The Timberwolves and Knicks are close to completing a blockbuster deal that will send Karl-Anthony Towns to New York.
The Knicks’ package will center around Julius Randle and Donte DiVincenzo, according to The Athletic’s Shams Charania and Jon Krawczynski. Krawczynski adds (via Twitter) that Keita Bates-Diop is headed from New York to Minnesota too.
Minnesota is also receiving the first-round pick that the Pistons owe the Knicks, according to Steve Popper of Newsday (Twitter link). That first-rounder is for 2025, but is top-13 protected. If it lands in its protected range, it would roll over to 2026 (top-11 protected) and 2027 (top-nine protected) before turning into a ’27 second-round pick.
The Knicks are sending DaQuan Jeffries and draft compensation to the Hornets to help facilitate the deal, Charania adds (Twitter link). Charlotte will also acquire cash from New York, per Roderick Boone of The Charlotte Observer.
Jeffries’ new contract is expected to start around $3MM, tweets Ian Begley of SNY.tv. It will have to cover three seasons, but only the first must be guaranteed.
The parties are still working through the details, as the Knicks will need to more salary to make the trade legal, but talks intensified over the last 24 hours, ESPN’s Bobby Marks tweets. It’s a stunning turn of events right before the start of training camp. New York was already involved in a major deal this offseason, trading for the Nets’ Mikal Bridges.
The addition of Towns would give the Knicks more flexibility with their lineup but would come at a large long-term cost in terms of payroll. Towns’ monster four-year, $220MM super-max extension kicks in this season. He’s due to make $49,205,800 this season and his salary escalates over the life of the contract.
Randle has a $28,939,680 salary this season and holds a $30.9MM player option next offseason. DiVincenzo is in the second year of a four-year, $46.87MM contract, including a $11,445,000 salary this season.
Neither the Knicks nor the Timberwolves can take back more money than they send out, since both teams are operating above the $178.1MM first tax apron, cap expert Yossi Gozlan points out (Twitter link). The Wolves are currently over the second apron as well.
Randle also has a trade bonus worth $4.1MM that will be triggered as a result of the deal, according to Gozlan (Twitter link). Trade kickers can be waived partially or entirely to help accommodate a move, though there’s been no indication yet that the forward will do so.
Long-term salary cap implications would certainly factor into Minnesota’s decision, if the deal goes through. Moving off of Towns’ pricey contract will help the Wolves keep the rest of their core together and eventually extend key frontcourt pieces like Rudy Gobert and Naz Reid during a tumultuous time for team ownership. Towns has also suffered a number of injuries during his career, which could also be a factor in the Timberwolves’ thinking.
Towns will give the Knicks a dynamic frontcourt scoring option to complement All-Star guard Jalen Brunson. He could also fill the center spot, which is in flux with Mitchell Robinson sidelined by injury and Isaiah Hartenstein signing as a free agent with Oklahoma City, and slide over to the power forward position at times when Robinson returns. A league source tells Stefan Bondy of The New York Post (Twitter link) that the club views Towns as an ideal complement to its core of Brunson, Bridges, and OG Anunoby.
As Charania and Krawczynski write, Towns grew up as a Knicks fan near New York City and had long been on the team’s radar. The four-time All-Star is also a client at CAA, the former agency of current Knicks president of basketball operations Leon Rose. The Knicks contacted the Wolves about Towns repeatedly over the last two years, sources tell The Athletic, and “stepped up” their pursuit in recent days, tweets Chris Hine of The Star Tribune.
Still, Towns – who had been in Minnesota since being drafted first overall by the team in 2015, had been fiercely loyal to the Wolves over the year, sticking with the team through some challenging years and repeatedly professing a desire to remain with the organization for his entire career. He was “stunned” by the news of the trade, a source tells The Athletic.
It’s also worth noting that Towns and Knicks head coach Tom Thibodeau had a somewhat strained relationship during their overlap in Minnesota from 2016-19, though Krawczynski says Towns has moved past that and holds “no ill feelings” toward Thibodeau.
Randle will replace Towns as the Timberwolves’ power forward, though Reid – a better long-distance shooter than Randle and a good fit next to Gobert – also figures to play a key role in filling the hole created by Towns’ departure.
