The Warriors‘ worst loss of the season featured a historically bad performance from Stephen Curry and Draymond Green, writes Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPN. As Golden State fell to Memphis by 51 points Thursday night, Curry and Green were both scoreless from the field in the same game for the first time in their long careers as teammates. Curry was 0-of-7 while missing all six of his three-point attempts, while Green misfired on all four of his shots.
“First time for everything, right?” Curry said. “I never thought that would be a situation or a result of the game. From the very jump, they kind of punched us in the mouth. We didn’t have an answer. … That was kind of embarrassing.”
Coach Steve Kerr expressed the same sentiment after a night where nothing went right for the Warriors. Golden State trailed by 31 points at halftime and 46 when Kerr removed his starters for good midway through the third quarter. They allowed Memphis to set a franchise record by making 27 three-pointers and have now lost nine of their last 11 games after starting the season 12-3.
“You lose by 51. That’s humbling,” Kerr said. “So what I know about this team, this is the second time we’ve been blown out. We got blown out in Cleveland early in the season, so I know who we are. I know what our team is about. I know we’ve got competitors. I know we’re going to bounce back and we’re going to regroup, so I’m not concerned about that. But we’ve got a lot of work to do to execute.”
There’s more on the Warriors:
- There were some spacing issues with the offense as Dennis Schröder played his first game since being acquired from Brooklyn, observes Sam Gordon of The San Francisco Chronicle. Schröder, who was in the starting lineup as Kerr moved Jonathan Kuminga back to the bench, contributed five points and five assists in 22 minutes while shooting 2-of-12 from the floor. “It’s challenging (acclimating to Golden State) and I love that,” he said. “Coming to a new organization with great players, I want to see what they do first. Of course, I’ve got to play my game. But I still like to feel comfortable but it’s going to take a little bit of time.”
- Brandin Podziemski should benefit from the Schröder acquisition because his ball-handling duties will be reduced, Gordon adds in a separate story. Gordon notes that Podziemski’s numbers have declined from last season when he had more freedom to get open for shots. “He’s best when he’s on the weak side,” Kerr said, so that when “somebody else creates, the ball starts to move, now he’s cutting, putting it on the floor and making a play for somebody else. I think we’ll see more of that now that Dennis is here.”
- Scott Ostler of The San Francisco Chronicle contends that the Warriors were wise to trade for Schröder rather than continuing their fantasies about LeBron James or pursuing a more expensive option like Jimmy Butler.
kinda embarrassing? It was embarrassing. Curry you were 100% responsible with your poor play and lack of energy.
Steph just matched Kerr’s post-’22 title energy. Kerr has no spirit or fire in him anymore, he cant control Dray, he runs his rotations on stopwatch not game score/feel, Kerr is simply not the right guy for this job. He needs to retire, he’s cooked. Name anyone he has outcoached since the 2022 finals: file 404 not found, the whole league knows his idiotic small ball method is washed and knows how to destroy it.
What’s even MORE embarrassing is falling behind this version of the Lakers, even if it’s temporary. That’s kinda my unwritten gage/panic meter for this team, arc89 and Davey J: where the Dubs stand in comparison to the still-dumpster fire that is the 2024-25 Los Angeles Lakers. Hear me out on this: if the Warriors have the same or worse record than the Lakers by about….saayyy….the AFC-NFC Title games – and it’s a record that hovers around or below .500 – then I seriously want Dunleavy to blow the entire thing up…..I’m talking STEPH goes, DRAYMOND goes, DENNIS goes, JK and WIGGY likely go. Start anew and stockpile SO MANY damn 1st-round picks, and offer an eventual (young) mega free agent or two (in 2025, ‘26, beyond) the PHATTEST contract their lavish lifestyles could ever desire. Not kidding about this, you two! Dubs better get it together soon or MAJOR changes should be on the way.
They could lose all the games until the end of the season, Steph isnt going nowhere lol
Draymond should have been gone a long time ago
draymond is one of the main reasons they win. you don’t know basketball.
