friendly if he continues to expand his offensive game and/or improves defensively.

I wasn’t necessarily expecting the Rockets to extend Sengun and Green at this time, since they could have put themselves in position to be a cap-space team in 2025 by not locking up that duo quite yet.

That option is likely off the table now, but that’s OK — Houston did well to get Sengun for nearly $40MM below his projected max, and the deal with Green is a unique one that could be a win-win. The former No. 2 overall pick gets a nine-figure payday while the Rockets get another two or three years to observe his growth and assess whether he’s worth a more lucrative longer-term commitment.

Reporting leading up to Monday’s deadline indicated that Suggs and Johnson were among the players seeking $30MM+ annual salaries on rookie scale extensions. Both players got there, just barely, on new five-year contracts with their respective Southeast clubs. Already an All-Defensive player, Suggs is poised to take on more offensive responsibilities in 2024/25 and beyond. If he handles that increased offensive role well, he should deliver a solid return on investment for the Magic.

The Johnson deal could be viewed as a risky bet on a relatively small sample, since the forward had played an extremely limited role for the Hawks in his first two seasons before breaking out in an injury-shortened year in 2023/24. But there’s a path to stardom for Johnson, and if he continues along that path, that $30MM annual salary will eventually look like a bargain for Atlanta.

Finally, Murphy locked in a new deal at $28MM per year with the Pelicans, who have now secured Zion Williamson, Dejounte Murray, Herbert Jones, and Murphy on long-term contracts. Murphy’s extension suggests that either Brandon Ingram or CJ McCollum might be playing for a new team within a year or two, since the cost-conscious Pels would have to go well into luxury tax territory to hang onto both veterans beyond 2025.


A total of 24 players entered the offseason eligible for rookie scale extensions, so almost half the players in that group signed them. That leaves 13 players who didn’t reach agreements and will be entering contract years.

Here’s that list of those players, who are now eligible to become restricted free agents during the 2025 offseason, assuming they finish out their current contracts:

Kuminga is the most noteworthy extension candidate not to sign a new deal before Monday’s deadline. He and the Warriors reportedly had discussions throughout the offseason but didn’t ultimately gain serious traction toward an agreement.

Golden State’s offer was rumored to be in the neighborhood of $30MM per year, whereas a maximum-salary extension for Kuminga would have been worth in the $43-45MM range. He’ll bet on himself this season in hopes of securing a huge payday in restricted free agency.

Giddey and Thomas are among the other notable extension candidates who didn’t get new deals and could be targets for lucrative offer sheets in July of 2025. I had viewed players like Aldama, Grimes, Jackson, and Mann as potential candidates for modest extensions, but they’ll have to prove their worth this season too.

A few players in this group – like Duarte, Springer, and Williams – never looked like serious extension candidates and will need to make their case this season that they’re worthy of qualifying offers in 2025 free agency.


Finally, it’s worth mentioning that there were six players selected in the first round of the 2021 draft who weren’t eligible at all for rookie scale extensions entering this offseason, for various reasons. Those players are as follows:

Of these six players, only Johnson is currently on a standard NBA contract — he has a non-guaranteed deal with the Nets. Christopher (Heat) and Jones (Clippers) are on two-way contracts, while Garuba is playing in Spain for Real Madrid. Bouknight and Primo aren’t on a roster and may open the season in the G League.

Contract, Roster Deadlines Loom For NBA Teams

We’re one day away from the start of the NBA’s 2024/25 regular season, making Monday the last day of the 2024 offseason. Today serves as the deadline for a number of contract- and roster-related decisions around the league. Here are the most important ones:


Rookie Scale Extensions

A total of 24 players entered the offseason eligible for rookie scale extensions.

Four of those players – Scottie Barnes, Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley, and Franz Wagner – have already signed new deals, and a fifth (Moses Moody) has agreed to an extension that will be officially completed today.

That leaves the following 19 players eligible to sign rookie scale extensions on Monday:

The majority of these guys won’t sign new deals until the 2025 offseason, when they’re eligible for restricted free agency. But it would be a surprise if at least a couple more players from this list don’t finalize rookie scale extensions today.

Giddey, Green, Johnson, Kuminga, Murphy, Sengun, and Suggs are among the notable names in this group, but finding a price point that works for them and their respective teams may be a challenge. Some of the role players on this list who are willing to settle for more modest deals might also agree to terms today — Grimes is said to be a prime candidate for a new deal, for instance.