Sources tell Ramona Shelburne of ESPN (Twitter link) that the Knicks and Randle – who spent the offseason recovering from shoulder surgery – hadn’t made any progress in contract extension negotiations, which made the club more inclined to move him. The Pistons, Hawks and Heat are among the other teams the Knicks talked to regarding potential Randle trades, Begley tweets.
DiVincenzo will provide Minnesota with a solid three-point shooting wing. He’s coming off a career year in which he averaged 15.1 points per game.
As Jake Fischer tweets, the Timberwolves targeted DiVincenzo when he was a free agent in 2023 and he reciprocated their interest at the time before choosing the Knicks. DiVincenzo’s inclusion in the deal was a sticking point for the Wolves, who became “very intrigued” once the Knicks were willing to put him on the table, says Begley (Twitter link).
According to Krawczynski, the Wolves believe the added flexibility the trade provides will put them in a better position to contend in the long-term and maximize Anthony Edwards‘ window.
Luke Adams contributed to this story.
WHAT?!?
They go from being one of the best teams into a middle of the pack clown show typically Wolves move good luck in the lottery some people and owners should just be removed from the league if this how they won’t to act
Alex Rodriquez told you he was going to cut payroll
Are you serious? They have a three-and-D wing and a strong PF who can actually play with Gobert. The Knicks got the C they need and one that fits well with their run-and-gun lineup. On paper, it’s a win for both teams, though the Knicks need to solidify some of their depth.
Knicks are going all-in at this point now.
I mean I kinda hate this trade for both teams. The Wolves need more shooting not less around Gobert/Mcdaniels. MIN will have zero spacing in a starting 5 of Conley/Ant/Gobert/Randal/Mcdaniels. Also that pick will never convey until its seconds.
Thibs likes defense and rebounding and he is going to f***ing hate KAT. He will also probably over play him till hes hurt again.
Just major lose lose here…
No spacing other than a lights out .442 on 5.3 for Conley and a respectable .357 on 6.7 from ANT.
Yeah 2 shooters isnt spacing man. Most teams want 4 shooters on the floor at almost all times now days. You go down to 3 when the super defensive units are out, and try for 5 whenever you can.
Ant was complaining about no room in the lanes before and that was with KAT one of the best shooting bigs out there instead of Randle whos sometimes at 31%.
Teams will just pack the paint since the guys initiating the offense who would be the drive and kick players are the only 2 shooters you have to guard past 20 feet.
The team that just beat the Wolves in the WCF had one great shooter and one good shooter in the starting lineup and both of those guys initiated the offense for Dallas.
Part of the reason they went so far was DJJ was shooting way better than he used to and PJ was striping them in the playoffs so that it was really only 1 non shooter. They also play spread floor and have one of the absolute best double team draw and kick players ever.
Chapman, dead-on. You hit on all the problems, especially on how it hurts Ant. Ultimately, Ant is a slasher, not a shooter.
Hes so strong going downhill, but he needs a lane any lane to drive in, and with a Gobert size rock in the paint already he aint driving anywhere
Thibs already coached KAT…I am sure he approves the trade if does go down
With this team he has had defense first rim protecting O board big men and never plays without one. KAT is none of those things, and is super foul prone when he is the center.
Do you really feel if Thibs didn’t want Kat they would have listened to him?
Maybe. Also he wouldnt be the first coach that saw a shiny toy and thought he could make it work only to put it down after 5 min and getting over it
I agree. It looks good on paper but KATs game will not age well. Donte doesn’t deserve this. This was gonna be a magical Villanova reunion. I would not do this
Yeah Donte didn’t deserve this i hope the deal falls through
Now if the knicks 4 starters are Brunson, bridges, og, and KAT, who’s the 5th guy? Precious? McBride?
Could be Hart. More D and Reb from him to complement the other D as Brunson and Towns do most of the scoring.
You are all nuts. Stop using your hearts and use your heads – this an absolute highway robbery by the Knicks. A top 5 big man – yes w some injuries for two above average role players – one of whom is hurt all the time. I get that NY lives Vinnie but the NBA is a business and they go from a nice team with no chance to win a championship to a legit contender.
An average player that finished 8th in MVP voting a couple of years ago and averaged 24 ppg last year and in prior years. Yup, average.
KAT is a top 5 big man?
I guess you could argue he is now a top 5 Big man in the East… I guess.
KAT is often hurt, plays more like a 3 than a 4 or 5. Plays below average Defense and cannot hold down the paint without substantial help.