Draymond is no longer good
He was great a few years ago
Trade
prove it with statistics
@Chosen Dud
The Warriors have young players with actual trade value, the Lakers do not. They can and will likely just rebuild around Steph and Dray. You speak like no one wants Kuminga (22) or Podz (21) or Wiggins (solid contributor, #4 guy on a good team) or GP2 or Looney (expiring contracts). Lakers roster doesnt go this deep. Schroder, Buddy and Slomo are also all valuable in trades. Lakers roster does not go deep at all.
Also GSW are playing nonstop contenders who are on fire in December (aka potentially not top 4 teams at end of year, there’s lots of the year left).
I thought DS really stopped the ball and it was never finding Steph again. He also did absolutely nothing with it for him or others when he had it.
It was the lowest point in the Warriors’ last 12 years.
Not just the score, but the lack of energy and, above all, the lack of effort. (And, after 4 days rest.)
And, the post-game comments by the players indicated they don’t see a path forward at this time. And, the national media is crucifying Kerr and his “tiny ball”.
If I’m Lakob or Dunleavy, I’m not trading away youth or draft picks until this settles. This Minnesota game is a must win.
It was the ultimate make or miss game, but it felt like adding DS really threw everything out of whack. They shanked so many layups that just fell off the rim and just had trash airballs on good looks. It was the ultimate bad shooting night, while MEM made every screwball chuck it up BS shot the whole night. Mediocre shooters making one heat check after another.
Another example of how a few meh reffing calls in the first 5 min just screwed them. They go on tilt when the refs screw them again. Also opp 3pt % is the least defense dependent stat, but they have allowed 50 3PT in the last 2 games which is probably the most ever in 2 games by an NBA team allowed.
Chapman, respectully, and to other knowledgeable Dubs posters here, as well: we’re in denial. This was not about the other team getting lucky on 3’s or a few bad foul calls.
We lost by 50 points (mostly to 2nd and 3rd stringers), and we gave up (according to NBA League Pass) 35 uncontested 3’s (apparently a league record). By that measure, we defend the 3-point line worse than any team in the history of basketball. The NBA network played highlight film of Memphis taking ~10 wide-open 3’s with no Warrior within 10 feet – over, and over, and over.
There are clips of Steph and Draymond not running back on defense on multiple consecutive offensive plays in the first half .
The rest of the country isn’t getting their Warriors intel from Bob Fitzgerald. The Dubs gave up. There are videos of veteran players not running back on defense on multiple, consecutive plays in the first half.
Our 13-man experiment was supposed to be shelved, but it’s back. It costs us about 5-7 points per game (versus playing our best 10 players).
IMO
The only reason Warriors can’t win is Bob Fitzgerald
He is talking trash
I turned down the volume when Fritz is talking. He is the most annoying broadcaster.
Give Bob Fitzgerald credit for convincing so many Warriors fans that it’s a magical coincidence that opponents shoot the 3-pointer so well against the Warriors.
While Memphis was taking an NBA record number of uncontested 3’s lately, Bob, as always, announced his befuddlement at why the Warriors just couldn’t buy a break.
I mean factually opp 3pt% is the most luck based stat in the NBA and far less defense dependent. Most 3s are not well contested in general so good shooters will make them and bad shooters wont except when they play GSW…
They have had a tendency to mentally melt down when the refs seem biased against them dating back to the playoffs vs the Lakers a year and a half ago. They did it multiple times last season during the bad run of games where a couple bad no calls on Steph misses where he was for sure fouled, and a couple bad O fouls called the other way and the defense goes to s*** and they start chucking and running bad offense to try and get back in a tied game that theyre now down 14 in after 2 min of bad refs and bad decisions. They lost a ton of clutch games last year on buzzer beaters and bad luck that would have helped the record, but they lost a bunch during the stretch where they dug a hole in the standings by melting down in 3rd quarters when the shots and calls made them feel they werent having a fair game and were down 20 the whole 4th.
I do think they get a really bad road whistle and a road whistle at home… I mean it does get annoying when your guys are constantly getting hit with foul calls at home while Steph gets fouled the same way uncalled almost every possession.