The deadline for rookie scale extensions is at 5:00 pm Central time.


Certain Veteran Contract Extensions

A veteran player who signed his current contract at least two years ago (or three years ago if it was a five-year deal) is eligible to sign an extension. That means many veterans around the NBA are eligible to sign contract extensions today, but that number will significantly drop as of tomorrow.

Once the regular season begins, only veterans in the final year of their contracts can sign extensions — a player who has multiple years remaining is no longer extension-eligible until the following offseason.

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Let’s use the Hawks as an example. Trae Young, Clint Capela, Larry Nance Jr., and Garrison Mathews are all eligible for veteran extensions right now, but Capela, Nance, and Mathews are on expiring deals, whereas Young is not. That means Capela, Nance, and Mathews will be able to sign extensions anytime between now and June 30, 2025, but Young’s eligibility window will close after Monday and won’t reopen until next July.

An extension-eligible veteran who has a player option for 2025/26 could still sign a new deal later in the ’24/25 league year, but he’d have to eliminate that option to do so. Picking up the option would make him ineligible to complete an extension between Tuesday and the start of the ’25/26 league year, since it would turn his contract into a multiyear deal, not an expiring one.

With the help of information from Bobby Marks of ESPN (Insider link), here are the 24 players who have a Monday deadline to sign a veteran extension if they want to lock in a new deal before next July:

A few of these players who are prime candidates for extensions aren’t expected to sign this year because they would qualify for more years and more money if they wait until next offseason.

That group includes Bridges, who continues to face extend-and-trade limitations due to his recent move to the Knicks, and Fox, who would become eligible for a super-max (Designated Veteran) extension if he makes an All-NBA team in 2025. It also includes Doncic and Gilgeous-Alexander, who have already met the performance criteria for super-max deals but won’t have enough years of service to sign them until after the 2024/25 season.

The deadline for veteran extensions for players on non-expiring contracts is at 10:59 pm CT tonight.


Regular Season Rosters

Nearly every NBA team finalized its roster cuts on Saturday for financial reasons, as we explained over the weekend. However, today is the official deadline to reduce offseason rosters to the regular season limit of 15 players on standard contracts (plus three on two-way contracts).

While there will could very well be some additional roster shuffling today as teams tweak their back-end roster spots or fill two-way openings, only one team – the Timberwolves – absolutely has to make a move, as we detailed on Sunday. Minnesota’s transaction appears likely to involve Keita Bates-Diop, though that’s not set in stone yet.

That roster move is due by 4:00 pm CT.


The final day of the offseason is also the last day for teams to convert Exhibit 10 contracts into two-way deals, but there are no candidates left after Kai Jones, Quincy Olivari, Liam Robbins, Yuki Kawamura, Mac McClung, Jamison Battle, Riley Minix, Tyrese Martin, E.J. Liddell, and Jazian Gortman were all converted on either Friday or Saturday.

The only player still on an Exhibit 10 deal is Bulls guard Talen Horton-Tucker, and he has too many years of NBA service to qualify for a two-way. The expectation is that Horton-Tucker will make Chicago’s standard opening night roster, meaning his Exhibit 10 contract will turn into a one-year, non-guaranteed deal and will begin counting against the salary cap.

Finally, Monday is the last day for a free agent to be signed-and-traded during the 2024/25 league year. However, there have been no indications that any sign-and-trades are in the works.

Checking In On Roster Situations Around The NBA

As expected, the majority of the NBA teams made their roster cuts on Saturday and didn’t wait until Monday’s deadline to set their regular season rosters.

Completing those moves on Saturday will ensure the players on non-guaranteed contracts clear waivers on Monday, before the regular season begins. If a team had waited until Monday to waive a player on a non-guaranteed deal, he wouldn’t clear waivers until Wednesday, and the team would be on the hook for two days’ worth of his salary.

After Saturday’s flurry of roster moves, here’s where things stand around the NBA…


Teams whose rosters are within the regular season limits

Of the NBA’s 30 teams, 29 have rosters that comply with the league’s regular season roster limits, which state that clubs can’t carry more than 15 players on standard contracts or three on two-way contracts.