I really don’t care about DV and Randle, but they at least play D.
The fact that Minney is willing to move KAT should scare the crap out of the Knicks. Minney is probably happy to get DV and Randle for KAT. Ask yourself…if your analysis is accurate, why would Minney trade KAT? According to you u he is a top 5 big in the game, would you trade a top 5 big in the game? Nope…
Personally I cannot wait for Embiid to start eating him up and messing with him, but yeah, I guess the Knicks win the trade if your logic is anywhere near accurate.
If Randle can play defense he has yet to show it in the 10 seasons he’s played in the NBA. Towns has actually been a decent defender since the Gobert trade but old narratives are hard for casual fans to look past.
He is still the same defender he just is better as a 4 with a 7’2″ rim protecting 5. KAT at 5 equals foul trouble and backup 5 min
Randle is not a good defensive player. Not sure where you’re getting that he plays good defense. The fact that Minnesota is willing to move KAT doesn’t necessarily have to be something that scares the Knicks. Have you considered perhaps they might be wrong? And the Knicks have several great defenders so there will be a lot of switching off.
I do wonder why Minnesota traded KAT, he was their face of the franchise (well before ant…) and was about to go to year 10 with them
Sure I can see how the twin towers didn’t work out in Minnesota but wouldn’t they rather have traded gobert? And gobert would’ve been a better fit in NY…
For salary reasons
Minny moved him because they have zero flex and he would get the biggest return. They’re committed to AE and Gobert is certainly not going to bring back a Towns haul nor do they need KAT competing with AE on shots.
A top 5 big man? Besides perimeter shooting, what exactly is KAT a top 5 big man in?
Causing offensive fouls flailing into the lane and then whining at the refs about not getting calls when hes just out of control while the other team score 4 on 5
Hart
I’ll take the Knicks.
We thinking any other players or picks involved?
Randle DV and Detroit’s 1st
+8M in salary so McBride DaQuan and at least one more. Everyone but MB is either over 11M or under 3M and they need close to 9M more outgoing.
Everyone always trying to include McBride in trades. Trading DeVincenzo they are going to need McBride for depth. No way I could see him being part of this trade.
Hart just extended and cant be traded so find me 9M on the roster without sending out McB 4.2
Tell me why nobody’s floating Miles McBride as part of this trade then?
Just look at the Knicks payroll sheet man there are only a couple ways it can go. They also cant trade some like Payne because he just signed so its Sims McB Dequan. They cant send out less than they take back so 9M more…
This will answer it for you:
Yossi Gozlan
@YossiGozlan
It sounds like the New York Knicks will make up the rest of $8.8 million outgoing salary required by sign-and-trading free agents.
This would allow them to complete the deal without sending out an additional significant player under contract.
For example, including DaQuan Jeffries, along with Charlie Brown Jr. and Duane Washington Jr. on slightly above minimum salaries, and Keita Bates-Diop, works.
Any contract in a sign-and-trade must be for three years, but only the first needs to be guaranteed.
Assuming he can stay healthy, Makes the Knicks the team to beat in the East anyway.
The trade would make the Knicks better, but Boston is still the team to beat.
Well. Yeah.
No it doesnt, Celtics are
As a Pacers fan I love this trade. DiVencenzo was a killer and KAT is soft as Charmin.
Protected 1-13. Pistons will be making that pick.
Not if they land Cooper Flagg in next years draft.
It’s that very pick bro….2025 protected 1-13.
Reading comprehension is not a universal thing apparently lol
Protected 1-11 ’26 and 1-9 ’27 converts to a ’27 second after that
darinc – they said that about Cade too bud…
What’s going on
Wow that Nova boys team really lasted a long time…
One in one out
I hope the deal hits a snag, it will be fun to see the Nova crew play together again.
Going to miss Dante
Yeah he went loco in the playoffs…
*Donte
Dante and IHart were big for us but you basically traded them for Bridges and KAT it’s all or nothing this year I like the moves if KAT stays healthy…
I don’t blame the Knicks for making waves, but I worry these two players are kinda the same problem. Randle is disappointing and so is KAT, but if KAT is ever going to be “him”, then Thibs’ll do it. I’m more curious how losing Dante will be, but I guess they think Bridges softens that blow. Randle with Ant is intriguing….