Warriors shot more free throws than the Grizz man. Maybe this team is just average, like all outside the warrior fanbase have been saying. Golden State desperately need to bring some size in. Looney, Green and Trace Jackson @ the 5 is awful these days. Not a snowballs chance in hell in the west.
Loon got a foul with 12min on the clock in the first and in the first couple min Steph and someone else get fouled on drives while MEM got a couple cheap calls it was a bad couple min that led to them just losing their composure. All of a sudden theyre down 13-2 and another team starts 4-4 from 3. Like I get it why its hard after the last handful of games where the refs really did F them…
From what i saw of the game the Refs had nothing to do with how bad the warriors played. I expect calls on road games go in favor of the home team. Warriors get good whistles at home too. As long as they don’t call ticky tack fouls and let them play its all good.
So I thought Shcroder saved the Warriors season? A 51 point loss sure doesnt look like he is the savior that everyone was saying.
Hilarious to blame coaching when both your franchise legends go 0/11 and 2 pts and both put up -41 and -42 while on the court. Warriors are what they are, a decent team that will sneak into the playoffs and then stumble and bumble their way to a 1st round exit.
There’s plenty of blame to go around in a 50 point loss. But the criticisms of the coaching aren’t about a single game, but what people are seeing over the course of this season and last.
When are all of Dub Nation going to understand that Kerr is nowhere near an “elite” coach and is close to “very bad at his job”? Zero players fully developed in 10 years by him – Poole was GLeauge and Looney is still half-developed. Its LONG been time for a move by them to get rid of this infuriating loser who has no heart or fire in him anymore and seems to “ho hum” every time his idiotic small ball gets exploited? ANYONE is better than Kerr at HC right now, Kerr gotta go, HE is the problem!!!
Marty is on his 4th new name.
I love how repeating common things said by GSW fans on Instagram and Twitter means I am another poster who left here? Weirdo ish, please dont do stuff like this. My post is almost copy/pasted from IG comments by ACTUAL Warriors fans whom I agree with. What does it matter who is saying it, be it me or someone else? I dont know why your brain operates like this, I never post anything like this, I just post my takes and you get mad because I am right all the time and you arent.
You lost me at Twitter LOL
Mad ????? I could care less who or what you say Marty. Especially since we need 100 words to deny it. Marty
Who is “Marty? You sound insane bro, go drink some milk
Davey admits all his opinions are copied and pasted tweets. LMAO
And yet Kerr still has a better track record than you and your over-the-top proclamations of how good the Warriors were going to be. First the excuse was Melton going down—nice player but many teams deal with injuries and the Warriors supposedly had tremendous depth—and now it’s all on Kerr. Just face it; you were wrong. The rest of us always saw the Warriors in the range from, say, play-in to 5th seed. And they are playing exactly to expectations. The team just isn’t good enough as currently constructed.
If you watched the games, its crystal clear these losses are entirely on Kerr and is mismanagement. Kerr has always been not an elite HC, he gets owned by superior basketball minds every single game, and relies on Curry brilliance to bail him out, every year its the same. No one told Kerr Podz was “the future” and deserved playing time over Moody and Kuminga – that was all Steve.
Are you just defending Kerr here because you are argumentative? Do you have any skin in the game? Even the most homerfied Warriors fans know Steve has been a negative this whole time. Nothing he has ever done has helped the team win and everything he does hinders the team.
Curry misses his first 4 shots, but then makes 3 in a row…welp its the 6:00 min mark, time for him to come out! You understand all other NBA HCs dont think like this? They let him cook until the game is out of reach. Kerr pulls his on-fire rotations ALWAYS too early, and then loses because of it when the other teams HC does better work and gets his team back in via matchups.
If Kerr had 7 guys max to use he likely would have GSW top 4 right now. It takes talent to run a long lineup like this, he just proved he cant do it, but because I am passionately talking about my team you feel the need to argue—this is called “debatelording” nowdays and its what youre doing here. You dont care at all, just wanna argue, so its not about hoop chatter with you…go away now lil bro…
Also funny how you hate my “over-the-top proclamations” about how good they are, but also Im not allowed to criticize the same team? Gaslight, gaslight, gaslight.