The following 14 teams are right at the limit, carrying 15 players on standard contracts and three on two-ways:

  • Atlanta Hawks
  • Brooklyn Nets
  • Chicago Bulls
  • Dallas Mavericks
  • Denver Nuggets
  • Los Angeles Clippers
  • Los Angeles Lakers
  • Milwaukee Bucks
  • Oklahoma City Thunder
  • Portland Trail Blazers
  • San Antonio Spurs
  • Toronto Raptors
  • Utah Jazz
  • Washington Wizards

Just because these rosters look ready for the regular season doesn’t mean they’re fully locked in. It wouldn’t be be a surprise if one or more of these teams makes a minor tweak before Monday’s regular season roster deadline. That could be as simple as swapping out one two-way player for another.

The following 11 teams are carrying 14 players on standard contracts and three on two-ways:

  • Boston Celtics
  • Cleveland Cavaliers
  • Golden State Warriors
  • Houston Rockets
  • Indiana Pacers
  • Memphis Grizzlies
  • Miami Heat
  • New Orleans Pelicans
  • Philadelphia 76ers
  • Phoenix Suns
  • Sacramento Kings

Several of these teams are in luxury tax territory or have minimal flexibility below the tax line, so they’ll open the season with an open roster spot to either keep their projected tax bill in check or maintain some financial flexibility. That’s not the case for all of them though. The Rockets are well clear of the tax, for instance, and could comfortably make a roster addition if they want to.

Four more teams are within the regular season limits. Those teams are as follows:

  • Charlotte Hornets: 15 players on standard contracts and two on two-way deals.
  • Detroit Pistons: 14 players on standard contracts and one on a two-way deal.
  • New York Knicks: 12 players on standard contracts and three on two-way deals.
  • Orlando Magic: 15 players on standard contracts and two on two-way deals.

The Hornets, Pistons, and Magic will likely fill their open two-way slots sooner rather than later. In fact, Detroit already has its eye on a pair of players – Alondes Williams and Cole Swider – for its openings. There are no cap savings generated by keeping a two-way slot open, so I’d bet on Charlotte and Orlando adding one more two-way player in the coming days.

The Pistons also have an open spot on their 15-man roster and it’s perhaps no coincidence that they’re also the only team in the NBA with cap room still available. Carrying a 15th man, even one on a non-guaranteed contract, would slowly eat into that cap room, which is a scenario they probably want to avoid in order to maximize their ability to accommodate salary-dump trades during the season.

The Knicks are facing one of the NBA’s most restrictive hard cap situations, with just $3.58MM in wiggle room below that second-apron threshold, which they can’t surpass at any point during the 2024/25 season. They can’t even carry two more minimum-salary veterans, so the expectation is that they’ll sign a veteran to a minimum deal and promote a two-way rookie to the standard roster — Ariel Hukporti is the top candidate, and would count against the cap for the rookie minimum ($1,157,153) instead of the veteran minimum ($2,087,519), allowing the Knicks to remain below the hard cap.

The Knicks are permitted to carry just 12 players on standard contracts for up to 14 days at a time and for up to 28 total days during the regular season. It looks like they’ll probably use those first 14 days during the season’s first two weeks, meaning they won’t have to add 13th and 14th men until the first week of November.


Teams that still have moves to make before Monday’s deadline

Only one NBA team has yet to make the necessary cuts to get within the regular season roster limits:

Minnesota Timberwolves: 16 players on standard contracts and three on two-way deals.

As a result of the Karl-Anthony Towns trade, the Timberwolves are carrying 15 players on fully guaranteed contracts and one (PJ Dozier) on a partially guaranteed deal. Dozier is assured of receiving at least $1MM of his minimum-salary contract, which counts on Minnesota’s books for about $2.09MM.

It sounds as if the Wolves would like to keep Dozier, which will likely make veteran forward Keita Bates-Diop the odd man out. Bates-Diop was a throw-in the Towns trade and wasn’t at practice on Saturday.

If they waive Bates-Diop, Minnesota will be on the hook for his full $2,654,644 guaranteed salary, along with the accompanying tax penalties, so the front office may continue to explore the trade market to try to find a taker for him (or a separate deal) in order to avoid that scenario. The Wolves will have to get down to 15 players on standard contracts and finalize their regular season roster by 4:00 pm Central time on Monday.