KAT has a loooootttttt more future money than Randle. Also KAT anchoring a D has never worked…
NY media will destroy KAT if he continues the disappearing playoff acts. I get they advanced with Randle out but I think Randle is better all around.
Donte was huge though and losing him too
Bridges now Donte’s minutes were going to get cut a lot anyway.
You do realize that Thibs has already been his coach??
Kat isnt an answer for the knick.they need defensive center.donte is a very good bench.knick need him
Kat can play some 4 and the Knicks still have Robinson. Plus, with the wings the Knicks have, there is less of a need for a defensive anchor. And while Towns is certainly not that, he did improve somewhat on that end of the floor last season; how much of that was the Gobert effect is TBD.
Sheagoodbye : mitchell “made from glass” Robinson wont plays 50+games. Kat will plays at 5. I think they will put IHart at 4. I think better if knicks keep donte,give the wolves 1st. Add more center,defensive center.
IHart doesn’t play for the Knicks anymore….
Wrong
Tuck 2 : i hope im wrong,im not knicks fan, but i love thib. I hope knicks with thib can get the ring
I don’t think KAT is that much better than Randle…
He is tho
Knicks needed more spacing; Randle and Robinson was never going to cut it. And Randle’s next contract was coming up, so this buys long-term security. He has his flaws, but I understand the thinking.
He is
Nova Knicks lasted 2 months.
As a Celtics fan…please trade for Towns .
is there a more overrated and weak big in the nba?
Maybe Porzingis
Well played.
You think referring to the guy who just won a championship with the Celtics and when healthy was at an all star level…that is “well played.”
LOL Knick fans are freakin hilarious.
You beat Philly fan this year for top level myopia.
You go ahead and start Brunson, Hart, Bridges and KAT and tell me how it looks in April.
Well played. OMG you guys are foolish.
18 brother. soon to be 19.
Celtics thank you for your teams impatience and poor strategy.
The Celtics we’re going to win a championship regardless of Porzingis. He barely even was a factor in the playoffs.
Porzingis was a major factor in game 1; he was their best player in limited minutes. He also made an important contribution in game 2.
Let’s not act like Boston could just subtract him from the roster and repeat.
Celtics did not miss a beat without Porzingis. They would’ve won a championship with or without him. In fact, they did win a championship without him.
I mean he was absolutely essential to winning 2 of the finals games. They still probably would have won but in the games he played healthy he gave them a huge boost
They won game one by 18 points. What exactly made him essential? He didn’t put up great numbers in game two. He barely played in game five. Absolutely not essential. If they had to rely on him more, they would’ve lost.
He was like 6 for 6 with great defense in the first quarter of game one when they blew the game and series open…
Yes, I’m sure that first quarter is what won them thr championship. Please listen to yourself.
Porzingis was on a team that won a championship. They didn’t win a championship because of him. You’re the fool if you’re thinking that a broken down Porzingis is going to be an asset going forward. He couldn’t even play in the playoffs. I’m sure he’ll age very well.
First of all Porzingis didn’t even play in most of those playoff games lolol and Towns is a perennial all star so what’s your point?
18
Ridiculous. And 10 posters liked KP as overrated? Wow!
He is great when healthy. He also has a bad body type for staying healthy and a long long long injury history already despite being younger. Would you be shocked if his career ends with and injury at age 31?
Kristaps Porziņģis comes to mind.
Of course he does, he just won a ring.
KAT is soft, soft, soft.
But go ahead and celebrate. It will be the only time this season.
Yeah, he won a ring thanks to his teammates.
KP was key all season long.
They could’ve got through the regular season without him though. It’s about the playoffs and the Celtics did not win a championship because of Porziņģis.
And they won in the playoffs without him.
That went to the WCF last year
yes and KAT was the reason they went that far? this is your argument?
KAT plays ZERO defense, in fact his is a problem bc he gets into foul trouble all the time.
He is SOFT, like baby S soft. He will not control any part of the paint because he hates playing in the paint.
KAT is also Embiids personal B. So yeah get him. Trade the guys who are tough and will play Defense.
Ask yourself why is Minnesota willing to do this deal. Bc they know KAT is soft.
You sound defensive. Or maybe scared…
You know, the Knicks also have the BEST defensive center in the league, when he’s healthy. See you in the playoffs.