See, this is “debatelording” over someone: you move the goalposts every damn time you get proven wrong and its always “im right/youre wrong” with you, but you dont know what youre talking about and just look like a argumentative freak.
If I make the posts, and all you ever do is reply instead of showing your own takes, then you are a coward plain and simple, and not worthy of respect. Go away lil bro…
Hey I thought Schroder was going to save Dub nations season? Hows it going so far?
Really gunna use a 1 game sample? You dont know ball.
Same goes to you, calling one trade a Season Saving Trade lmao
Clearly, you must have me confused with someone else in these boards or, perhaps, are auditioning for a role in the Trump administration. Either way, thank you for the laugh.
(I would make a more substantial rebuttal, but since you’ve forbidden me from doing so out of “debatelording” concern I’m afraid this is the best I can do).
Brother, you opened with the utterly insane “And yet Kerr still has a better track record than you and your over-the-top proclamations of how good the Warriors were going to be.”
Really? An NBA coach has a better record than me, but Im not allowed to criticize him that he’s washed up now? See how you move the goalposts? I will literally never win against your nonsense, because its nonsense. You literally compared me, Davey, with Kerr, like in real life. Lmao. What a weirdo. Stop doing stuff like this man, its straight up bizarre behavior…
You wanna talk about moving goalposts? You knew Kerr was the head coach coming into the season. And we’ve all known your dislike of him going back some time. Yet you STILL made proclamation after proclamation about how good the Warriors were going to be despite an obvious talent deficit, particularly if certain players didn’t develop as quickly as needed. If you knew he was so god awful, surely you should’ve factored that into your previous boasts and modified them accordingly? But you didn’t. Now, suddenly it’s “Well, the Warriors would’ve been as amazing as I said if Melton didn’t get hurt and Kerr wasn’t the head coach”. How many more excuses will there be instead of admitting the obvious?
Never said Kerr doesn’t deserve criticism; if that was your takeaway from that line then I apologize for that. But it doesn’t change the fact that laying ALL the blame at his feet is silly, as if this roster is one passable head coach away from being a top seed. FFS, they just lost by 50 and you want to throw Kerr under the bus. Great! Next time they’ll only lose by 40 instead. Problem solved.
Curry let him down 0/7 with 2 pts in 25 mins.
Curry and Draymond literally played the worst game of each of their careers, in the same game. Mind blowing.
If Steph and Dray both cook on the next game, anyone who called their careers over in this thread should be forced to delete their accounts. 1 game samples are meaningless in every way.
The same way this Trade cant be called season saving without a game being played yet.
Careers aren’t over silly Billy, just the title threat days.
Shea,
That’s well-put, agree on all points.
But, also, we now have to add a new issue: the coach doesn’t enjoy the respect and trust he did a few years ago. That is a huge loss.
True. And it is his job to reclaim that respect and trust, lest the season completely unravels. Kerr has to look in the mirror as much as the players do.
Think they’ll make the play in?
Imagine a team with size romps the little guys. Go figure.
Warriors don’t shoot well. And get crushed on boards. Recipe for a blowout ….
I don’t entirely agree with that, during their run from 2015-2022 they have always been outrebounded by other teams. The issue is that their getting older. and the league is getting better at identifying matchups against this team. They do not have the best catch and shoot guy on their team anymore either. It’s a combination of how quickly they all got old and how the league has adjusted and is no longer fearful of doubling Steph because the threat of Klay isn’t there. I’m not saying post 2019 Klay was great, but he still had his moments where you needed to play close on him and not sag because of the name and his reputation.
What do yrs have to do with this gm.
Al, team always had size against GSW they just CHOSE to play GSW game, now teams are playing their own games. Bully ball, harass Steph and double him and make others beat you is what I was getting at. The lack of size on that team will be their downfall. This isn’t 2014 anymore where the league didn’t adapt to their style of play.