Reported Exhibit 10 signings that never materialized

A couple weeks ago, we checked in on the reported Exhibit 10 deals that had yet to be finalized, noting that most of them would still become official before opening night.

As expected, that was indeed the case. Of the 11 players we highlighted, nine ultimately signed Exhibit 10 contracts as reported and were subsequently waived. A tenth player, Boo Buie, didn’t complete his anticipated deal with the Suns, but inked an Exhibit 10 contract with the Knicks instead.

That leaves just one reported Exhibit 10 agreement that wasn’t completed — former Missouri guard Sean East II never ended up signing with the Lakers.

East and the Lakers could still technically finalize that deal on Sunday or Monday, but that doesn’t seem likely, since the team would take on a cap charge by signing and waiving East this late in the offseason. With just $45K in breathing room below the second tax apron, the Lakers are unlikely to be so cavalier about making even a small addition to their team salary.


Hoops Rumors’ roster resources

We consistently maintain and update a number of lists and trackers that are designed to help you keep tabs on NBA rosters. They’re all up to date following Saturday’s cuts.

Those resources, which can be found on the right-hand sidebar of our desktop site or on the “Features” page within our mobile menu, include the following:

Why Most Teams Will Finalize Roster Cuts On Saturday

NBA teams have until Monday night (Oct. 21) to officially set their rosters for the 2024/25 regular season. However, a majority of NBA teams will likely have their rosters ready to go on Saturday, with far more roster cuts expected today and tomorrow than on Sunday or Monday.

Why is that? Well, releasing a player on Saturday will ensure he clears waivers on Monday, before the regular season gets underway.

Players who are cut during the season are also paid for each day they spend on waivers, so a player who hits waivers on Sunday and doesn’t clear until the first day of the season on Tuesday would technically earn one day’s worth of pay, even if his contract isn’t guaranteed. A player released on Monday would spend two regular season days on waivers.

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For players with partial or full guarantees, spending the first day or two of the regular season on waivers doesn’t really matter, since they’re getting their full 2024/25 salary (or their partial guarantees) no matter when they’re released. But if a team waits until Monday to cut a player with a non-guaranteed salary, that team will be on the hook for two days’ worth of dead money for the player.

Two days’ worth of dead money won’t exactly break the bank — it would range from about $13K to $38K for a minimum-salary player. Still, most teams already know which players are in and which are out, so there’s no need to take the decision down to the wire on Monday. They’ll make those cuts sooner rather than later to avoid adding extra cap charges to their books for ’24/25. Even that small amount of savings could be important for teams who are right around the tax line or up against a hard cap.

While many teams will make their cuts on Saturday, a handful of clubs can afford to wait an extra day or two if they want to, since they’ll be waiving (or trading) players who have full or partial guarantees.

The Timberwolves, for instance, have 15 players on fully guaranteed contracts, plus PJ Dozier on a partially guaranteed contract, so unless they can find a trade involving one of those 16 players, they’ll need to waive one of them. Waiting until Sunday or Monday to make that cut won’t affect their cap outlook at all, since everyone is assured of receiving his full-season salary either way (except Dozier, who is assured of earning at least his $1MM partial guarantee).

Additionally, teams whose final roster moves won’t involve placing a player on waivers can afford to wait until Monday to complete those moves.

For example, the Magic currently have 15 players on guaranteed standard contracts, one on a two-way contract, and five on Exhibit 10 deals. While we don’t know exactly what the team’s plan is, Orlando could cut three of those Exhibit 10 players today, then convert the other two to two-way contracts on Monday in order to set its roster for the regular season.

NBA Free Agents Who Signed With International Teams

With dozens of new players entering the NBA every season as part of that year’s rookie class, there aren’t enough roster spots to go around for all of the veterans who become free agents in a given offseason.

Some of those vets left on the outside looking in will retire. But many of the NBA’s job-seeking free agents wind up accepting opportunities in other parts of the world, signing with a team that competes in one of the many professional basketball leagues in Europe, Asia, Australia, or South America.

Listed below are the players who finished last season on an NBA roster and have since signed contracts overseas with non-NBA (and non-G-League) clubs.