You must not have watched the Denver series. KAT was the primary reason the Wolves won that series because of his D on Joker. He’s not an elite defender by any stretch of the imagination but he actually improved a lot this past year and started trying on that end.
Massive salaries and taxes aside, this will good for the KNICKS.
Randle’s injury last season showed that his iso/slow ball will be out of place in a Brunson-led offense …… KAT would be a better fit on the offense.
Randle posting up, while Ant free roams – that’s probably the scenario that Connelly is going for …… it can work IF Randle’s a willing passer.
That’s a big IF.
Kat is also injury prone and his defense is garbage. Have fun digesting that contract.
The Knicks are looking at his three-point shooting, and the additional spacing he provides.
Randall’s been a plus passer for years
I don’t get that statement
Good passer, but a terrible ball handler.
Knicks are killing it.
Brunson Bridges OG KAT and then either Hart or Robinson depending on match ups.
McBride Payne Shamet Morris Precious all for depth
Don’t hate it for Minny either.
Conley ANT McDaniels Randle Gobert
Dillingham DiVancenzo NAW Shannon Jr Ingles Reid and Garza
Not as fun an exciting but a very tough team.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they made another move or two just to even out the depth chart (little thin at the 4) but I like it
OMG Donte must have complained about being a bench player. This is not cool. JB must be pissed.
Bye bye KAT!! You won’t be missed I promise!
Enjoy Randle and his nonexistent 3 point shooting. Not to mention his horrible ball handling.
Ball handling? I don’t think Randle was brought in to be the point guard…
OK, so when you watch basketball, the only player who handles the ball is the point guard? Yeah OK.
you won’t miss your franchise player who stayed loyal while yall were the worst team in the NBA? Bonkers.
I would not do this deal… period. Donte is worth way more than his contract status. When he was a GSW he was such a presence. Especially when S hit the fan. He controls himself so well. If you want to off Randle then send him for draft picks and keep Donte. KAT is not the answer. If Robinson was healthy this deal doesn’t materialize. This feels more desperate than smart. Why?
Im 100% agree with u. Just keep donte.give minny 1st. Honestly,i think kat is not the answer too
The Timberwolves weren’t interested in this deal until DiVencenzo was added. This was reported by someone like Marks, I believe. So saying “Just keep Donte, give Minny a 1st” isn’t possible because Minny wouldn’t agree to that. They need the shooting if they’re going to move on from KAT.
KAT and Thibs together again…
That worked out sooooooo well last time…
If this goes through I’m gonna have sore ribs for weeks…
Can NY somehow trade for Jimmy Butler now?
Icing on the cake…
Go get Wiggins as well f8r some extra sprinkles…
Well so much for NY being a contender. Now they can compete for biggest train wreck. What a disappointment.
Well, if you say so, then it must be true…
I say so too. Knicks got worse. A lot worse. KAT is fools gold.
Well, if you say so then I know it’s not true.
Hopefully Knicks can include another team , or another player so DV can stay a Knick. He was huge for them , had a breakout season.
They can not match KATs 50M salary without him or heart and at least 3 of the young guys including McB
and I believe that Harts untradable because he just extended.
Everyone was saying the same thing with the nets trade and the Knicks were able to figure out how to include guys nobody were anticipating. I would not assume McBride being part of this trade. The Knicks like him a lot. Nobody is reporting him as being part of of this trade. And who are “three of the young guys” you’re referring to?
Dude was in Haliburtons head too in the playoffs. He will battle anyone anywhere. Miss DDV in GSW.
Really like this trade for Minnesota. They dump KAT and his weakness under pressure, whiny attitude and bloated contract. They get a sixth man in Donte and a better match at the 4 for their roster makeup with Julius.
Randle doesn’t have to be a veteran leader or a number one option, and he will absolutely thrive without those expectations. Randle has better handles, a better drive to the basket and better passing ability than KAT.
All that plus a first round pick is a steal.
NY front office executives overthought this one. KAT will have a hard time adjusting from the expectations of Minnesota to the harsh reality of MSG.
Randle can’t hit a three-pointer and he’s horrible at handling the ball. I’m quite sure this trade is not a steal for the Timberwolves. Also, that first round pick is heavily protected and may turn into two second round picks. There’s pluses and minuses for both sides.
Randle can bring the ball up and initiate offense. KAT can barely run. Yes KAT is a better distance shooter. And that’s literally it. Bridges will out rebound him on the Knicks.