I get so tired of reading the Warriors “lack size”. At one point, they had Wilt Chamberlain and Nate Thurmond in the front court. They didn’t win a championship. After Wilt left, and they traded Thurmond for a smaller guy, they won a Championship. So, size alone doesn’t do it.
Again did you watch the game.
Kerr hasn’t had size for yrs now.
All things go in cycles. Small ball was the Celtics answer. Then they drafted a rim protector.
Moving the ball was Knicks answer in 70s. Warriors only true small team was their last championship. Always had bigs before then. I agree the L has adapted better. But Kerr has tried go perimeter depth. So as to throw bodies at you. Warriors are old and not as talented. His offense is not going to work like it used to. And they can’t handle good big teams. You can’t teach size. Size will always matter in the NBA …… Any real NBA franchise knows this. Any real franchise will use all they can. You use all the tools. That’s why there are many. This game just shows how out of tune they are.
But I cant blame Kerr, right? The guy responsible for idiotically clinging to small ball?
You dont know ball lil bro
I agree with this. He is clinging to it. 15 man roster you can always carry a few bigs. Plus there are higs that can shoot ……. Clinging is the right word lol.
They had a big and it turned out to be Wiseman. They tried and his body failed on him. My point isnt what you think it is. You think the modern nba team is going to win with two bigs these days? Look at how far the wolves got last year lol. It’s a new era but some of us are still thinking the days of Duncan/Robinson are still alive and well.
You think Wiseman is the only big the Warriors have ever had on their roster? You are mistaken. Developing a big takes longer. Teams aren’t going to willing give up big men.
My name is Davey, if you arent going to use that I would appreciate at least calling me Dave or David, “Marty” isnt me and makes you look bad. I dont know who that is, and I dont see any of their posts around. Oh well, stop being weird, anytime, brother.
Sure Marty
I hear Walmart has a special on bigs this week. They are a dime a dozen.
You don’t target play in
Trade Draymond and Kuminga
Trade
kuminga should definitely be dangled but for who. Butler doesn’t really move the needle.
I think they just need to blow it up at this point. Steph just doesn’t have anyone who can help with the offense and anyone outside of Wiggs just aren’t reliable on offense.
I hate to say it as well, since Kerr is a great, championship coach but I’m not really sure about his development process. Maybe he has the same issues as Phil Jackson, only the ability to elevate the elite but unable to pull up anyone below, etc. Kerr tries to emulate Pop but Pop he def “ain’t” …
JK just seems to not fit into Kerr’s scheme, so something has to change. He really have Dray and Wiggs sitting ahead of him in both the PF/SF spot and having Dray at C will just make him wear down.
dezpoo, the Warriors will never “blow it up” because winning drives revenues, and multiple consecutive winning seasons means the price of ticket sales plummets.
The Warriors have a $9.1B valuation, making them the 2nd wealthies franchise in pro sports after the Dallas Cowboys. because they make (it’s true) almost double from fans than all other NBA teams. The big ticket franchises (Lakers, Knicks, Warriors, etc.) will never do a “rebuild” because multiple losing seasons dramatically reduces revenues and leads to season ticket attrition.
They intend to be competitive every season.
It was the lowest point in the Warriors’ last 12 years.
Not just the score, but the lack of energy and, above all, the lack of effort. (And, after 4 days rest.)
And, the post-game comments by the players indicated they don’t see a path forward at this time. And, the national media is crucifying Kerr and his “tiny ball”.
If I’m Lakob or Dunleavy, I’m not trading away youth or draft picks until this settles. This Minnesota game is a must win
There were “spacing issues with the offense” as Dennis Schröder played his first game-? They lost by 51 points. LOL. It wasn’t about spacing issues, it was about capitulation, and, unfortunately, that is becoming an option for a team that gets down by more than 20 or so. It’s a function of the rules of engagement, like Tanking in that regard.
Once a team capitulates, it’s the opponent that names the score. MEM doesn’t like GSW. In the MIN-NYK game last night, MIN capitulated early, and the NYK could have made a run at a 40-50 point win. I’ve watched more of these this year than ever.