Since this list is focused exclusively on players who finished the 2023/24 season under contract with an NBA team, there are some notable names who made the move overseas in recent months but aren’t included. For instance, Furkan Korkmaz spent six-and-a-half seasons in the league before being waived by the Pacers in February. He didn’t find work in the NBA for the remainder of the ’23/24 campaign, then opted to join AS Monaco this offseason.

Here are the 2024 NBA free agents who signed with international clubs this offseason, listed alongside the NBA team with whom they finished last season:


Australia

Belgium

China

France

Greece

Israel

Italy

Japan

Montenegro

Russia

Serbia

Spain

Turkey

United Arab Emirates

Reported Camp Deals That Still Aren’t Official

As we noted when we passed along word earlier today that the Pistons have officially signed Aaron Estrada to an Exhibit 10 contract, that signing was initially reported months earlier — 101 days ago, to be specific.

That’s not an uncommon pattern during the offseason, especially if an agreement between a team and a player is an Exhibit 10 deal primarily designed to secure the player’s G League rights and/or to ensure he’ll receive a bonus by spending at least 60 days with the club’s NBAGL affiliate. The two sides could agree to terms relatively early in the offseason but be in no rush to officially complete that deal until the fall.

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That’s likely what’s happening with Estrada. If the Pistons intended to have him vie for a spot on their 18-man regular season roster, they probably would’ve brought him to training camp last week and given him every opportunity to compete in those practices and scrimmages. So his deal is presumably more about his G League rights and his Exhibit 10 bonus.

Estrada won’t be the last Exhibit 10 recipient to join an NBA team this fall. Those signings will continue all the way up until October 19, which is the last day that a player on a non-guaranteed contract can be waived without counting against a team’s salary cap for the 2024/25 season.

With that in mind, here are several of the non-guaranteed training camp contracts reported over the course of the offseason that have not yet been finalized but still could be completed within the next couple weeks:

It’s entirely possible that one or more of these deals was reported erroneously or has since fallen through. That usually happens at least a handful of times every year.

But in all likelihood, most or all of these signings will still be completed by October 19. We haven’t seen any reporting indicating they’ll no longer happen. And in some cases, the teams’ G League affiliates have acquired the returning rights for these players, signaling that those players remain very much in those teams’ plans.

We’ll be keeping an eye out in the coming days and weeks to see if these moves are announced by teams or if they show up in the NBA’s transaction logs. If they don’t happen before opening night, it’s safe to assume they’re not going to get done after all.

Community Shootaround: Knicks’ Blockbuster Deals

No team made more noise than the Knicks this offseason.

They could have been content to re-sign top free agent OG Anunoby and basically run it back with the same core that carried them to the Eastern Conference semifinals. They were decimated by injuries as the playoffs wore on but still took the Pacers to the limit in their series.

New York did indeed lock up Anunoby, though the price tag was a whopping $212.5MM for five years (including a player option). The Knicks lost another key free agent in Isaiah Hartenstein.

Around the same time, they pulled off what seemed like the biggest shocker of the offseason, agreeing to give up five future first-round picks, among other assets, for Nets forward Mikal Bridges.

Jalen Brunson soon did the Knicks a favor by signing a $156.5MM extension, rather than waiting until next offseason when he could have gotten an even bigger payday.

As training camp approached, the biggest question seemed to be whether Julius Randle would play more at center until Mitchell Robinson returned from left foot surgery. Seemingly out of nowhere, the Knicks pulled off another blockbuster, sending Randle and Donte DiVincenzo to the Timberwolves as part of a package for Karl-Anthony Towns. New York also surrendered another first-round pick and two second-rounders as part of the three-team deal.

Towns’ $220MM super-max extension kicks in this season, weighing down the Knicks’ long-term cap sheet. He’s undeniably one of the most talented and accomplished big men in the league. However, he has been affected by a variety of injuries since 2019, so the Knicks are taking on a huge gamble that he stays healthy and productive in the postseason.

Overall, New York’s starting unit is formidable with Towns, Josh Hart, Anunoby, Bridges and Brunson. Their offense is much more versatile with the additions of Towns and Bridges, though their three-point shooting could take a hit with the loss of DiVincenzo.

There appears to be enough backcourt depth with the likes of Miles McBride, Cameron Payne, Tyler Kolek and Landry Shamet. The frontcourt depth has been depleted by the flurry of moves and that could be an ongoing concern.