Randle is a terrible ball handler. He can create his own shot, but he’s a terrible ball handler. And people can talk about KAT’s defense, but Randle is not a good defender either. And he insists on being the focal point of an offense when he is not good enough to be the number one on any contending team.
I agree with everything you said except the 1st round pick. It will end up being a 2nd round pick unless Detroit makes the playoffs pretty much.
Funny thing is if Brunson didn’t take that big discount I bet you this trade doesn’t go down. Knicks can more easily afford Towns’s long-term cap hit as a result.
WTF NOW THE KNICKS HAVE THEIR CENTER
TWOLVES SO CHEAP
It’s not really about being cheap, it’s about trying to stay flexible long term. That KAT contract was only going to give the Wolves one more shot. Now, DiVencenzo gives them badly needed shooting off the bench to go with Naz. The first unit will space less and the second unit will space more. The Wolves have to be banking on the hope that they won’t lose too much offensive efficiency with Randle and hoping to slightly increase their defensive efficiency with Randle.
Basically, I think they’re hoping KAT to Randle won’t be a huge loss and the second unit will drastically improve and be one of the best in the league.
I’m surprised the Knicks would trade Donte, as good as he was for them last season.
And KAT, I’m not sold on him. As a Dubs fan, I was glad they didn’t trade for him last year. I don’t think he would be able to keep up with or fit into their motion system.
apparently wolves aren’t keeping randle … any ideas ??
Maybe going to Miami or Atlanta ?
The Knicks have a stretch 5!
Gross, Randle sucks, move him immediately
I assume starting 5 is
Brunson
Og
Bridges
Towns
Robinson
Knicks really need to get their front court depth handled. Biggest need for the team especially relying on Towns and Robinson
Really limited options but wouldn’t hurt to bring in Yurtseven, Azubuike, Met into camp see what they got.
Ahahahahahaha this trade made both teams worse
At least you back your opinion up with some intelligent facts…
I’m a NBA fan online, laughing at other teams’ moves is always allowed.
We’re all laughing at you lol.
Sure, it’s allowed. Pointless, but allowed.
Chucktoad ,
Chapman’s take that “the pieces don’t fit” and that the Wolves now have a spacing problem is the media consensus.
KAT spread the floor, which helped Ant, but also helped with the problem that Rudy and McDaniels can only play inside. With Randall, the Wolves have 3 starters that can’t shoot and can only play inside.
Wolves’ opponents want Ant to shoot, not drive, and they play off him. His 3pt % is deceiving in that way.
This wasn’t a deal made to help Ant. The paint is going to be congested.
Don’t forget we also just resigned Marcus Morris he will provide some nice bench depth behind McBride Precious and Mitch if he isn’t the next out the door
This is a solid move for the Knicks. Love it. Local guy as well and doubt he’ll want to leave after getting a taste of the Mecca. Rose has done his job and did it well. Early vote for exec of the year as he built a team to compete, if not beat the Celtics. They can score. They can D up. The can shoot the three. They can run. They can play half court if necessary. They have three players that can pull 20 per, one at 15, and another pushing a triple double when he’s on the court. Bench lost some depth, but gained a critical position improvement and can put Robinson back on the bench as he comes off it with McBride, Prince, and perhaps Kolek now gets some minutes as that door potentially opens for him.
The wings can play D but interior defense is going to be a problem for the Knicks and they are still thin at center.
Once Robinson is healthy, I wonder how much he and Towns might be on the floor together. Robinson is a big part of the interior defense.
once Robinson comes back is more like if/when. Unfortunately he hasn’t been very durable. If the plan was to dump Randle the knicks should have done it before the trade and just kept Hartienstien.
Yes, we all know Robinson has injury issues but it’s not “if” he will come back. Of course he will come back. How many games he will play we can’t answer. As far as keeping Hartenstein, we all know they couldn’t do that because of the collective bargaining agreement. That had nothing to do with the Knicks.
again if they made the cap space they could have kept him or at the very least found a replacement that provided what he did for them. And it is an if he comes back and how effective will he actually be. regardless how many games he’ll play is an important question that can’t be swept under the rug
Knicks success on D has been outside of the paint more so than inside. Leads to their transition game as they hit the passing lanes and press on the perimeter.