That brings up to today’s topic: Do you think the Knicks’ offseason acquistions of Bridges and Towns can deliver a championship to New York? Or will they fall short of that goal and ultimately regret going all-in and mortgaging their future?

Please take to the comments section to weigh on this topic. We look forward to your input.

Oldest, Youngest Players On NBA Rosters For 2024/25

For a second straight fall, Lakers star LeBron James will enter the NBA season as the league’s oldest player.

James will turn 40 before the calendar year is over, making him the only active NBA player in his 40s — and the first one since longtime Heat big man Udonis Haslem retired a year ago.

It’s an impressive feat, given the high level James is still performing at. Most of the other names on our list of the 10 oldest players on NBA training camp rosters are role players at this stage of their careers. A handful of them will spend much of their time this season sitting on their respective teams’ benches and providing “veteran leadership.” LeBron is the only one still supplying star-level production.

While this group doesn’t feature a ton of star power beyond James, that could change in the not-too-distant future — Stephen Curry and Kevin Durant are among the NBA players born in 1988 who could find their way onto this list in the next year or two as some older vets call it a career.

It’s also worth noting that this list is subject to change. Maybe a veteran like Wesley Matthews finds a new NBA home by opening night. Maybe one of these players will be cut in the coming weeks — I wouldn’t expect that to happen, but it’s worth noting that a couple of the veterans listed below don’t have fully guaranteed salaries.

For now, here’s the list of the oldest players in the league heading into the 2024/25 NBA season:

  1. LeBron James, Lakers (born 12/30/1984)
  2. P.J. Tucker, Clippers (born 5/5/1985)
  3. Chris Paul, Spurs (born 5/6/1985)
  4. Taj Gibson, Hornets (born 6/24/1985) *
  5. Kyle Lowry, Sixers (born 3/25/1986)
  6. Garrett Temple, Raptors (born 5/8/1986)
  7. Al Horford, Celtics (born 6/3/1986)
  8. Jeff Green, Rockets (born 8/28/1986)
  9. James Johnson, Pacers (born 2/20/1987) *
  10. Joe Ingles, Timberwolves (born 10/2/1987)

Note: Players marked with an asterisk (*) are on partially guaranteed contracts.


On the opposite end of the spectrum, nine of this year’s 10 youngest NBA players were selected in the 2024 draft, while the 10th was an undrafted free agent.

The Wizards and Clippers each have two players on this list. That’s not a shock for a Washington team that’s in the midst of a thorough rebuild and is willing to be patient as it looks to develop long-term cornerstones. It’s a little more surprising for a Clippers team that has been one of the league’s oldest in recent years, but it’s perhaps a signal of the club’s changing priorities following the offseason loss of Paul George.

Here are the 10 youngest players currently on NBA rosters:

  1. Ulrich Chomche, Raptors (born 12/30/2005) *
  2. Tidjane Salaun, Hornets (born 8/10/2005)
    Nikola Topic, Thunder (born 8/10/2005)
  3. Pacome Dadiet, Knicks (born 7/27/2005)
  4. Cam Christie, Clippers (born 7/24/2005)
  5. Carlton Carrington, Wizards (born 7/21/2005)
  6. Ron Holland, Pistons (born 7/7/2005)
  7. Alex Sarr, Wizards (born 4/26/2005)
  8. Zaccharie Risacher, Hawks (born 4/8/2005)
  9. Trentyn Flowers, Clippers (born 3/8/2005) *

Note: Players marked with an asterisk (*) are on two-way contracts.

Only 11 players currently on NBA rosters were born in 2005 — the 11th is Timberwolves guard Rob Dillingham, whose birthday is January 4.

That means last year’s youngest player, Grizzlies forward GG Jackson, just narrowly missed making the cut for a second straight year. He won’t turn 20 until December 17.

NBA Roster, Contract Deadlines To Watch In October

After a couple quiet months around the NBA, October is full of important deadlines for roster and contract decisions. Here’s our round-up of the dates to keep an eye on this month:


Regular season roster decisions

The 2024/25 regular season tips off on Tuesday, October 22, which means teams must set their rosters for the season by 4:00 pm Central time on Monday, October 21. To be in accordance with regular season roster limits, a team must be carrying no more than 15 players on standard contracts and three on two-way deals.