Knicks just gave away heart and hustle, keys to playing for Thibs, for one of the top 5 babies in the league. Randle may have not fit the greatest but Donte did and at a minimum Randle left it all on the floor. Knicks finish 5-6 in the east, exist 1st round, Towns averages 15 and 6 in the playoffs and they look to deal him next offseason.
Divincenzo got blindsided. KAT better toughen up quick.
I like Divincenzo but the Twolves got fleeced here. Randle and Gobert together is awful spacing for Anthony Edwards.
Wolves already helped out the Warriors by not drafting Steph with 2 back to back picks, so…Randle for Wiggins is a match??
You’re not understanding. It had nothing to do with cap space. Because the Knicks only had Hartenstein’s partial bird rights and he hadn’t played with the Knicks long enough, they could only offer him 175% of what his salary was. There was literally no way they could bring him back regardless of anything. They could not outspend a team that was willing to offer more. That’s a moot point. And with Robinson, I don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of an “if.” It’s not a season ending injury. He’s going to come back. When Robinson plays, he plays well. Yeah, we can’t say how many games he’s going to play, but he has had seasons where he’s played, let’s not overstate the point.
I don’t see any positives for NYK in this trade. They need a solid hustler at 5 not KAT, he is so overrated. Trade KAT for Al Horford now.
Where’s Al and his expert Knicks commentary, this will be a top-2 team no doubt for him
It stings Losing Donte already. I had feeling the Knicks would not commit to Randle long term moving forward so I was prepared to lose him.
Just a cost-cutting maneuver, nothing else.
I wouldn’t particularly want either KAT or Randle. Especially not at the salaries they are being paid.
Good trade for both teams
What are you doing Atlanta? You can offer more than the Knicks can. I don’t like the Knicks trading Divincenzo.
Randle, McBride, Jeffries, Bates-Diop, Dadiet, Ariel with the draft rights to Rokas, Lessort and Vaulet with cash and future 1sts for KAT, Garza and Dozier
I honestly don’t like this trade for either team as it is right now
I didn’t like trading IQ either but Knicks survived. Divi can be replaced sort of like John Starks very streaky. Kat can take Divi’s 3’s.
Thibs is going to run KAT into the ground.
I think staying healthy for the stretch run will be the Knicks biggest challenge this year.
Most of you here do t really get ball. All you see is the negative.
KAT and Randle are all stars. Do you know what that means ………
I’m not a big KAT guy. Never have been. But I know he needs an awakening. This could be it. Thibs can help his weaknesses. And MSG will not accept mediocrity from KAT. Competition is what makes you better. KAT is from the area. He’ll be a contender for yrs here. Maybe now he can truly reach his peak. It’s about winning not stats.
Good comment and hope you’re right. I think regardless he’s exactly what they need to be able to compete with the Celtics. He will stretch the D and open up the floor for others. He will also go out and cover Porzingis and other bigs that Mitch won’t. I liked the team as constructed before trade but this has potential to put Knicks at the top.
Knicks are better. That’s all that matters. I’d rather pay KAT than Randle. I really believe Thibs will help KAT.
Wishful thinking. KAT has no post up game and is less aggressive than Julius on both ends. Knicks panicking over losing Randle for nothing, and it’s costing them Donte, and dooming themselves with a long term bad kat contract
They are now seriously ready to compete with Celtics and Bucks for conference championship. Will miss Randle toughness and Divi shooting but same thing was the case with IQ and to a lesser extent Barrett. Kat brings 50+ shooting 40+ from 3 and 87% from the line. Knicks got no scoring from bigs since Ewing. This will open up lane for Brunson. He also has played for Tibs so Tibs knows what he can do. Now have two big time offensive players (Brunson & Kat) and two big time defenders (OG & Bridges). Should be a fun team to watch
Let’s either hope the Pistons get a shot at the first pick and get Cooper Flag or make the playoffs and the pick is in the 20’s.. I was really hoping for the “trade rumor” of Isiah Stewart and a couple seconds for Mitchell Robinson and the first the Pistons owe the Knicks from who knows who.. it’s changed hands so many times. On paper it looks like out of the lottery
Mitch injury is what pushed this trade. Randle contract negotiations will not go well in NY. It’s really the best move. I doubt Minny resigns Randle.
Knicks still have a move to make with Mitch. Imagine him on Lakers. Plenty of teams can use Mitch. Look what Lively did in Dallas