While teams have until Oct. 23 to set their their regular season rosters, many clubs will make their final cuts on or before Saturday, October 19. That’s the final day that a team can waive a player on a non-guaranteed contract and avoid paying any of his salary.

[RELATED: 2024/25 Non-Guaranteed Contracts By Team]

Because a player gets paid for the time he spends on waivers, a player who is cut on Monday, Oct. 21 wouldn’t clear waivers until Wednesday, Oct. 23, the second day of the regular season. That means that even if his contract is non-guaranteed, he’d earn two days’ worth of his salary.

Teams who intend to waive players with partially or fully guaranteed salaries are in better position to wait until the Monday before the regular season begins. For instance, if the Pacers decide to cut James Johnson, who has a $750K partial guarantee, it wouldn’t matter if they do so on October 19 or 21 — he’d receive his $750K either way.

However, if the Pacers want to waive Cole Swider, whose salary is entirely non-guaranteed, they’d likely do so on the Saturday. Waiting until the Monday would mean paying him $23,994 (2/174ths of his $2,087,519 salary).

Two-way contract conversions

A player on an Exhibit 10 contract can have his deal converted into a two-way contract, but only up until Monday, October 21, the day before the regular season begins.

If a player on an Exhibit 10 contract remains on his team’s roster through that Monday without being converted to a two-way, his Exhibit 10 deal would become a standard non-guaranteed contract.

Since most players on Exhibit 10 contracts will be waived on or before October 19, it’s worth keeping tabs on which of them hang onto their roster spots through that Saturday — those players will be good bets to have their deals converted into two-ways or perhaps even to claim a 15-man roster spot.

Contract extensions

The deadline for a player to sign a rookie scale extension is Monday, October 21 at 5:00 pm Central time.

As of today, four of the 24 players who were eligible for a rookie scale extension entering the offseason have signed one, leaving 20 players who still may be seeking new deals that would keep them off the 2024 free agent market.

Rockets center Alperen Sengun, Pelicans wing Trey Murphy, Hawks forward Jalen Johnson, and Warriors forward Jonathan Kuminga are a few of the notable rookie scale extension candidates to keep an eye on in the coming weeks.

It’s a safe bet that several players eligible for rookie scale extensions will sign them — in each of the past four offseasons (2020 through 2023), at least 10 players have done so, with a record-setting 14 rookie scale extensions signed a year ago.

As for veteran extension candidates, a player who is extension-eligible and who is in the final year of his current contract can sign an extension at any time before or after the regular season begins, all the way up until June 30, 2025.

However, a player who is eligible for a veteran extension but who is not in a contract year will only be eligible to sign a new deal up until Monday, October 21.

For instance, Pelicans forward Brandon Ingram will remain eligible to sign a veteran extension even after the regular season begins, since he’s in the last year of his current contract. But Suns forward Kevin Durant, who has two guaranteed years left, can only sign an extension up until Oct. 21. After that, he’ll become ineligible to sign a new deal until next summer.

An extension-eligible veteran who holds an option for 2025/26 will remain extension-eligible after the season begins as long as his option is declined as part of any extension agreement, with his new contract beginning in ’25/26. A player like Nuggets forward Aaron Gordon would fit this bill.

Salary guarantee dates

The league-wide salary guarantee date to watch is January 7, 2025. A player on a non-guaranteed contract who isn’t waived by that date and doesn’t clear waivers before January 10 will have his 2024/25 salary become fully guaranteed.

However, certain players have contracts that call for them to receive partial or full guarantees at the start of the regular season. Our list of early salary guarantee dates shows which players fall into that boat on Tuesday, October 22, including Raptors center Bruno Fernando and Trail Blazers guard Dalano Banton, among others.

Rookie scale team option decisions

A team that wants to exercise its 2025/26 third- or fourth-year option on a player on a rookie contract must do so on or before Tuesday, October 31.

As our tracker shows, the Bulls and Heat have already made their option decisions, while the Celtics, Cavaliers, Timberwolves, Knicks, Sixers, and Suns don’t have any to make. But the NBA’s other 22 teams will have to pick up or turn down those rookie scale team options for ’25/26 in the coming weeks.

A team that retains a player without exercising his 2025/26 option would put that player on track for unrestricted free agency next offseason. At that point, his team wouldn’t be able to offer him a salary higher than what his option would have been worth, though rival suitors could offer him more than that.